(01-26-2015 01:31 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 12:42 PM)galojah Wrote:  Depending who "next in line" for a CUSA invite, the conference could extend a bid on 6/30/2014 and it would be accepted same day. This would be the case for Ga State, UL-Lafayette, Texas State, etc. So waiting until June doesn't change the timeline of getting a new team by 2016. With as much expansion and replacement work that has been done, I am sure the conference has an entire file cabinet on every candidate.

Based on what I've heard....my sources say Ga. State is not on the list.

I had heard that they were on the "list" at one time, but that talk has "cooled"

(01-26-2015 10:31 PM)winston70 Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 09:36 PM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 04:42 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 04:10 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Rajun Cajuns.

As for the two possible "Ohio" Mac schools....I was guessing Akron or Toledo. With that being said, there was an Ohio University fan on here in the last couple weeks that stated they were one of the schools in talks with CUSA. Cant say if that is accurate or not.

Strictly from a geography standpoint, Ohio and Miami would be my preference. They're not as far into the "frozen north" as all the other MAC schools. Both are in Southern Ohio. Easy drives for WKU and Marshall fans.

Of course, neither may be interested and for that matter, CUSA may not be interested.

The problem with UL-L is La Tech. The problem with TX State might be that there are four other Texas schools. It seems to me that if it's a school in Ohio nobody would have many objections because they don't infringe on anyone's turf. Just my opinion.

I agree we really need to add a new state if possible and I think ARK ST should be considered

Thought they weren't interested ?

If not UAB, then USA ? Or does USM object ?

I had heard at the last go 'round that USA didn't think they were ready (at that time).

Speaking of USA, what in the hades has happened to their once proud hoops team ? Nice arena too.

(01-25-2015 11:21 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

"Effect" is also a verb, albeit a strange one.

This is probably wise for C-USA. Gives UAB more time, and gives the league more time to figure out the next move.

(01-26-2015 10:03 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  Replacing UAB with an eastern school makes no sense whatsoever. If that happened, someone is going to have to shift to the West, and WKU or MTSU aren't going to do that. ULL is the obvious choice right now. They fit the geography and have invested heavily in athletics infrastructure. There are enough Texas schools, and even if there weren't, Texas State isn't quite ready yet. If UAB can't decide to bring back football by June, then replace them with ULL. Louisiana Tech will just have to deal with it.

I think ULL is certainly the front runner. With that being said, If one of the Ohio Mac schools is high on the list for CUSA they will find a way to make it work. I've always been an advocate of having one permanent cross division rival that you play every year. If that were reality, you could put MTSU over on the West side with a permanent cross division rival with WKU for football. I cant imagine that would be a bad scenario.

(01-26-2015 11:46 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 10:03 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  Replacing UAB with an eastern school makes no sense whatsoever. If that happened, someone is going to have to shift to the West, and WKU or MTSU aren't going to do that. ULL is the obvious choice right now. They fit the geography and have invested heavily in athletics infrastructure. There are enough Texas schools, and even if there weren't, Texas State isn't quite ready yet. If UAB can't decide to bring back football by June, then replace them with ULL. Louisiana Tech will just have to deal with it.

I think ULL is certainly the front runner. With that being said, If one of the Ohio Mac schools is high on the list for CUSA they will find a way to make it work. I've always been an advocate of having one permanent cross division rival that you play every year. If that were reality, you could put MTSU over on the West side with a permanent cross division rival with WKU for football. I cant imagine that would be a bad scenario.

Move WESTern KY over there with us as their permanent rival.

(01-25-2015 11:21 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  From the article linked to above: One of the quotes from one of the C-USA ADs:

"But don’t expect any final decisions on some major issues facing the conference this week, MTSU athletics director Chris Massaro said.

“There is going to be a couple of major issues that we’re going to discuss,” Massaro said. “One is the autonomy and paying cost of attendance. … Then the other one is UAB.”"

There is going to be a couple??? Disappointing if that is not a misquote. The degradation of language among leaders and administrators is disheartening to say the least. Mr. Massario, respectfully, there are going to be a couple of major issues. And English is apparently one of them.

