(03-02-2015 11:07 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 11:04 PM)PirateJP Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 10:49 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 10:19 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 09:31 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  He is no project. He is just a freshman point guard. Take a look at Will Cummings freshman year at Temple.

Will Cummings played 6 mins. a game his freshman year because Dunphy almost never redshirts. 4 Star Tejada plays nearly 15 mins. a game.

Whatever the reasons. But the truth be told; Tejada freshmen numbers are better than Cummings were. Lebo doesn't start freshmen. Period. BJ Tyson is one of ECU's best players, but he doesn't start; because Lebo doesn't start freshmen (save Paris Campbell).

And people honestly think Bam Bam would want to come here, when this is the case.

Lebo started PRC as a freshman, so a guy would obviously have to come in and meet with Lebo's approval.

If I were Lebo, I let Bam Bam start from day 1. He is a 2-3 year player anyway. He is probably looking for the fastest way to make money as well like Skal going to Kentucky.

(03-02-2015 11:09 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 11:08 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  Are ECU and UCF fans hyping up their 200 RPI caliber teams. Better watch out AAC! ECU and UCF drop that RPI.

A Memphis fan talking and his team isn't much better than the two teams programs that he is criticizing.

We are still a top 100 team in RPI. You guys are about 135 spots behind us.

(03-02-2015 11:07 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 11:04 PM)PirateJP Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 10:49 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 10:19 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 09:31 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  He is no project. He is just a freshman point guard. Take a look at Will Cummings freshman year at Temple.

Will Cummings played 6 mins. a game his freshman year because Dunphy almost never redshirts. 4 Star Tejada plays nearly 15 mins. a game.

Whatever the reasons. But the truth be told; Tejada freshmen numbers are better than Cummings were. Lebo doesn't start freshmen. Period. BJ Tyson is one of ECU's best players, but he doesn't start; because Lebo doesn't start freshmen (save Paris Campbell).

And people honestly think Bam Bam would want to come here, when this is the case.

Lebo started PRC as a freshman, so a guy would obviously have to come in and meet with Lebo's approval.

If Lebo got a Frosh like a Derrick Rose you can bet your arse he would start. It depends on the talent and ability of the guys you can recruit.

(03-02-2015 10:46 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 09:49 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 09:31 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 06:35 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 04:24 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  I don't entirely disagree but that doesn't mean nearly as much in basketball. It doesn't mean **** that you beat Rutgers or VTech for a hoops recruit. I'd rather beat VCU, UMass, UTEP, WKU, etc. than some of the dregs of the Autonomy leagues.

FWIW, players on our roster right now...
Whisnant transferred here from FSU.
Caleb White had offers from VTech, UTEP and Richmond.
Lance Tejada had offers from Butler, UVA, FSU, TAMU, Bama, USF, etc.

Transferred but would be on the roster.
Brandon Stith had an offer from VCU. Unfortunately for us he left ECU to play for his dad at ODU.

2 things are missing from this list. BJ Tyson, our best player isn't listed. We've yet to get an AAC quality big man. Our guards are more than sufficient for this league.

No offense but Tejada seems like a huge project. The few minutes he played vs Tulsa left me entirely unimpressed.

He is no project. He is just a freshman point guard. Take a look at Will Cummings freshman year at Temple. It takes some guys time to get adjusted to the speed of the game and the grind of the season. The UCF freshmen guards play a lot of minutes, because UCF has no other choice but to play them. Lebo can actually bring Tejada along a little slower, because there is a senior point guard playing in front of him. ECU isn't going anywhere this year anyway, so why not let the kid develop slowly.

BJ Taylor is better than tejada right now, no question about it. He is pretty impressive for a true freshman point guard in my opinion. How he progresses this offseason is very important. Same goes for Adonys Henriquez as they are both our top two leading scorers.

How do you know? BJ Taylor and Henriquez wouldn't be starting for ECU either, because Lebo doesn't start freshmen. Neither one of those UCF guards is nearly as good as ECU freshman guard BJ Tyson and Tyson doesn't start for ECU. Tejada might end up being a star for all you or me know, but the only ECU freshman that consistently started for Lebo at ECU was Paris Roberts Campbell. He was the only guy. The rest of the freshmen have sat while Lebo has been coach.

Idk about Tyson being better. Their stats are virtually identical with each players having a slight edge in a few categories. Also BJ Taylor is a true freshman and tyson enrolled at ecu in 2013. Tyson is a year older and has had longer to develop. We'll see how Taylor does in a year. Henriquez is a true freshman too so saying they aren't nearly as good is ridiculous their stats are all very similar. Tejada shoots 30% from the field and 54% from the free throw line and averages 4.4 ppg so we will see if he becomes a star

(03-02-2015 11:08 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 10:51 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 10:49 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Tejada freshmen numbers are better than Cummings were.

...He plays over 2x as many minutes as Cummings played. I'm not exactly impressed.

Well I am pretty sure that people were not exactly impressed with Cummings when he was a freshman; sooooooo................. .

Will Cummings was a 3* recruit, whose best offers besides Temple were Buffalo, Winthrop, Murray State, UNCW, and GA Southern. Tulane, UCF and ECU all passed on him. We had zero expectations.

