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RE: What will it take for CUSA to get multiple teams dancing?
Bubble shmubble. This whole conversation is moot because we're going to win the tournament suckas.
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RE: What will it take for CUSA to get multiple teams dancing?
Don't forget Dawgas, if La Tech beats UTEP on Thursday, ODU can also say they beat the snot out of the top team in C-USA in their only meeting. Kinda pokes holes in your one argument against the Monarchs
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RE: What will it take for CUSA to get multiple teams dancing?
(02-24-2015 09:15 AM)ODUR8R Wrote:  Don't forget Dawgas, if La Tech beats UTEP on Thursday, ODU can also say they beat the snot out of the top team in C-USA in their only meeting. Kinda pokes holes in your one argument against the Monarchs

I think La Tech takes UTEP. UTEP has a huge size advantage, but La Tech's speed is really amazing.
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RE: What will it take for CUSA to get multiple teams dancing?
(02-24-2015 09:59 AM)Niner National Wrote:  
(02-24-2015 09:15 AM)ODUR8R Wrote:  Don't forget Dawgas, if La Tech beats UTEP on Thursday, ODU can also say they beat the snot out of the top team in C-USA in their only meeting. Kinda pokes holes in your one argument against the Monarchs

I think La Tech takes UTEP. UTEP has a huge size advantage, but La Tech's speed is really amazing.

This is true. It was that speed which doomed the Miners in at their January meeting in El Paso. I like to think Coach Floyd and staff will have made the necessary adjustments to that speed, and take advantage of their size. I'm actually fairly confident heading into this game.
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RE: What will it take for CUSA to get multiple teams dancing?
Based on the sample of LT and UTEP posters representing their schools on this board, I'll be pulling for UTEP.
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RE: What will it take for CUSA to get multiple teams dancing?
(02-24-2015 01:18 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Once they look at ODU conference record they're out, sorry just the way it is

You are so hopeless it's comical.

You keep repeating this argument that has zero basis in reality. You must realize since you are speaking so authoritatively about everyone's chances that the selection committee doesn't look at or take into account conference record or standings, right? RIGHT?! LOL.

OOC scheduling is much, much more important than in conference. That is why ODU has a superior resume to La Tech and UTEP this season. La Tech continues to schedule terribly for a team that believes it is NCAA tournament quality.
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RE: What will it take for CUSA to get multiple teams dancing?
(02-24-2015 10:33 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Based on the sample of LT and UTEP posters representing their schools on this board, I'll be pulling for UTEP.

Don't take it hard Respect its just this Dawgas guy who is really a dawg ass that is talking out of his ass. I think majority of Tech guys are nice but some are still sore over the loss to us which i understand.
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RE: What will it take for CUSA to get multiple teams dancing?
There appear to be two opposing arguments that ODU will have to hope for / worry about. One, that their OOC was good enough and against a strong enough competition (SOS) that the committee will favor them (they played good teams and beat them). Versus, that CUSA is the 17th rpi-ranked conference and the committee almost never takes a borderline or even close to borderline team from such a bad conference.

Personally, I think the committee tends to cherry pick data depending on who they want to shoe-horn into the tournament. They emphasize SOS, but they also emphasize conference strength, good wins, bad losses, etc., and it seems to depend on who they are talking about as to whether they emphasize one or another stat. I really wish they'd focus more on the OOC rpi performance corrected for road/home/neutral for comparing teams from different conferences, as some conferences have such a huge advantage when most of their members play so many home games OOC.
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RE: What will it take for CUSA to get multiple teams dancing?
(02-24-2015 10:52 AM)9erken Wrote:  Personally, I think the committee tends to cherry pick data depending on who they want to shoe-horn into the tournament.

Bang on. If they want to set up a second round ODU/UVA game then they will. If they want St Johns or Temple instead then they'll leave ODU out. ODU can make it, but we're 5/6 games from that discussion, there's a high chance of a bubble collapse which puts ODU in. There could also be another ODU loss which ends the discussion.
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RE: What will it take for CUSA to get multiple teams dancing?
(02-24-2015 10:37 AM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  
(02-24-2015 01:18 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Once they look at ODU conference record they're out, sorry just the way it is

You are so hopeless it's comical.

You keep repeating this argument that has zero basis in reality. You must realize since you are speaking so authoritatively about everyone's chances that the selection committee doesn't look at or take into account conference record or standings, right? RIGHT?! LOL.

OOC scheduling is much, much more important than in conference. That is why ODU has a superior resume to La Tech and UTEP this season. La Tech continues to schedule terribly for a team that believes it is NCAA tournament quality.

(02-24-2015 11:24 AM)ODUgradstudent Wrote:  
(02-24-2015 10:52 AM)9erken Wrote:  Personally, I think the committee tends to cherry pick data depending on who they want to shoe-horn into the tournament.

