(02-27-2015 02:24 PM)thewood3 Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 02:23 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 01:48 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 01:41 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 01:35 PM)Stammers Wrote:  You supposedly had nothing to say in your entire life before January, and supposedly joined on a whim for the sole purpose of spending every waking moment attacking Pastner.

Pastner sucks. That is the entirety of your contribution.

Where anywhere in this thread did I say Pastner sucks? This is what is wrong with posters like you. Someone makes a thread calling others idiots. I disagree with that approach. You lie about what I posted. Do you see how ridiculous you have become? And as far as spending every waking moment attacking Pastner-back that up with anything close to a truth. I hardly post at all. I'd say (without actually knowing) that most of my posts concern football. And I've posted a total of less than 60 posts. So again, back it up, or just admit that you are a liar.

It's sad that his repeated bannings for calling out fans apparently hasn't helped.


Tisk tisk

I don't understand why a board would allow any single poster to be the source of 80% of all the venom that takes place.

But they will ban hoopsdreams, who was a great poster. I don't get it

I'm assuming that HoopDreams doesn't have as many "friends" as Stammers

(02-27-2015 02:29 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 02:24 PM)thewood3 Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 02:23 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 01:48 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 01:41 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  Where anywhere in this thread did I say Pastner sucks? This is what is wrong with posters like you. Someone makes a thread calling others idiots. I disagree with that approach. You lie about what I posted. Do you see how ridiculous you have become? And as far as spending every waking moment attacking Pastner-back that up with anything close to a truth. I hardly post at all. I'd say (without actually knowing) that most of my posts concern football. And I've posted a total of less than 60 posts. So again, back it up, or just admit that you are a liar.

It's sad that his repeated bannings for calling out fans apparently hasn't helped.


Tisk tisk

I don't understand why a board would allow any single poster to be the source of 80% of all the venom that takes place.

But they will ban hoopsdreams, who was a great poster. I don't get it

I'm assuming that HoopDreams doesn't have as many "friends" as Stammers

Judging by his reputation, him and Snowtiger are very close "friends"

I just can't wrap my mind around the idea that he has any friends at all.

(02-27-2015 02:27 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

So, what does that say about a coach who has had good players and still has not won at a high level?

(02-27-2015 01:41 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 01:35 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 12:08 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 11:59 AM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 11:48 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  Do you people not ever get tired of making the exact same posts? Every win is due to Josh's superior coaching ability. Every loss is clearly someone else's fault. And anyone not agreeing with you is an idiot. We get it.

Just not looking thru red glasses. Was one of first of "on the fence" regarding Pastner to call for his dismissal at the end of THIS season. Get your facts straight. That doesn't mean he lost last nights game. Anyone with basketball knowledge would know that in the context that I said it.

The fact is you started ANOTHER THREAD attacking posters who have a different opinion than yours. Thank you for your great basketball knowledge. I don't know where the board would be with only 999 threads saying the exact same thing. Your knowledge contributed through post
#1000 has made all the difference.

You supposedly had nothing to say in your entire life before January, and supposedly joined on a whim for the sole purpose of spending every waking moment attacking Pastner.

Pastner sucks. That is the entirety of your contribution.

Where anywhere in this thread did I say Pastner sucks? This is what is wrong with posters like you. Someone makes a thread calling others idiots. I disagree with that approach. You lie about what I posted. Do you see how ridiculous you have become? And as far as spending every waking moment attacking Pastner-back that up with anything close to a truth. I hardly post at all. I'd say (without actually knowing) that most of my posts concern football. And I've posted a total of less than 60 posts. So again, back it up, or just admit that you are a liar.

Are we just gonna go with "you are a liar"?

(02-26-2015 11:35 PM)angusbethune Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 11:31 PM)Rob Wrote:  I'm a freaking idiot.

I'm by no means a fan boy but since you clearly put the blame squarely on Pastner, what specifically in this game do you think lost it for us? What coaching decisions cost us this game?

They only thing I put on him was putting KJ back in the game with a few mins in the first half to pick up his third.

You guys are completely missing the point. I don't care about in-game coaching. It's pretty clear to me that Josh doesn't know how to coach a team in practice. After all his time here we still have no real offensive plan on the vast majority of our possessions. Throughout the game you saw SMU's ability to create open shots through a structured offense. Shows what competent coaching can do. Meanwhile we're passing around the three line, unable to create anything.

You boys finally wore old Stammers out. Hell, I bet he felt like Hitler having to wage war on multiple fronts.

Well done.

(02-27-2015 04:41 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 11:35 PM)angusbethune Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 11:31 PM)Rob Wrote:  I'm a freaking idiot.