Now why don't you break down the word "arrogance" for all of us, professor?

(01-26-2015 10:31 PM)winston70 Wrote:  I agree we really need to add a new state if possible and I think ARK ST should be considered

Georgia is a state without any C-USA involvement. Most C-USA members (I would guess all of them except for UTEP and UTSA) have a significant alumni presence there.

(01-27-2015 12:22 AM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 11:46 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 10:03 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  Replacing UAB with an eastern school makes no sense whatsoever. If that happened, someone is going to have to shift to the West, and WKU or MTSU aren't going to do that. ULL is the obvious choice right now. They fit the geography and have invested heavily in athletics infrastructure. There are enough Texas schools, and even if there weren't, Texas State isn't quite ready yet. If UAB can't decide to bring back football by June, then replace them with ULL. Louisiana Tech will just have to deal with it.

I think ULL is certainly the front runner. With that being said, If one of the Ohio Mac schools is high on the list for CUSA they will find a way to make it work. I've always been an advocate of having one permanent cross division rival that you play every year. If that were reality, you could put MTSU over on the West side with a permanent cross division rival with WKU for football. I cant imagine that would be a bad scenario.

Move WESTern KY over there with us as their permanent rival.

It's very touching to see MTSU offering to give up its potential-place in the Western division to WKU.

Actually, if C-USA added another "eastern" team, then WKU and MTSU could alternate East and West every two years. Or WKU, MTSU, and the new-kid could each be in the East for 2x3 of the time, and in the West for 1x3 of the time.

(01-26-2015 10:38 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 10:31 PM)winston70 Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 09:36 PM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 04:42 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 04:10 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Rajun Cajuns.

As for the two possible "Ohio" Mac schools....I was guessing Akron or Toledo. With that being said, there was an Ohio University fan on here in the last couple weeks that stated they were one of the schools in talks with CUSA. Cant say if that is accurate or not.

Strictly from a geography standpoint, Ohio and Miami would be my preference. They're not as far into the "frozen north" as all the other MAC schools. Both are in Southern Ohio. Easy drives for WKU and Marshall fans.

Of course, neither may be interested and for that matter, CUSA may not be interested.

The problem with UL-L is La Tech. The problem with TX State might be that there are four other Texas schools. It seems to me that if it's a school in Ohio nobody would have many objections because they don't infringe on anyone's turf. Just my opinion.

I agree we really need to add a new state if possible and I think ARK ST should be considered

Thought they weren't interested ?

If not UAB, then USA ? Or does USM object ?

I had heard at the last go 'round that USA didn't think they were ready (at that time).

Speaking of USA, what in the hades has happened to their once proud hoops team ? Nice arena too.

We're not going to publicly declare interest in CUSA...no. That's not our style. In fact if anyone asks, we'd probably list out all the advantages to remaining in the SBC and proclaim our lack of interest in making lateral moves.

Would we accept an invite? Well, that depends on the TV contract. Rest assured, there's been communication between the two sides. Karl Benson ensures we won't directly say No thanks.

(01-26-2015 10:38 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Speaking of USA, what in the hades has happened to their once proud hoops team ? Nice arena too.

Graves getting his style players in and dealing with lack of depth. Had attitude problems from players last year, and this year we have 7 players on rotation. Should be much better next year but you know how that goes.

(01-27-2015 01:51 AM)Tiguar Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 10:38 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Speaking of USA, what in the hades has happened to their once proud hoops team ? Nice arena too.

Graves getting his style players in and dealing with lack of depth. Had attitude problems from players last year, and this year we have 7 players on rotation. Should be much better next year but you know how that goes.

The USA guards are very good this year.

(01-27-2015 12:52 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 12:22 AM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 11:46 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 10:03 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  Replacing UAB with an eastern school makes no sense whatsoever. If that happened, someone is going to have to shift to the West, and WKU or MTSU aren't going to do that. ULL is the obvious choice right now. They fit the geography and have invested heavily in athletics infrastructure. There are enough Texas schools, and even if there weren't, Texas State isn't quite ready yet. If UAB can't decide to bring back football by June, then replace them with ULL. Louisiana Tech will just have to deal with it.

