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RE: The problem appears to be the American Athletic Conference
(03-07-2015 06:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(03-07-2015 12:40 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  If the spending continues and nobody has anywhere better to go for long enough---its possible you may actually see an entire conference rise. Its never happened---but that's because in the past, the teams at the forefront of the rise were always promoted. What happens when that poaching mechanism stops? It may be interesting to watch.

What I see happening is that as P5 revenue grows, so will spending, and this means that the G5 schools that are desperate to get the golden ticket to the P5 will be under more stress to spend even more, but with paltry G5 dollars available, this will be harder and harder to do.

And, with the big gap in media interest between P5 and G5, recruits will be less inclined to sign with even the best G5 programs. Basically, the more time goes by, the worse things will get for G5 schools.

Its been that way since the dawn of the BCS era and its dreaded AQ and non-AQ caste system. Like I said, as long as the 85 scholarship limit exists, there is hope. Essentially, the P5 are just paying a lot more money to get the same 5,525 athletes (65 x 85). Where the opportunity exists is being the conference that is closest to the P5 with respect to student athlete benefits. That would give that conference the ability to attract the best of the remaining athletes. Skimming the creme off the top of the remaining pool of athletes is a significant advantage going forward---provided a single conference makes that commitment.
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RE: The problem appears to be the American Athletic Conference
(03-06-2015 07:34 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  
(03-06-2015 08:31 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(03-06-2015 01:41 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  Keep pulling saregrin ratings out of you excel sheet and point to that as your proof. The AAC is the best g5 conference period. There is a reason we are positioned the way we are and we are the "feeder" conference as someone mentioned. Keep toting the party line quo. Usf has been terrible and you don't have a dog in the fight so you will just blame it on the conf. With regard to nc state they were a different team with jacoby brisett. He beat us. We lost our starting running back, qb, most of the oline, and during the game our starting safety and corner. We had frosh getting their first real minutes in a bowl game in the secondary because of injuries and brisett capitalized on mistakes. I really wish you would stop identifying yourself with our conf because you really are not a fan

03-lmfao Keep mouthing the Aresco propaganda about how good we are all you want, but the fact of the matter is that we were the THIRD best G5 conference in football this past year. That's not according to Sagarin, that was our official result according to the CFP itself, which ranked us 3rd, and gave us 3rd place money out of the $15 million performance fund.

That's reality. And since there has only been one year of the G5, that makes us, as of now, the 3rd best G5 football conference.

As for who the "feeder" conference is, first, we don't know who the G5 feeder conference for future P5 expansion will be, because there hasn't been any expansion since the G5 was formed. But second, even if we are, that isn't a property of the AAC, but rather the brand-value of schools in our conference.

That said, if you want to say we are the most valuable G5 conference, well, that's true, because our media deal is, as of now, and despite how sucky it is, tops in money for the G5. We get paid more for our games than any other G5 conference. Actually, there is a caveat to this, as the Big East gets paid more media money than us. So the Big East is actually the most valuable non-P5 conference, but of the G5 conferences that play football, we are most valuable.

But if by "best" you mean on the football field, well, that's not true, we're 3rd best.

I identify with the AAC because my school plays in it. But, I would prefer that my school would stop playing in it as soon as possible and join a P5 league. Does that make me "not a fan"? I'd say it makes me just like you. 07-coffee3

That's because you are evaluating a conference based on one season. If you truly believe the programs, football or otherwise are better in other conferences then I can't help you.

I evaluate our status in the G5 on "one season" because that's all the seasons as a G5 the AAC has had. And as of that one season, we are the 3rd place G5 football conference.

Now, I guess you want to evaluate us based on assumptions you are making about how good we will be in the future? That's fine, but it's also wishful thinking and has nothing to do with where we are now - 3rd place.
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