I'm by no means a fan boy but since you clearly put the blame squarely on Pastner, what specifically in this game do you think lost it for us? What coaching decisions cost us this game?

They only thing I put on him was putting KJ back in the game with a few mins in the first half to pick up his third.

You guys are completely missing the point. I don't care about in-game coaching. It's pretty clear to me that Josh doesn't know how to coach a team in practice. After all his time here we still have no real offensive plan on the vast majority of our possessions. Throughout the game you saw SMU's ability to create open shots through a structured offense. Shows what competent coaching can do. Meanwhile we're passing around the three line, unable to create anything.

This ^^^^. The in-game adjustments/strategy/substitutions stuff is peanuts compared to our lack of everything related to team execution.

(02-27-2015 05:27 PM)ByrdMan Wrote:  You boys finally wore old Stammers out. Hell, I bet he felt like Hitler having to wage war on multiple fronts.

Well done.

Don't worry, he'll be back. School hasn't let out in Canada yet.

Maybe the Clippers will change their mind.

(02-27-2015 07:36 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  Maybe the Clippers will change their mind.

Yo mama is so stupid...she went to a Clippers game to get a haircut.

#Kedrentalkinshat

(02-27-2015 02:23 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 01:48 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 01:41 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 01:35 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 12:08 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  The fact is you started ANOTHER THREAD attacking posters who have a different opinion than yours. Thank you for your great basketball knowledge. I don't know where the board would be with only 999 threads saying the exact same thing. Your knowledge contributed through post
#1000 has made all the difference.

You supposedly had nothing to say in your entire life before January, and supposedly joined on a whim for the sole purpose of spending every waking moment attacking Pastner.

Pastner sucks. That is the entirety of your contribution.

Where anywhere in this thread did I say Pastner sucks? This is what is wrong with posters like you. Someone makes a thread calling others idiots. I disagree with that approach. You lie about what I posted. Do you see how ridiculous you have become? And as far as spending every waking moment attacking Pastner-back that up with anything close to a truth. I hardly post at all. I'd say (without actually knowing) that most of my posts concern football. And I've posted a total of less than 60 posts. So again, back it up, or just admit that you are a liar.

It's sad that his repeated bannings for calling out fans apparently hasn't helped.


Tisk tisk

I don't understand why a board would allow any single poster to be the source of 80% of all the venom that takes place.

Well, he's got over 30,000 posts, so what board would it be without him?

(02-27-2015 09:25 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 02:23 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 01:48 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 01:41 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 01:35 PM)Stammers Wrote:  You supposedly had nothing to say in your entire life before January, and supposedly joined on a whim for the sole purpose of spending every waking moment attacking Pastner.

Pastner sucks. That is the entirety of your contribution.

Where anywhere in this thread did I say Pastner sucks? This is what is wrong with posters like you. Someone makes a thread calling others idiots. I disagree with that approach. You lie about what I posted. Do you see how ridiculous you have become? And as far as spending every waking moment attacking Pastner-back that up with anything close to a truth. I hardly post at all. I'd say (without actually knowing) that most of my posts concern football. And I've posted a total of less than 60 posts. So again, back it up, or just admit that you are a liar.

It's sad that his repeated bannings for calling out fans apparently hasn't helped.


Tisk tisk

I don't understand why a board would allow any single poster to be the source of 80% of all the venom that takes place.

Well, he's got over 30,000 posts, so what board would it be without him?

Guess we'll never find out.

(02-27-2015 08:24 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 07:58 AM)JTS Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 07:54 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 07:50 AM)JTS Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 07:47 AM)Stammers Wrote:  It made us the NCAA tournament 4 years in a row.

Oh fun, maybe we will get a trophy for participating. Your expectations are low, but that's ok, it takes all kinds.

We didn't make the tournament 4 years in a row? What trophy?

There's 68 teams in the tournament, somebody has to make it.

Not Mike Anderson, Jamie Dixon, Mark Turgeon, John Groce, Bruce Weber, Frank Martin, Buzz Williams. Tom Crean went through an 8 year period where he won 1 NCAA game. It took Mick Cronin 7 years before he won his first NCAA tournament game. Jamie Dixon hasn't been to the Sweet 16 in 5 years and won't even make the tournament this year.

Cal had 1 NCAA win his first 5 seasons here, and while we are at it; let's see how Ollie does once all of his players are settled in.

The bottom line is that there are reasonable people like me who aren't satisfied with where we are right now; but I'm not like a lot of the simpletons here that think that making the NCAA tournament means that you had a **** season.

The problem is you don't know anything about basketball and it's more apparent each time you post. We are a horribly coached team that plays bad defense and runs a bad offense. We win games by playing in a conference with a bunch of lesser schools in terms of basketball and playing s bunch of cream puffs.

