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"It's just kind of free flowing, random."
(02-08-2015 04:32 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
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(02-08-2015 03:41 PM)tigergg Wrote:  Banked in a prayer is a goofy thing to say, the guy made a 6 foot facing the basket bank shot with no one on him.. Not even close to being a prayer of a shot..


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If you need the backboard for a 6 foot shot, and your name isn't doom Haynes, then it was a prayer of a shot.

Have you ever played basketball at all?

^^^^ absolutely

We're talking big boy ball, not the game where you granny your free throws in.


And dude had plenty of time to drive to the basket for a layup/dunk versus the backboard prayer he hit.

Yea he knew exactly, while in the heat of the moment, how much time was left and yea lets just drive it right at Godfrey standing under the basket when I have this nice little 6 footer with no one close to me.. Yea that's the ticket!!


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RE: "It's just kind of free flowing, random."
(02-08-2015 04:37 PM)tigergg Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 04:32 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 03:55 PM)450bench Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 03:53 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 03:44 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If you need the backboard for a 6 foot shot, and your name isn't doom Haynes, then it was a prayer of a shot.

Have you ever played basketball at all?

^^^^ absolutely

We're talking big boy ball, not the game where you granny your free throws in.


And dude had plenty of time to drive to the basket for a layup/dunk versus the backboard prayer he hit.

Yea he knew exactly, while in the heat of the moment, how much time was left and yea lets just drive it right at Godfrey standing under the basket when I have this nice little 6 footer with no one close to me.. Yea that's the ticket!!


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RE: "It's just kind of free flowing, random."
(02-08-2015 04:57 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 04:37 PM)tigergg Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 04:32 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 03:55 PM)450bench Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 03:53 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  Have you ever played basketball at all?

^^^^ absolutely

We're talking big boy ball, not the game where you granny your free throws in.


And dude had plenty of time to drive to the basket for a layup/dunk versus the backboard prayer he hit.

Yea he knew exactly, while in the heat of the moment, how much time was left and yea lets just drive it right at Godfrey standing under the basket when I have this nice little 6 footer with no one close to me.. Yea that's the ticket!!


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Some people don't know the first rule of holes. When you find yourself in a hole, quit digging.

Like I said, this is big boy ball. I wouldn't expect you guys who keep pimping pearl to understand.
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RE: "It's just kind of free flowing, random."
(02-08-2015 03:31 PM)tiger86 Wrote:  A coach's job is to ensure no "free flow and randomness", especailly at winning time.

While there will always be some randomness, it's a fair critique here. The primary responsibility of coaching is preparation and motivation.

They looked poorly prepared on that last play.

But, 7 seconds left is the time that sort of break down.

I'd put the failure primarily on preparation there, but I've seen worse. Bad, but not damning, and not the reason we lost. Blowing a 10 point lead at halftime due to a prolonged scoring drought was the big issue here.

Still, they did fight. Very disappointed, but not with their effort...
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"It's just kind of free flowing, random."
He misses the shot, this thread never happens...therefore, dumb thread.
02-08-2015 05:13 PM
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RE: "It's just kind of free flowing, random."
I can't believe he said this. He really, actually said this ?
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RE: "It's just kind of free flowing, random."
(02-08-2015 04:11 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 03:31 PM)tiger86 Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 03:17 PM)fsquid Wrote:  yes, no timeouts, the last 30 seconds was free flowing and random. He's right and our guys did get back, but for some reason Godfrey left his guy and we got beat.

It was not Godfrey's guy. Josh Brown is a guard.

And God only knows why we were out of timeouts.

A coach's job is to ensure no "free flow and randomness", especailly at winning time.


Out of timeouts because Pastner used his last with 1:40 to go. I didn't see the need to use the last then, especially knowing it is a game that will come down to a last shot and a timeout would be crucial.


Maybe out of timeouts because one of our players crossed halfcourt and picked up his dribble allowing himself to be trapped, and called timeout.
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RE: "It's just kind of free flowing, random."
This, folks, is what you call a compound error.

