I wanted to talk about how the A10 (Big East's little sister) is so underrated and the CAA is getting all this credit. Drexel beat Syracuse and Nova in DECEMBER, that doesn't matter! UMass went 13-3 in the A10, so did Xavier. Both Xavier and UMass have been eliminated from their tourney. Phil Martelli thinks both teams should get in anyway. Most likely, Xavier will get an at large, GWU or RIU gets the auto bid, and UMass will get screwed. The worst part the bracketology guy thinks THREE CAA teams will get in! The only reason their RPI's are better is because George Mason's miracle so they are all overrated and play eachother. Watch all CAA teams go down in a blaze of overratedness!!!

esayem Wrote:and UMass will get screwed.

Good. F uck Umess.

The A10 is not underrated. They are a miserable conference. In two games against the A10 this year we (UC) won as many games as we did in a 16 game BE schedule, including taking out their champion by double digits. I suspect Xavier and UMass are both overrated based off racking up a bunch of wins against horrible competition. Xavier has some good non-conference wins though (Illinois, Kansas State, and Villanova) and probably deserve a seed in the 9-10 range.

The A-10 would be so much better if they actually had ten teams...i.e. lopping off the bottom four (St. Bonaquitter, Duquesne, LaSalle and Fordham (this year is an anomaly)).

If I'm the A-10, after the eventual BE split and raid, I get rid of the above four, tell St. Louis to find a midwest league (if the BE doesn't take them) and reload. Boston University would be an obvious candidate and Winthrop would make a good travel partner for Charlotte. Hopefully then Buffalo would wake up and realize what a mistake it was to join the MAC, bring its football back to I-AA and join. Maybe some of the northern CAA teams would want in too to reduce their travel.

Longstrangetrip Wrote:

esayem Wrote:and UMass will get screwed.

Good. F uck Umess.

Easy dude; this site is PG.

Tigeer Wrote:

Longstrangetrip Wrote:

esayem Wrote:and UMass will get screwed.

Good. F uck Umess.

Easy dude; this site is PG.

Sorry. I will edit if anyone is offended.

I still would like to see this for football:

America East
Albany
Hofstra
Maine
Massachusetts
New Hampshire
Northeastern
Rhode Island
Stony Brook

Colonial Athletic
Delaware
James Madison
Old Dominion
Richmond
Towson
Villanova
William & Mary

Yeah, and I'd like to see all the teams with bears as mascots join in a conference. And before each game have the bears lead the teams on to the field and their'd be this giant bear fight. That'd be cool.

David Krysakowski Wrote:I still would like to see this for football:

America East
Albany
Hofstra
Maine
Massachusetts
New Hampshire
Northeastern
Rhode Island
Stony Brook

Colonial Athletic

Delaware
James Madison
Old Dominion
Richmond
Towson
Villanova
William & Mary

It will not happen like that. What you are likely to see, if current trends hold up, is the following:

AMERICA EAST CONFERENCE
Maine
New Hampshire
* Vermont (no football)
Massachusetts (traded from A10 for Boston U - yes that would be difficult)
Rhode Island (traded from A10 for Hartford - yes that would be difficult)
Central Connecticut
Stony Brook
Albany
* Binghamton (no football)
* UMBC (no football)

COLONIAL ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION
Northeastern
Hofstra
* Drexel (no football)
Delaware
Towson
* George Mason (no football)
James Madison
* Virginia Commonwealth (no football)
William & Mary
Old Dominion (guaranteed CAA membership in 2011)
* UNC Wilmington (no football)
Georgia State (now looking more likely to start a program)

FOOTBALL ONLY: Villanova
FOOTBALL ONLY: Richmond

Even if Georgia State doesn't follow through, the CAA will have 7 full and 2 football only schools.

RealDeal Wrote:The A10 is not underrated. They are a miserable conference. In two games against the A10 this year we (UC) won as many games as we did in a 16 game BE schedule, including taking out their champion by double digits. I suspect Xavier and UMass are both overrated based off racking up a bunch of wins against horrible competition. Xavier has some good non-conference wins though (Illinois, Kansas State, and Villanova) and probably deserve a seed in the 9-10 range.

Agreed. The A-10 was a good conference several years ago, now they are "young" for like the 4th or 5th year straight. Despite UC having a down year and some of our bad losses I really believe that if UC had been in the A-10 they would have won 18 to 20 games, had double-digit conference wins and MIGHT have been in the NCAA bubble with wins over Xavier and NC State but definitely would have been in position to make a run at the A-10 tournament title. That's how down the A-10 has been the last few years since sending 2 teams to the Elite Eight in 2004.