I think ULL is certainly the front runner. With that being said, If one of the Ohio Mac schools is high on the list for CUSA they will find a way to make it work. I've always been an advocate of having one permanent cross division rival that you play every year. If that were reality, you could put MTSU over on the West side with a permanent cross division rival with WKU for football. I cant imagine that would be a bad scenario.

Move WESTern KY over there with us as their permanent rival.

It's very touching to see MTSU offering to give up its potential-place in the Western division to WKU.

Actually, if C-USA added another "eastern" team, then WKU and MTSU could alternate East and West every two years. Or WKU, MTSU, and the new-kid could each be in the East for 2x3 of the time, and in the West for 1x3 of the time.

Looking at a map it looks like the 2 Florida schools could easily be split up while making sure they play each other in cross division games. The rest of the east and west divisions are both a long haul for FIU and FAU so it really wouldn't matter which division they are in. Each division would then have a strong connection to the state of Florida.

Probably need to keep FIU and FAU in the same division. While getting to south Florida is a flight for everyone, once you get there it is very economical to play both teams on the same trip. But, you are correct, they could essentially be in any division because it is a flight, regardless, for everyone.

(01-27-2015 08:30 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 12:52 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 12:22 AM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 11:46 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 10:03 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  Replacing UAB with an eastern school makes no sense whatsoever. If that happened, someone is going to have to shift to the West, and WKU or MTSU aren't going to do that. ULL is the obvious choice right now. They fit the geography and have invested heavily in athletics infrastructure. There are enough Texas schools, and even if there weren't, Texas State isn't quite ready yet. If UAB can't decide to bring back football by June, then replace them with ULL. Louisiana Tech will just have to deal with it.

I think ULL is certainly the front runner. With that being said, If one of the Ohio Mac schools is high on the list for CUSA they will find a way to make it work. I've always been an advocate of having one permanent cross division rival that you play every year. If that were reality, you could put MTSU over on the West side with a permanent cross division rival with WKU for football. I cant imagine that would be a bad scenario.

Move WESTern KY over there with us as their permanent rival.

It's very touching to see MTSU offering to give up its potential-place in the Western division to WKU.

Actually, if C-USA added another "eastern" team, then WKU and MTSU could alternate East and West every two years. Or WKU, MTSU, and the new-kid could each be in the East for 2x3 of the time, and in the West for 1x3 of the time.

Looking at a map it looks like the 2 Florida schools could easily be split up while making sure they play each other in cross division games. The rest of the east and west divisions are both a long haul for FIU and FAU so it really wouldn't matter which division they are in. Each division would then have a strong connection to the state of Florida.

That defeats the whole purpose of creating divisions. A school in the east belongs in the East division, a school in the west belongs in the West. Why do that to FIU, or anyone else for that matter?

(01-27-2015 12:49 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 10:31 PM)winston70 Wrote:  I agree we really need to add a new state if possible and I think ARK ST should be considered

Georgia is a state without any C-USA involvement. Most C-USA members (I would guess all of them except for UTEP and UTSA) have a significant alumni presence there.

Marshall has a large Alumni base in Georgia as well but that doesnt mean they would be the best school for CUSA.

(01-27-2015 08:30 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 12:52 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 12:22 AM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 11:46 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 10:03 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  Replacing UAB with an eastern school makes no sense whatsoever. If that happened, someone is going to have to shift to the West, and WKU or MTSU aren't going to do that. ULL is the obvious choice right now. They fit the geography and have invested heavily in athletics infrastructure. There are enough Texas schools, and even if there weren't, Texas State isn't quite ready yet. If UAB can't decide to bring back football by June, then replace them with ULL. Louisiana Tech will just have to deal with it.

I think ULL is certainly the front runner. With that being said, If one of the Ohio Mac schools is high on the list for CUSA they will find a way to make it work. I've always been an advocate of having one permanent cross division rival that you play every year. If that were reality, you could put MTSU over on the West side with a permanent cross division rival with WKU for football. I cant imagine that would be a bad scenario.

Move WESTern KY over there with us as their permanent rival.