The other thing that a lot of the pastner defenders can't see is that, even if you like pastner, even if I and the 70% or whatever % of the fan base it is that is turned off by this era are stupid and over reactive and irrational and whatever else you want to say, pastner still has to go.

He's lost the city and most of the fan base. It's only going to get worse. What % of the fans does he have to lose before he needs to go? 90? 95?

(02-27-2015 10:46 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 08:24 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 07:58 AM)JTS Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 07:54 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 07:50 AM)JTS Wrote:  Oh fun, maybe we will get a trophy for participating. Your expectations are low, but that's ok, it takes all kinds.

We didn't make the tournament 4 years in a row? What trophy?

There's 68 teams in the tournament, somebody has to make it.

Not Mike Anderson, Jamie Dixon, Mark Turgeon, John Groce, Bruce Weber, Frank Martin, Buzz Williams. Tom Crean went through an 8 year period where he won 1 NCAA game. It took Mick Cronin 7 years before he won his first NCAA tournament game. Jamie Dixon hasn't been to the Sweet 16 in 5 years and won't even make the tournament this year.

Cal had 1 NCAA win his first 5 seasons here, and while we are at it; let's see how Ollie does once all of his players are settled in.

The bottom line is that there are reasonable people like me who aren't satisfied with where we are right now; but I'm not like a lot of the simpletons here that think that making the NCAA tournament means that you had a **** season.

The problem is you don't know anything about basketball and it's more apparent each time you post. We are a horribly coached team that plays bad defense and runs a bad offense. We win games by playing in a conference with a bunch of lesser schools in terms of basketball and playing s bunch of cream puffs.

The other thing that a lot of the pastner defenders can't see is that, even if you like pastner, even if I and the 70% or whatever % of the fan base it is that is turned off by this era are stupid and over reactive and irrational and whatever else you want to say, pastner still has to go.

He's lost the city and most of the fan base. It's only going to get worse. What % of the fans does he have to lose before he needs to go? 90? 95?

I would say stammers and Mimi would be the last two fans standing. But stammers doesn't go to any games, and I have no clue about Mimi.

(02-27-2015 11:57 PM)ToldYa Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 10:46 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 08:24 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 07:58 AM)JTS Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 07:54 AM)Stammers Wrote:  We didn't make the tournament 4 years in a row? What trophy?

There's 68 teams in the tournament, somebody has to make it.

Not Mike Anderson, Jamie Dixon, Mark Turgeon, John Groce, Bruce Weber, Frank Martin, Buzz Williams. Tom Crean went through an 8 year period where he won 1 NCAA game. It took Mick Cronin 7 years before he won his first NCAA tournament game. Jamie Dixon hasn't been to the Sweet 16 in 5 years and won't even make the tournament this year.

Cal had 1 NCAA win his first 5 seasons here, and while we are at it; let's see how Ollie does once all of his players are settled in.

The bottom line is that there are reasonable people like me who aren't satisfied with where we are right now; but I'm not like a lot of the simpletons here that think that making the NCAA tournament means that you had a **** season.

The problem is you don't know anything about basketball and it's more apparent each time you post. We are a horribly coached team that plays bad defense and runs a bad offense. We win games by playing in a conference with a bunch of lesser schools in terms of basketball and playing s bunch of cream puffs.

The other thing that a lot of the pastner defenders can't see is that, even if you like pastner, even if I and the 70% or whatever % of the fan base it is that is turned off by this era are stupid and over reactive and irrational and whatever else you want to say, pastner still has to go.

He's lost the city and most of the fan base. It's only going to get worse. What % of the fans does he have to lose before he needs to go? 90? 95?

I would say stammers and Mimi would be the last two fans standing. But stammers doesn't go to any games, and I have no clue about Mimi.

You wouldn't know Mimi was there even if he WAS standing.

(02-26-2015 11:29 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  A freaking idiot. AN's worst game and effort this year, no PG after Kedren fouled his dumb self out, Had to play Cunningham who holds the ball longer than Kobe and Markell and Burrell hurt with Pookie sick.

Amazing we were in it at all. Not that Josh did anything spectacular; just not a whole lot he could have done differently to win.

Forget this game. Go watch 5 minutes of the 2008 NCAA T against Texas, MS, or UCLA, then ask the question, in the years since is Tiger basketball as good as or worse? Six years in you should not be going backward. It's the Wayne Yates years all over again. If you don't have guards, then who builds that roster? If you don't have a go to scorer, who builds that roster? If you slow guards that can't defend, who builds that roster? If you have players that don't respect you, who's responsibility is that? Everything rises and falls on leadership. So the state of Tiger b ball starts with the President, then the AD, then the Head Coach. I love the Tigers but have lost confidence in our ability to turn this program into exciting basketball.