A10 wins over tourney teams...
G. Wash beat VaTech
UMass beat Louisville
UMass beat C. Conn St.
Dayton beat Louisville
Dayton beat Holy Cross
Dayton beat Creighton
Dayton beat Miami (OH)
Xavier beat Villanova
Xavier beat Miami (OH)
Xavier beat Illinois

Clearly better than the CAA

Stoney Brook and UMass...no thanks David

And it was less than four years ago when 4 of the A10 were in the tourney!

Not sure about the A-10 as a whole as it is down, but Xavier by themselves deserved an at large bid. I saw Matt S. in another thread yesterday commenting that he didn't think the Xavier slams on the ESPN selection show were warranted and I have to agree. There are numerous better options if you are looking to hang a team for an undeserved at large bid.

esayem Wrote:A10 wins over tourney teams...

G. Wash beat VaTech
UMass beat Louisville
UMass beat C. Conn St.
Dayton beat Louisville
Dayton beat Holy Cross
Dayton beat Creighton
Dayton beat Miami (OH)
Xavier beat Villanova
Xavier beat Miami (OH)
Xavier beat Illinois

Clearly better than the CAA

Stoney Brook and UMass...no thanks David

And it was less than four years ago when 4 of the A10 were in the tourney!

The A-10, as a league, did not accomplish those wins. Dayton has four of them, Xavier has three of them, Massachusetts has two of them, and George Washington has the other one. The remaining 10 squads in that league have a grand total of ZERO combined wins against NCAA Tournament teams. Amazing.

Two of the wins on your list are against Miami of Ohio. The Redhawks are only in the NCAA Tournament due to a waning seconds bank shot buzzer beater and a ridiculous mess of confusion about how much time should have been on the clock. I am not saying that the CAA is any better than the A-10 though.

As for what David Krasykowski posted he, like far too many others on this board, is only thinking about football. People like that always ignore schools which do not have FBS football teams when they come up with their alignments. There are not enough FCS schools to come up with ideal Northeast leagues.

HEY!! KNOCK THIS CRAP OFF!! THIS IS A BE BOARD, NOT A-10 AND CAA LEFTOVERS BOARD DEAD HORSE ISSUE CHAIRMAN lmfao

esayem Wrote:A10 wins over tourney teams...
G. Wash beat VaTech
UMass beat Louisville
UMass beat C. Conn St.
Dayton beat Louisville
Dayton beat Holy Cross
Dayton beat Creighton
Dayton beat Miami (OH)
Xavier beat Villanova
Xavier beat Miami (OH)
Xavier beat Illinois

Clearly better than the CAA

Stoney Brook and UMass...no thanks David

And it was less than four years ago when 4 of the A10 were in the tourney!

Clearly?

Come on! Old Dominion beat Georgetown.

I don't think anything is "clearly" when we talk about these conferences.

esayem Wrote:A10 wins over tourney teams...
G. Wash beat VaTech
UMass beat Louisville
UMass beat C. Conn St.
Dayton beat Louisville
Dayton beat Holy Cross
Dayton beat Creighton
Dayton beat Miami (OH)
Xavier beat Villanova
Xavier beat Miami (OH)
Xavier beat Illinois

Clearly better than the CAA

Stoney Brook and UMass...no thanks David

And it was less than four years ago when 4 of the A10 were in the tourney!

Xavier also beat CAA champ VCU.

A-10 isn't that good as a group. Ohio was 3-0 vs the A-10 with a 30 point win over URI and the lead was like 37 until the scrubs hit the floor in the second half.

A-10
Drexel
Duquesne
Fordham
George Washington
Georgetown
La Salle
Providence
St. Bonaventure
St. John's
St. Joseph's
Seton Hall
Villanova

America East for Basketball
Albany
Binghamton
Boston University
Hartford
Hofstra
Maine
Massachusetts
New Hampshire
Northeastern
Rhode Island
Stony Brook
Vermont

Colonial Athletic Association for Basketball
Charlotte
Delaware
George Mason
Georgia State
James Madison
Maryland at Baltimore County
North Carolina at Wilmington
Old Dominion
Richmond
Towson
Virginia Commonwealth
William & Mary

Pioneer League for Basketball
Butler
Dayton
De Paul
Loyola (IL)
Marquette
Nortre Dame
Saint Louis
Valparaiso
Xavier