(02-17-2015 12:55 PM)JHG722 Wrote: We have two very good high end BBQ joints in Philly in Fette Sau and Percy Street. Fette Sau is one of restaurateur and Temple alum Stephen Starr's restaurants, and opened in Williamsburg, Brooklyn first. For not being Kansas City, they're damn good. Actually went last weekend.
"High end BBQ joints"
SMH.
It's Philly, the COL is high, and Stephen Starr does everything first class. Not going to find cheap food in nice areas. If you want the smoker outside a gas station in a crappy neighborhood, you can find it. I'm sure you can find BBQ from an old shack somewhere too.
Hell, the two places I went in KC and Dallas were both very nice. I don't know if you've ever been to Philly, but it's quite different culturally from Eastern North Carolina.
I've had "high end BBQ" in Raleigh before, and while it's good it's not worth the money. When you can get the best BBQ I've ever had for about 5-7 bucks paying 20-30 for something not as good is pretty pointless.
(02-17-2015 03:45 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: I've had "high end BBQ" in Raleigh before, and while it's good it's not worth the money. When you can get the best BBQ I've ever had for about 5-7 bucks paying 20-30 for something not as good is pretty pointless.
(02-17-2015 03:45 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: I've had "high end BBQ" in Raleigh before, and while it's good it's not worth the money. When you can get the best BBQ I've ever had for about 5-7 bucks paying 20-30 for something not as good is pretty pointless.
Do you have any idea how high their rent is? They can't charge $5-7 for BBQ. The sides themselves are $5.
If I could pay that I would, but the prices reflect rent and COL. I live in the highest rent part of Philly. You're not going to get a meal for under $10 here, short of a slice of pizza. You're not going to get BBQ here for anywhere near that, probably even in the less desirable neighborhoods.
(02-17-2015 12:55 PM)JHG722 Wrote: We have two very good high end BBQ joints in Philly in Fette Sau and Percy Street. Fette Sau is one of restaurateur and Temple alum Stephen Starr's restaurants, and opened in Williamsburg, Brooklyn first. For not being Kansas City, they're damn good. Actually went last weekend.
"High end BBQ joints"
SMH.
It's Philly, the COL is high, and Stephen Starr does everything first class. Not going to find cheap food in nice areas. If you want the smoker outside a gas station in a crappy neighborhood, you can find it. I'm sure you can find BBQ from an old shack somewhere too.
Hell, the two places I went in KC and Dallas were both very nice. I don't know if you've ever been to Philly, but it's quite different culturally from Eastern North Carolina.
I've been all over the East coast, a lot of the midwest and some parts of Canada. 90% of the time the best food in a given area wasn't at a "high end" restaurant, certainly not for BBQ. Usually it's been at some hole in the wall mom and pop place.
(This post was last modified: 02-17-2015 04:03 PM by blunderbuss.)
(02-17-2015 03:45 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: I've had "high end BBQ" in Raleigh before, and while it's good it's not worth the money. When you can get the best BBQ I've ever had for about 5-7 bucks paying 20-30 for something not as good is pretty pointless.
Do you have any idea how high their rent is? They can't charge $5-7 for BBQ. The sides themselves are $5.
If I could pay that I would, but the prices reflect rent and COL. I live in the highest rent part of Philly. You're not going to get a meal for under $10 here, short of a slice of pizza. You're not going to get BBQ here for anywhere near that, probably even in the less desirable neighborhoods.
I'm sure they can't afford to charge that, I'm only saying BBQ is not something I'm going to spend a fortune on. I have no issue spending money on a high end meal, but BBQ isn't high end food. Good for them that they can make money selling it there. I foolishly bought "high end BBQ" in Australia a couple of months ago because we found a place that an American owned and some of my Aussie friends wanted to try, and it was good but I spent $40 on something I could get for $10 in NC. I spent less on a lovely Kangaroo Filet than I did on some average BBQ. That's why I don't get BBQ very often outside of eastern NC.
(02-17-2015 01:43 PM)JHG722 Wrote: Maybe not compared to places like Dallas, etc., but NYC has pretty damn good BBQ. In addition to Southerners who have moved there, you have wealthy restaurateurs like Stephen Starr who have the time and money to learn the process of what makes BBQ in NC, TX, TN, KS, etc. so great and also hiring people who are from those areas. I know the 'head chef' at Fette Sau in Philly is from NC.
Atlanta has guys with oil drum offset smokers in an empty parking lot. You dont have to be a wealthy restaurateur to make great Q.
In NC, or at least eastern NC, we pretty much just do the whole Hog BBQ. Its much better to me but it's also what I'm used to.
(02-17-2015 03:45 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: I've had "high end BBQ" in Raleigh before, and while it's good it's not worth the money. When you can get the best BBQ I've ever had for about 5-7 bucks paying 20-30 for something not as good is pretty pointless.
Yea "The Pit" in Raleigh was featured on Food Network for their BBQ. While it was decent, it was no where as good as the hole in the wall joint "Coopers" right down the street. I really enjoyed that place. And the owner of the place gave us our meal for free because she liked some $5-$10 bracelet my sister was wearing that day.
(02-17-2015 03:45 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: I've had "high end BBQ" in Raleigh before, and while it's good it's not worth the money. When you can get the best BBQ I've ever had for about 5-7 bucks paying 20-30 for something not as good is pretty pointless.
Yea "The Pit" in Raleigh was featured on Food Network for their BBQ. While it was decent, it was no where as good as the hole in the wall joint "Coopers" right down the street. I really enjoyed that place. And the owner of the place gave us our meal for free because she liked some $5-$10 bracelet my sister was wearing that day.
(02-17-2015 01:43 PM)JHG722 Wrote: Maybe not compared to places like Dallas, etc., but NYC has pretty damn good BBQ. In addition to Southerners who have moved there, you have wealthy restaurateurs like Stephen Starr who have the time and money to learn the process of what makes BBQ in NC, TX, TN, KS, etc. so great and also hiring people who are from those areas. I know the 'head chef' at Fette Sau in Philly is from NC.
Atlanta has guys with oil drum offset smokers in an empty parking lot. You dont have to be a wealthy restaurateur to make great Q.
In NC, or at least eastern NC, we pretty much just do the whole Hog BBQ. Its much better to me but it's also what I'm used to.
Well I am not going to do a whole Hog everytime I fire up the smoker. LOL
The best in the Dallas area is in McKinney, about 35 miles north of downtown Dallas. Hutchins BBQ is wonderful ... all you can eat (including drink) for $20. Just my opinion from being here for 30 years.
Hard Eight in Coppell is almost as good and slightly more expensive.
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