(03-02-2015 11:24 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 10:46 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 09:49 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 09:31 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 06:35 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  No offense but Tejada seems like a huge project. The few minutes he played vs Tulsa left me entirely unimpressed.

He is no project. He is just a freshman point guard. Take a look at Will Cummings freshman year at Temple. It takes some guys time to get adjusted to the speed of the game and the grind of the season. The UCF freshmen guards play a lot of minutes, because UCF has no other choice but to play them. Lebo can actually bring Tejada along a little slower, because there is a senior point guard playing in front of him. ECU isn't going anywhere this year anyway, so why not let the kid develop slowly.

BJ Taylor is better than tejada right now, no question about it. He is pretty impressive for a true freshman point guard in my opinion. How he progresses this offseason is very important. Same goes for Adonys Henriquez as they are both our top two leading scorers.

How do you know? BJ Taylor and Henriquez wouldn't be starting for ECU either, because Lebo doesn't start freshmen. Neither one of those UCF guards is nearly as good as ECU freshman guard BJ Tyson and Tyson doesn't start for ECU. Tejada might end up being a star for all you or me know, but the only ECU freshman that consistently started for Lebo at ECU was Paris Roberts Campbell. He was the only guy. The rest of the freshmen have sat while Lebo has been coach.

Idk about Tyson being better. Their stats are virtually identical with each players having a slight edge in a few categories. Also BJ Taylor is a true freshman and tyson enrolled at ecu in 2013. Tyson is a year older and has had longer to develop. We'll see how Taylor does in a year. Henriquez is a true freshman too so saying they aren't nearly as good is ridiculous their stats are all very similar. Tejada shoots 30% from the field and 54% from the free throw line and averages 4.4 ppg so we will see if he becomes a star

What is really ridiculous is that when looking at stats you didn't look at how many minutes per game Taylor and Henriquez play per game and how minutes Tyson and Tejada play. Taylor plays over 32 minutes per game and Henriquez plays over 35 minutes per game. Tyson plays a little over 24 minutes per game. Tejada averages a little over 14 minutes per game. Tyson averages the same points per game in in 8 minutes less per game and more rebounds than Taylor. Henriquez's numbers are not much better than Tejada's; Henriquez just plays 21 more minutes per game than Tejada' which allows more opportunities to build more stats. Look up some stuff, before touting your guards; and Tyson is head and shoulders better than all of the UCF guards. It is not even close.

(03-03-2015 12:50 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 11:24 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 10:46 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 09:49 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 09:31 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  He is no project. He is just a freshman point guard. Take a look at Will Cummings freshman year at Temple. It takes some guys time to get adjusted to the speed of the game and the grind of the season. The UCF freshmen guards play a lot of minutes, because UCF has no other choice but to play them. Lebo can actually bring Tejada along a little slower, because there is a senior point guard playing in front of him. ECU isn't going anywhere this year anyway, so why not let the kid develop slowly.

BJ Taylor is better than tejada right now, no question about it. He is pretty impressive for a true freshman point guard in my opinion. How he progresses this offseason is very important. Same goes for Adonys Henriquez as they are both our top two leading scorers.

How do you know? BJ Taylor and Henriquez wouldn't be starting for ECU either, because Lebo doesn't start freshmen. Neither one of those UCF guards is nearly as good as ECU freshman guard BJ Tyson and Tyson doesn't start for ECU. Tejada might end up being a star for all you or me know, but the only ECU freshman that consistently started for Lebo at ECU was Paris Roberts Campbell. He was the only guy. The rest of the freshmen have sat while Lebo has been coach.

Idk about Tyson being better. Their stats are virtually identical with each players having a slight edge in a few categories. Also BJ Taylor is a true freshman and tyson enrolled at ecu in 2013. Tyson is a year older and has had longer to develop. We'll see how Taylor does in a year. Henriquez is a true freshman too so saying they aren't nearly as good is ridiculous their stats are all very similar. Tejada shoots 30% from the field and 54% from the free throw line and averages 4.4 ppg so we will see if he becomes a star

What is really ridiculous is that when looking at stats you didn't look at how many minutes per game Taylor and Henriquez play per game and how minutes Tyson and Tejada play. Taylor plays over 32 minutes per game and Henriquez plays over 35 minutes per game. Tyson plays a little over 24 minutes per game. Tejada averages a little over 14 minutes per game. Tyson averages the same points per game in in 8 minutes less per game and more rebounds than Taylor. Henriquez's numbers are not much better than Tejada's; Henriquez just plays 21 more minutes per game than Tejada' which allows more opportunities to build more stats. Look up some stuff, before touting your guards; and Tyson is head and shoulders better than all of the UCF guards. It is not even close.

Lol, this is a funny argument you two are having

(03-03-2015 12:50 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 11:24 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 10:46 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 09:49 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 09:31 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  He is no project. He is just a freshman point guard. Take a look at Will Cummings freshman year at Temple. It takes some guys time to get adjusted to the speed of the game and the grind of the season. The UCF freshmen guards play a lot of minutes, because UCF has no other choice but to play them. Lebo can actually bring Tejada along a little slower, because there is a senior point guard playing in front of him. ECU isn't going anywhere this year anyway, so why not let the kid develop slowly.