(02-28-2015 10:29 AM)Tigers2008 Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 11:29 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  A freaking idiot. AN's worst game and effort this year, no PG after Kedren fouled his dumb self out, Had to play Cunningham who holds the ball longer than Kobe and Markell and Burrell hurt with Pookie sick.

Amazing we were in it at all. Not that Josh did anything spectacular; just not a whole lot he could have done differently to win.

Forget this game. Go watch 5 minutes of the 2008 NCAA T against Texas, MS, or UCLA, then ask the question, in the years since is Tiger basketball as good as or worse? Six years in you should not be going backward. It's the Wayne Yates years all over again. If you don't have guards, then who builds that roster? If you don't have a go to scorer, who builds that roster? If you slow guards that can't defend, who builds that roster? If you have players that don't respect you, who's responsibility is that? Everything rises and falls on leadership. So the state of Tiger b ball starts with the President, then the AD, then the Head Coach. I love the Tigers but have lost confidence in our ability to turn this program into exciting basketball.

It seems like misgivings and doubts have crept into this situation, the kind that lead me to question exactly where 'leadership' is planning to go. Sometimes I get the feeling that 'they' have lost a certain degree of interest in the BB program--just in general.

In any case, my misgivings about where our BB program might be headed also include all those involved in the decisions making processes--including the allocating of money to the program. This could be because I am a results now oriented person. So I am taking my own uncertainty with some grains of salt. It is getting more difficult, however.

There seems to be something lacking from the top that trickles on down to all those involved as this situation develops.

(02-28-2015 11:09 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(02-28-2015 10:29 AM)Tigers2008 Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 11:29 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  A freaking idiot. AN's worst game and effort this year, no PG after Kedren fouled his dumb self out, Had to play Cunningham who holds the ball longer than Kobe and Markell and Burrell hurt with Pookie sick.

Amazing we were in it at all. Not that Josh did anything spectacular; just not a whole lot he could have done differently to win.

Forget this game. Go watch 5 minutes of the 2008 NCAA T against Texas, MS, or UCLA, then ask the question, in the years since is Tiger basketball as good as or worse? Six years in you should not be going backward. It's the Wayne Yates years all over again. If you don't have guards, then who builds that roster? If you don't have a go to scorer, who builds that roster? If you slow guards that can't defend, who builds that roster? If you have players that don't respect you, who's responsibility is that? Everything rises and falls on leadership. So the state of Tiger b ball starts with the President, then the AD, then the Head Coach. I love the Tigers but have lost confidence in our ability to turn this program into exciting basketball.

It seems like misgivings and doubts have crept into this situation, the kind that lead me to question exactly where 'leadership' is planning to go. Sometimes I get the feeling that 'they' have lost a certain degree of interest in the BB program--just in general.

In any case, my misgivings about where our BB program might be headed also include all those involved in the decisions making processes--including the allocating of money to the program. This could be because I am a results now oriented person. So I am taking my own uncertainty with some grains of salt. It is getting more difficult, however.

There seems to be something lacking from the top as this situation develops.

Early morning on the coast doe

(02-28-2015 11:11 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(02-28-2015 11:09 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(02-28-2015 10:29 AM)Tigers2008 Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 11:29 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  A freaking idiot. AN's worst game and effort this year, no PG after Kedren fouled his dumb self out, Had to play Cunningham who holds the ball longer than Kobe and Markell and Burrell hurt with Pookie sick.

Amazing we were in it at all. Not that Josh did anything spectacular; just not a whole lot he could have done differently to win.

Forget this game. Go watch 5 minutes of the 2008 NCAA T against Texas, MS, or UCLA, then ask the question, in the years since is Tiger basketball as good as or worse? Six years in you should not be going backward. It's the Wayne Yates years all over again. If you don't have guards, then who builds that roster? If you don't have a go to scorer, who builds that roster? If you slow guards that can't defend, who builds that roster? If you have players that don't respect you, who's responsibility is that? Everything rises and falls on leadership. So the state of Tiger b ball starts with the President, then the AD, then the Head Coach. I love the Tigers but have lost confidence in our ability to turn this program into exciting basketball.

It seems like misgivings and doubts have crept into this situation, the kind that lead me to question exactly where 'leadership' is planning to go. Sometimes I get the feeling that 'they' have lost a certain degree of interest in the BB program--just in general.

In any case, my misgivings about where our BB program might be headed also include all those involved in the decisions making processes--including the allocating of money to the program. This could be because I am a results now oriented person. So I am taking my own uncertainty with some grains of salt. It is getting more difficult, however.

There seems to be something lacking from the top as this situation develops.

Early morning on the coast doe

no sleepy doe..coyotes woke me up