(03-16-2015 12:54 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Let's see if he gets a chance against Sam Houston State's 6' 11" beast. And, if he does, how well he fairs.

I don't see Gettys being a factor here. While being slow is a detriment, he lacks quickness to be a factor at this level. Many times this year he had the ball in position to score but lacked the quickness to get the shot away. Much smaller players often disrupted the shot. I admire his working hard to lose the weight, and that attitude could greatly benefit CJ at a lower division.

We have a history of big men not getting it until their junior or senior year. If we had taken this giving up on a big man attitude, we would have especially missed out on the player Craig Callahan became. But, I would prefer to leave that decision up to the coaches

(03-16-2015 04:52 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  We have a history of big men not getting it until their junior or senior year. If we had taken this giving up on a big man attitude, we would have especially missed out on the player Craig Callahan became. But, I would prefer to leave that decision up to the coaches

Aaron Coombs too.

Vlad was one of the only ones I saw in my tenure that got it pretty quick into his tenure in a Seahawk uniform.

Different system and different coach than the guy that recruited Gettys is a huge deal.While I agree bigs need a little more time to develope I saw zero inprovement from any big at UNCW this season.

(03-16-2015 04:52 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  We have a history of big men not getting it until their junior or senior year. If we had taken this giving up on a big man attitude, we would have especially missed out on the player Craig Callahan became. But, I would prefer to leave that decision up to the coaches

Judging from your couch doesn't work. CJ made big strides according to what I saw and according to Keatts. Keatts' biggest issue with CJ is that he doesn't yet realize he is 7' tall. His analogy, hypothetically I'm sure, is that CJ started out before the season thinking he was a 6'4" guard. He has mentally grown to 6'7". Now, if Keatts doesn't think he is going to get him to be the 7 footer he should be, there may be a problem. But Keatts must have seen something to put the time in him.

(03-16-2015 07:51 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Different system and different coach than the guy that recruited Gettys is a huge deal.While I agree bigs need a little more time to develope I saw zero inprovement from any big at UNCW this season.

(03-16-2015 04:52 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  We have a history of big men not getting it until their junior or senior year. If we had taken this giving up on a big man attitude, we would have especially missed out on the player Craig Callahan became. But, I would prefer to leave that decision up to the coaches

That's a great point Mullet. Gettys, IMO, would be a big that is a better fit in a half-court game on both sides of the ball. He's not going to give you a lot of good production on a team built to run and gun. I know people hate discussing Carolina around here, but look at Kennedy Meeks. He was a chubby big when he first showed up at UNC and couldn't hardly run the floor at all. He's shaved off some pounds and is now a formidable asset for UNC. That's sort of what Gettys needs to be. Similarly, in my previous post I mentioned Vlad who played at UNCW in the mid 2000s. He was never too much of a "weighty" big, but had a build that allowed him to run the floor a little more.

I think CJ was bailed out a lot this year from our outstanding back court defense. The press allowed for a lot of turnovers early in our opponent's possessions and CJ could rely a lot on the guards getting us points off fast breaks from those TO's.

Who knows though, maybe CJ will have a monster break out game against SHSU and we'll all be stuck with our feet in our mouths. I wouldn't at all mind being wrong on him. I'd love for him to have a junior/senior years campaign like Coombs did, but it's going to look a little different because we're playing a very different style of ball under Coach K.

CJ was still a much better player than last year. He still has a good ways to to go, but he is on the right track. He put in the work and lost 50+ pounds in the off season. I'm sure he can lose more if Keatts wants him to. We already know that Keatts will not keep someone who can't produce for the team. And, so far, Keatts has shown me he can make the right decisions for the team.

And as far as zero improvement from our bigs. We knew Chuck was a work in progress when we got him. And big Ced sacrificed personal stats for the team. Ced was not our goto guy, but he played a very important roll in the success of this team. After working on his foul problems, he ended up 1st in the CAA in blocks, 5th in rebounds and 2nd in offensive boards. And he is leaving on a winning note.

(03-16-2015 08:25 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  And as far as zero improvement from our bigs. We knew Chuck was a work in progress when we got him. And big Ced sacrificed personal stats for the team. Ced was not our goto guy, but he played a very important roll in the success of this team. After working on his foul problems, he ended up 1st in the CAA in blocks, 5th in rebounds and 2nd in offensive boards. And he is leaving on a winning note.