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(02-08-2015 05:08 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 04:57 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 04:37 PM)tigergg Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 04:32 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 03:55 PM)450bench Wrote:  ^^^^ absolutely

We're talking big boy ball, not the game where you granny your free throws in.


And dude had plenty of time to drive to the basket for a layup/dunk versus the backboard prayer he hit.

Yea he knew exactly, while in the heat of the moment, how much time was left and yea lets just drive it right at Godfrey standing under the basket when I have this nice little 6 footer with no one close to me.. Yea that's the ticket!!


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Some people don't know the first rule of holes. When you find yourself in a hole, quit digging.

Like I said, this is big boy ball. I wouldn't expect you guys who keep pimping pearl to understand.
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RE: "It's just kind of free flowing, random."
(02-08-2015 06:28 PM)JhanJo Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 04:11 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 03:31 PM)tiger86 Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 03:17 PM)fsquid Wrote:  yes, no timeouts, the last 30 seconds was free flowing and random. He's right and our guys did get back, but for some reason Godfrey left his guy and we got beat.

It was not Godfrey's guy. Josh Brown is a guard.

And God only knows why we were out of timeouts.

A coach's job is to ensure no "free flow and randomness", especailly at winning time.


Out of timeouts because Pastner used his last with 1:40 to go. I didn't see the need to use the last then, especially knowing it is a game that will come down to a last shot and a timeout would be crucial.


Maybe out of timeouts because one of our players crossed halfcourt and picked up his dribble allowing himself to be trapped, and called timeout.

No.

His LAST timeout was used in the situation described above. Regardless of how or why Memphis was down to their last time out, the fact remained that he used the last one prematurely in a situation that didn't really require a timeout.
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RE: "It's just kind of free flowing, random."
(02-08-2015 07:09 PM)NJ1 Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 03:31 PM)tiger86 Wrote:  And God only knows why we were out of timeouts.

Maybe Pastner reads this board. His first two years here, EVERY armchair coach on these fora was saying things like "what is he saving timeouts for? You have them, use them! He never calls timeouts when we need to stop a run" etc etc etc.


So instead of correcting, he over corrects.

He still hasn't learned to take players out of the game after getting foul #2 in the first half. Almost 200 games into his career.
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RE: "It's just kind of free flowing, random."
(02-08-2015 07:48 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 06:28 PM)JhanJo Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 04:11 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 03:31 PM)tiger86 Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 03:17 PM)fsquid Wrote:  yes, no timeouts, the last 30 seconds was free flowing and random. He's right and our guys did get back, but for some reason Godfrey left his guy and we got beat.

It was not Godfrey's guy. Josh Brown is a guard.

And God only knows why we were out of timeouts.

A coach's job is to ensure no "free flow and randomness", especailly at winning time.


Out of timeouts because Pastner used his last with 1:40 to go. I didn't see the need to use the last then, especially knowing it is a game that will come down to a last shot and a timeout would be crucial.


Maybe out of timeouts because one of our players crossed halfcourt and picked up his dribble allowing himself to be trapped, and called timeout.

No.

His LAST timeout was used in the situation described above. Regardless of how or why Memphis was down to their last time out, the fact remained that he used the last one prematurely in a situation that didn't really require a timeout.

I believe there was less than 1:40 left and we were down 58-56. Our offense had been struggling and the team needed a play. I have no issue with a coach calling his last time out in that situation. I'd hate to miss an opportunity and have Temple go down and score leaving us down 4 with uner a minute to play.

As it turned out, we ran a play that got one of our shooters a decent look. The shot was missed but we still ended up with 2 points on that possession.
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RE: "It's just kind of free flowing, random."
(02-08-2015 03:53 PM)tigergg Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 03:44 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 03:41 PM)tigergg Wrote:  Banked in a prayer is a goofy thing to say, the guy made a 6 foot facing the basket bank shot with no one on him.. Not even close to being a prayer of a shot..