It's very touching to see MTSU offering to give up its potential-place in the Western division to WKU.

Actually, if C-USA added another "eastern" team, then WKU and MTSU could alternate East and West every two years. Or WKU, MTSU, and the new-kid could each be in the East for 2x3 of the time, and in the West for 1x3 of the time.

Looking at a map it looks like the 2 Florida schools could easily be split up while making sure they play each other in cross division games. The rest of the east and west divisions are both a long haul for FIU and FAU so it really wouldn't matter which division they are in. Each division would then have a strong connection to the state of Florida.

That could be an option.

(01-27-2015 10:28 AM)Afflicted Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 08:30 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 12:52 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 12:22 AM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 11:46 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  I think ULL is certainly the front runner. With that being said, If one of the Ohio Mac schools is high on the list for CUSA they will find a way to make it work. I've always been an advocate of having one permanent cross division rival that you play every year. If that were reality, you could put MTSU over on the West side with a permanent cross division rival with WKU for football. I cant imagine that would be a bad scenario.

Move WESTern KY over there with us as their permanent rival.

It's very touching to see MTSU offering to give up its potential-place in the Western division to WKU.

Actually, if C-USA added another "eastern" team, then WKU and MTSU could alternate East and West every two years. Or WKU, MTSU, and the new-kid could each be in the East for 2x3 of the time, and in the West for 1x3 of the time.

Looking at a map it looks like the 2 Florida schools could easily be split up while making sure they play each other in cross division games. The rest of the east and west divisions are both a long haul for FIU and FAU so it really wouldn't matter which division they are in. Each division would then have a strong connection to the state of Florida.

That defeats the whole purpose of creating divisions. A school in the east belongs in the East division, a school in the west belongs in the West. Why do that to FIU, or anyone else for that matter?

Because the travel would be the same for them regardless and they can still play each other as permanent crossovers. Basketball trips can still get the 2 for 1 trip since there really aren't divisions for basketball.

(01-26-2015 10:31 PM)winston70 Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 09:36 PM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 04:42 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 04:10 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Rajun Cajuns.

As for the two possible "Ohio" Mac schools....I was guessing Akron or Toledo. With that being said, there was an Ohio University fan on here in the last couple weeks that stated they were one of the schools in talks with CUSA. Cant say if that is accurate or not.

Strictly from a geography standpoint, Ohio and Miami would be my preference. They're not as far into the "frozen north" as all the other MAC schools. Both are in Southern Ohio. Easy drives for WKU and Marshall fans.

Of course, neither may be interested and for that matter, CUSA may not be interested.

The problem with UL-L is La Tech. The problem with TX State might be that there are four other Texas schools. It seems to me that if it's a school in Ohio nobody would have many objections because they don't infringe on anyone's turf. Just my opinion.

I agree we really need to add a new state if possible and I think ARK ST should be considered

LaTech fans make me chuckle.

(01-27-2015 02:16 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 10:28 AM)Afflicted Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 08:30 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 12:52 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 12:22 AM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote:  Move WESTern KY over there with us as their permanent rival.

It's very touching to see MTSU offering to give up its potential-place in the Western division to WKU.

Actually, if C-USA added another "eastern" team, then WKU and MTSU could alternate East and West every two years. Or WKU, MTSU, and the new-kid could each be in the East for 2x3 of the time, and in the West for 1x3 of the time.

Looking at a map it looks like the 2 Florida schools could easily be split up while making sure they play each other in cross division games. The rest of the east and west divisions are both a long haul for FIU and FAU so it really wouldn't matter which division they are in. Each division would then have a strong connection to the state of Florida.

That defeats the whole purpose of creating divisions. A school in the east belongs in the East division, a school in the west belongs in the West. Why do that to FIU, or anyone else for that matter?

Because the travel would be the same for them regardless and they can still play each other as permanent crossovers. Basketball trips can still get the 2 for 1 trip since there really aren't divisions for basketball.

Good points.

Miner in Wisconsin is right.Football would be the only sport with FAU or FIU in the west division.I think it would work great.What is the opinion of the FL. schools ?