Bang on. If they want to set up a second round ODU/UVA game then they will. If they want St Johns or Temple instead then they'll leave ODU out. ODU can make it, but we're 5/6 games from that discussion, there's a high chance of a bubble collapse which puts ODU in. There could also be another ODU loss which ends the discussion.


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RE: What will it take for CUSA to get multiple teams dancing?
A great solution to all of this would be for EVERY team that indicates that they care about basketball in this conference (UAB, LaTech, WKU, Charlotte, MTSU) would schedule aggressively ala UTEP and ODU. Then we all would rise in computers and voters mindsets. We all need to raise each other, stop the NAIA, D2 and low-low major SOS 300+ scheduling.
Or split the conference up after admitting that CUSA is a glorified low-Major in basketball with good G5 football
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RE: What will it take for CUSA to get multiple teams dancing?
(02-24-2015 11:46 AM)HeadsetGuy Wrote:  A great solution to all of this would be for EVERY team that indicates that they care about basketball in this conference (UAB, LaTech, WKU, Charlotte, MTSU) would schedule aggressively ala UTEP and ODU. Then we all would rise in computers and voters mindsets. We all need to raise each other, stop the NAIA, D2 and low-low major SOS 300+ scheduling.
Or split the conference up after admitting that CUSA is a glorified low-Major in basketball with good G5 football

FWIW, UAB and Charlotte should be included with UTEP and ODU as the schools who schedule well. The former will see big improvement next season OOC with their young guns being a year older and the latter just need to find a leader at head coach.
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(02-24-2015 10:45 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  
(02-24-2015 10:33 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Based on the sample of LT and UTEP posters representing their schools on this board, I'll be pulling for UTEP.

Don't take it hard Respect its just this Dawgas guy who is really a dawg ass that is talking out of his ass. I think majority of Tech guys are nice but some are still sore over the loss to us which i understand.

He just registered and has 36 posts. I am beginning to think it is Masonfan, P8, or gmutom in disguise. Posts just like them.
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(02-24-2015 11:56 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(02-24-2015 10:45 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  
(02-24-2015 10:33 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Based on the sample of LT and UTEP posters representing their schools on this board, I'll be pulling for UTEP.

Don't take it hard Respect its just this Dawgas guy who is really a dawg ass that is talking out of his ass. I think majority of Tech guys are nice but some are still sore over the loss to us which i understand.

He just registered and has 36 posts. I am beginning to think it is Masonfan, P8, or gmutom in disguise. Posts just like them.

He may very well may be one of them. He is teaching ODU and Charlotte folks the advantages of home court 03-lmfao that dude is either drunk or too dumb to understand both ODU and Charlotte started playing football recently not Basketball.
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(02-24-2015 12:16 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  
(02-24-2015 11:56 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(02-24-2015 10:45 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  
(02-24-2015 10:33 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Based on the sample of LT and UTEP posters representing their schools on this board, I'll be pulling for UTEP.

Don't take it hard Respect its just this Dawgas guy who is really a dawg ass that is talking out of his ass. I think majority of Tech guys are nice but some are still sore over the loss to us which i understand.

He just registered and has 36 posts. I am beginning to think it is Masonfan, P8, or gmutom in disguise. Posts just like them.

He may very well may be one of them. He is teaching ODU and Charlotte folks the advantages of home court 03-lmfao that dude is either drunk or too dumb to understand both ODU and Charlotte started playing football recently not Basketball.

We could summon Tmac to explain that home court is actually a disadvantage.

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I hope UAB basketball is here in C-USA next year to talk about.
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(02-24-2015 12:27 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  I hope UAB basketball is here in C-USA next year to talk about.

Hear, hear! Solidarity!
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Still no takers on my offer????

ODU wins out, makes it to the conference championship and still doesn't get an at-large. Taking all bets up to 5k
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(02-24-2015 01:09 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Still no takers on my offer????

ODU wins out, makes it to the conference championship and still doesn't get an at-large. Taking all bets up to 5k

If we win the next 6, I'll take the bet. Until then, there is nothing to bet.
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(02-24-2015 11:46 AM)HeadsetGuy Wrote:  A great solution to all of this would be for EVERY team that indicates that they care about basketball in this conference (UAB, LaTech, WKU, Charlotte, MTSU) would schedule aggressively ala UTEP and ODU. Then we all would rise in computers and voters mindsets. We all need to raise each other, stop the NAIA, D2 and low-low major SOS 300+ scheduling.
Or split the conference up after admitting that CUSA is a glorified low-Major in basketball with good G5 football

I know Tech is trying. We're having to play more road OOC games because people don't want to play us at home. The SEC won't schedule us at all. Last season we were able to get a couple big XII opponents. This season we had to travel to Temple, Syracuse, and NC State for quality OOC opponents. We only had 1 DII game and that was because we couldn't find a DI school to fill that date right around Christmas.
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