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If you need the backboard for a 6 foot shot, and your name isn't doom Haynes, then it was a prayer of a shot.

Jimminiecrickets you have got to be kidding.. He probably would have made that shot 7 out of 10 times.. And using the backboard from that angle gives it a much better chance of going in, but I guess that guy who shot it was really trying to just swish it, in which he did off the backboard!!


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Ask Tim Duncan if that was a prayer.
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RE: "It's just kind of free flowing, random."
(02-08-2015 04:32 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
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(02-08-2015 03:44 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 03:41 PM)tigergg Wrote:  Banked in a prayer is a goofy thing to say, the guy made a 6 foot facing the basket bank shot with no one on him.. Not even close to being a prayer of a shot..


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If you need the backboard for a 6 foot shot, and your name isn't doom Haynes, then it was a prayer of a shot.

Have you ever played basketball at all?

^^^^ absolutely

We're talking big boy ball, not the game where you granny your free throws in.


And dude had plenty of time to drive to the basket for a layup/dunk versus the backboard prayer he hit.

So you are really stuck on this as being a prayer? No Crawford's chuck to end the game was a prayer. Can you see the difference? You either work for Josh's social media team or just can't see the obvious. You guys are really reaching these days.
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RE: "It's just kind of free flowing, random."
That's almost a layup equivalent for a real D-1 athlete in transition. I mean, it's not for me, but I suck on the floor (worst player at the Brooklyn YMCA - 9 years running!)

But I do get my elbows out, here is a shot of me pregame...

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RE: "It's just kind of free flowing, random."
i thought this was going to be a thread about urinary incontinence.
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(02-09-2015 09:53 AM)tiger-viper Wrote:  i thought this was going to be a thread about urinary incontinence.

Well, the Tigers have pissed away any opportunity to get an at-large bid.

I guess Pookie's development is being pissed away, too.
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RE: "It's just kind of free flowing, random."
I'll be very surprised if Pookie is back next year.

If what I'm hearing is true, he will be one of several that will be looking to transfer out at the end of the season.
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RE: "It's just kind of free flowing, random."
(02-09-2015 10:34 AM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  I'll be very surprised if Pookie is back next year.

If what I'm hearing is true, he will be one of several that will be looking to transfer out at the end of the season.

It will get to the point that we wont be able to field a team. Josh stays and he'll be taking on some more 2 star jucos to fill out the roster.

And I sure hope Nick King isnt one of the ones you're speaking of, b/c that would be awful to see a hometown player like that transfer due to inept coaching.
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RE: "It's just kind of free flowing, random."
(02-08-2015 03:03 PM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  I just listened to post game presser, and that isn't the entire quote.
He said it was hard to get back quickly because the bigs had stick back for in case the last shot didn't fall, but they did stay in front of Cummings. He was just able to make the pass to a guy who, after missing all of his previous shots, banked in a prayer.

Pastner could go 0-30 and you'd still argue that he's the best coach ever. Dude, wake up. Faith in Pastner and the way he runs the program is waning with each season. Look around and let all the empty seats in FEF be your barometer. Apathy has set in, and until he's replaced, it'll only get worse.
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RE: "It's just kind of free flowing, random."
(02-08-2015 03:41 PM)tigergg Wrote:  Banked in a prayer is a goofy thing to say, the guy made a 6 foot facing the basket bank shot with no one on him.. Not even close to being a prayer of a shot..


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The Temple player wasn't even looking at the basket when he started his jump; probably thought there was almost no time on the clock and caught the ball, jumped and shot in one motion. He probably practices that shot once in a blue moon during practice.

Goofy to say it was an easy shot...except if you hate Pastner and will try to find every excuse in the book to criticize him. The basket happened because 3 of our players inexplicably didn't hustle back after the made basket. Part of that is on the coaches for having them prepared for that scenario, and part is on the players themselves for not having the sense to race back after the basket.
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