No argument there! Keatts turned this puppy around. Now it's time to put on the spiked collar and let it regulate the neighborhood!

(03-16-2015 08:01 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  This post has zero basketball content.I don't see Keatts helping the bigs at all.Judging from your couch doesn't work. CJ made big strides according to what I saw and according to Keatts. Keatts' biggest issue with CJ is that he doesn't yet realize he is 7' tall. His analogy, hypothetically I'm sure, is that CJ started out before the season thinking he was a 6'4" guard. He has mentally grown to 6'7". Now, if Keatts doesn't think he is going to get him to be the 7 footer he should be, there may be a problem. But Keatts must have seen something to put the time in him.

(03-16-2015 08:42 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 08:25 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Williams senior year was a absolute flop.If he had a decent year they most likely win the CAA and the tournament.And as far as zero improvement from our bigs. We knew Chuck was a work in progress when we got him. And big Ced sacrificed personal stats for the team. Ced was not our goto guy, but he played a very important roll in the success of this team. After working on his foul problems, he ended up 1st in the CAA in blocks, 5th in rebounds and 2nd in offensive boards. And he is leaving on a winning note.

No argument there! Keatts turned this puppy around. Now it's time to put on the spiked collar and let it regulate the neighborhood!

Really??? Williams did what he was asked to do. Keatts could have got him the ball more, yes. He was the goto guy a lot last year. And what was our record? Keatts brought in a different style of play that included more than one or two players. And to say leading the CAA in blocks and at the top in two other categories was an absolute flop, is a bit far fetched. We just broke a nine year drought in the post season. It may just be the CIT, but we didn't get an invite from even them in the past. It's a good start in the right direction.

Damn mullet. You're blending your comments into mine.

(03-17-2015 07:49 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Damn mullet. You're blending your comments into mine.

Haha. I had to read it like 3 times on my phone to figure out what he did there. Too much green drink for the Mullet today maybe?

Surprised you guys noticed!!

(03-17-2015 07:48 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Really??? Williams did what he was asked to do. Keatts could have got him the ball more, yes. He was the goto guy a lot last year. And what was our record? Keatts brought in a different style of play that included more than one or two players. And to say leading the CAA in blocks and at the top in two other categories was an absolute flop, is a bit far fetched. We just broke a nine year drought in the post season. It may just be the CIT, but we didn't get an invite from even them in the past. It's a good start in the right direction.

The guy was picked preseason first team and did not make third team -I would say that pretty much sucked.I get it that Keatts had a winning season and hats off to him.The bigs all played very poorly.

New coach, new system. The preseason pundits had no clue how Ced was going to be played. Just like they had no clue that we would be battling for first place. Those are the same people, right?

C J Gettys reminds me a bit of Matt Fish. As many of you will remember, Matt was also a 7 foot+ guy who played for UNCW in the late 80s/early 90s. His first couple of years, I cringed every time he stepped onto the court. He just didn't have control of that body! By his senior year though he was making very strong contributions on both ends of the court and he wound up playing in the NBA. I could see that happening for CJ in the right setting. For sure, CJ looks better overall than Matt did at this stage of their careers. That said, whether our fast paced team is the right setting for CJ is a good question as several of you have pointed out.

(03-17-2015 10:21 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(03-17-2015 07:48 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Really??? Williams did what he was asked to do. Keatts could have got him the ball more, yes. He was the goto guy a lot last year. And what was our record? Keatts brought in a different style of play that included more than one or two players. And to say leading the CAA in blocks and at the top in two other categories was an absolute flop, is a bit far fetched. We just broke a nine year drought in the post season. It may just be the CIT, but we didn't get an invite from even them in the past. It's a good start in the right direction.

The guy was picked preseason first team and did not make third team -I would say that pretty much sucked.I get it that Keatts had a winning season and hats off to him.The bigs all played very poorly.

As 33 already said, he was used differently under a new coach. Additionally, other players around the conference elevated their game. That's not an indictment on Ced's play. Leading the league in blocks is hardly a "flop". A "flop" indicates absolute terrible play. That's not an accurate depiction of Ced's season.

I would call Ced the ultimate team first player.