BJ Taylor is better than tejada right now, no question about it. He is pretty impressive for a true freshman point guard in my opinion. How he progresses this offseason is very important. Same goes for Adonys Henriquez as they are both our top two leading scorers.

How do you know? BJ Taylor and Henriquez wouldn't be starting for ECU either, because Lebo doesn't start freshmen. Neither one of those UCF guards is nearly as good as ECU freshman guard BJ Tyson and Tyson doesn't start for ECU. Tejada might end up being a star for all you or me know, but the only ECU freshman that consistently started for Lebo at ECU was Paris Roberts Campbell. He was the only guy. The rest of the freshmen have sat while Lebo has been coach.

Idk about Tyson being better. Their stats are virtually identical with each players having a slight edge in a few categories. Also BJ Taylor is a true freshman and tyson enrolled at ecu in 2013. Tyson is a year older and has had longer to develop. We'll see how Taylor does in a year. Henriquez is a true freshman too so saying they aren't nearly as good is ridiculous their stats are all very similar. Tejada shoots 30% from the field and 54% from the free throw line and averages 4.4 ppg so we will see if he becomes a star

What is really ridiculous is that when looking at stats you didn't look at how many minutes per game Taylor and Henriquez play per game and how minutes Tyson and Tejada play. Taylor plays over 32 minutes per game and Henriquez plays over 35 minutes per game. Tyson plays a little over 24 minutes per game. Tejada averages a little over 14 minutes per game. Tyson averages the same points per game in in 8 minutes less per game and more rebounds than Taylor. Henriquez's numbers are not much better than Tejada's; Henriquez just plays 21 more minutes per game than Tejada' which allows more opportunities to build more stats. Look up some stuff, before touting your guards; and Tyson is head and shoulders better than all of the UCF guards. It is not even close.

I did see the minutes per game difference. You were right UCF's guards play out of necessity. I also noticed tyson does average more rebounds per game, by a whopping 1.2. If were gonna do that BJ Taylor has less turnovers and more assists per game so has a better assist to turnover ratio. Also has more steals per game, so I guess Taylor is better with the ball. Saying Tyson is head and shoulders above them is just dumb homerism. Henriquez shoots atleast 10% better in every category compared to Tejada while almost shooting 40% from 3. Tyson also isn't a true freshman like Henriquez and Taylor. You keep forgetting about that lol So give them another year like Tyson had and they will be head and shoulders past where he is now.

(03-03-2015 02:49 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 12:50 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 11:24 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 10:46 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 09:49 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

Lol, this is a funny argument you two are having

Agree battle of the bad and ugly..

(03-02-2015 11:12 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 11:09 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 11:08 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  Are ECU and UCF fans hyping up their 200 RPI caliber teams. Better watch out AAC! ECU and UCF drop that RPI.

A Memphis fan talking and his team isn't much better than the two teams programs that he is criticizing.

We are still a top 100 team in RPI. You guys are about 135 spots behind us.

The only RPI that counts is how many Regularly Paid Individuals are on your team....

As a UCF MBB season ticket holder, I think discretion would be the better part of valor ITT for some of my fellow fans. DJ is starting to land competitive classes, but I will wait to see some progress on the court before I start comparing appendages in the AAC.

(03-01-2015 10:20 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Lebo leaves or not isn't the issue, we are getting in the weeds now. The point is, to answer the OP's question:

No, the AAC'c coverage on ESPN, while not hurting ECU, isn't going to in itself help you become one of the better teams in the AAC. That's my point.

I'd like to see him start beating the UNC-Wilmingtons and UNC-Ashevilles of the world before we start anointing him. His teams consistently play bad early in the season (talking prior seasons, not this year for those who want to point out injuries). They also have been slow starters in multiple games this year. Still don't rebound in some games. I will say they've improved this season as it's gone on and he's a good bench jockey, but the teams consistently have glaring weaknesses that never seem to get addressed. If they're hitting shots those get covered up, but when they're not hitting 3s they can look very bad. My jury is still out and recruiting is a question mark under him until I see better. I don't think at any stop he's made an NCAA tournament. EsPN won't fix those things.

Well, back to the OP, I found this quote from an article about Kentrell Barkley interesting:

Quote:Barkley is the No. 3-ranked senior basketball player in North Carolina and the No. 97 player in the country by Rick Lewis of Phenom Hoop Report, an online basketball recruiting site.

“He is one of the hardest-working players I have ever seen,” Lewis said. “He is a stat sheet stuffer with points, rebounds, steals and assists, but the biggest thing about him is that he is a competitor. He has a high motor and plays with a purpose.”

Lewis said East Carolina is a good fit for Barkley, who had more than a dozen scholarship offers.

“Someone might wonder why he chose East Carolina over places like Rutgers,” Lewis said. “But ECU is a good opportunity for him. East Carolina is going to be televised 17 times this year. It plays in an up-and-coming conference, and Kentrell will have a chance to contribute immediately.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/09/02/4...rylink=cpy