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1/25/14 If the Tourney Started Today...
Monroe has faltered, dropping two straight to the Mavs and Georgia Southern, giving the Eagles the number one spot in the conference. However, the Warhawks along with UTA and Georgia State are still nipping at Georgia Southern's heels.

Despite not being eligible for the post season, that hasn't stopped the the Mountaineers from playing the spoiler role, who have turned hot winning their last 4 games. The Bobcats, who at one point was sitting comfortably at 6th, has dropped 4 straight and now are barely clinging to the last seed, trying to fight off an inconsistent yet pesky Red Wolves squad.

Without further adieu, here's the latest standings, and possible match ups with my games to watch out for this week.

(***Keep in mind, while App State is technically 6th in the standings, with them being ineligible, teams actually bump up to replace them. So by fault, South Al actually would be the 6th seed, Texas State 7th and Astate would move into the last spot at 8th)***


1/25/15 SBC STANDINGS
1.Georgia Southern
2.Georgia St
3.UT-Arlington
4.UL Monroe
5.UL Lafayette
6.South Alabama
7.Texas State
8.Arkansas State

OUT: (9) Troy, (10) UALR, (11) **App State**


Current Matchups

#5 La-La vs #8 Astate (Winner Plays #4 ULM)

#6 South Al vs #7 Texas State (Winner Plays #UTA)

#1 Georgia Southern and #2 Georgia State gets the double BYE


This Thursday, is rivalry week for both Arkansas schools as well as the Eagles and Mountaineers. While the UALR and ASU game will be battle of the bottom feeders, App State could play spoiler once again and knock the Eagles off their perch and giving the Warhawks and Mavericks a chance to catch back up.

Saturday doesn't really offer a big time "seeding match up"; the closest to that is the game between the Cajuns and Bobcats. If Louisiana Lafayette wins, it can get them right back in the race for top standing position (especially how the other games go down this week); Even if Texas State can pull it out, it would take a south Al lost for them to jump them and even then it would probably be at best at 6th


WOMEN:

UALR women's team continues to dominate, remaining undefeated in the belt and sitting atop at 16-2 overall. Lady Red Wolves stumbled this past week, losing to the lady Ragin Cajuns on the road, but were able to beat Troy and remain in second. The showdown between UALR and ASU will be this Thursday

For the most part, the standings remain the same with the exception of Texas State overtaking Troy for 3rd (Troy 4th), Lady Mountaineers to 6th from 7th, and ULM going from looking outside of the tournament to 7th. Here's the latest standings with potential match-ups!

Women's Standings and Seedings:
1. UALR
2. Astate
3. Texas State
4. Troy
5. La-La
6. App State
7. ULM
8. UTA

OUT:
(9) Georgia State, (10) Georgia Southern, (11) South Al

Seeding:
#1 UALR vs #8 UTA

#4 Troy vs #5 LA-LA

#2 Astate vs #7 ULM

#3 Texas State vs #6 App State
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RE: 1/25/14 If the Tourney Started Today...
For the record, Arkansas State would be ahead of Texas State right now. We both have the same record, and Texas State is one of our two D1 victims at the Convo. We'd be 7, Bobcats 8
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Why does the women's tournament have a normal format, and the men have such an unnecessarily complex one?
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(01-25-2015 04:38 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  Why does the women's tournament have a normal format, and the men have such an unnecessarily complex one?

Men's tournament went through a several year history where a 5 seed or lower won the tournament, and we ended up in a play in or 16 seed situation.

Coaches decided to reward the best teams with a double bye to try and improve our chances of getting extra NCAA units. Women do not have this issue because the 1 or 2 seed has won the tournament something like the last 7 years now.
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(01-25-2015 04:28 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  For the record, Arkansas State would be ahead of Texas State right now. We both have the same record, and Texas State is one of our two D1 victims at the Convo. We'd be 7, Bobcats 8

I'm pretty sure they're ahead of us because even though we did beat them and we have the same conference record, the fact they have one more overall win than us would put them at 7th by default
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(01-25-2015 05:22 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  
(01-25-2015 04:28 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  For the record, Arkansas State would be ahead of Texas State right now. We both have the same record, and Texas State is one of our two D1 victims at the Convo. We'd be 7, Bobcats 8

I'm pretty sure they're ahead of us because even though we did beat them and we have the same conference record, the fact they have one more overall win than us would put them at 7th by default

Overall wins is not a Sun Belt Tiebreaker. Otherwise teams would just schedule the easiest OOC games possible just to finish first.

League lists by overall wins, but when it's actually tourney time, head to head is the first tiebreak.
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I just wish my team was better...........03-banghead
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A lot of ball to be played but I am liking what I am seeing out of GS so far.
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(01-25-2015 05:45 PM)Usajags Wrote:  I just wish my team was better...........03-banghead

Yea, we just lost, badly, to New Jersey Institute of Technology, at home, to complete our zero for season versus out of conference D1 competition.

Whatever Graves is doing, I'm not seeing it as working.
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This is a really bad league this year.
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(01-25-2015 05:55 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(01-25-2015 05:45 PM)Usajags Wrote:  I just wish my team was better...........03-banghead

Yea, we just lost, badly, to New Jersey Institute of Technology, at home, to complete our zero for season versus out of conference D1 competition.

Whatever Graves is doing, I'm not seeing it as working.

We lost spectacular fashion as if the team thought we were only playing for 30 minutes. To have been up at the half and lose that way is very discouraging.
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(01-25-2015 06:06 PM)Usajags Wrote:  
(01-25-2015 05:55 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(01-25-2015 05:45 PM)Usajags Wrote:  I just wish my team was better...........03-banghead

Yea, we just lost, badly, to New Jersey Institute of Technology, at home, to complete our zero for season versus out of conference D1 competition.

Whatever Graves is doing, I'm not seeing it as working.

We lost spectacular fashion as if the team thought we were only playing for 30 minutes. To have been up at the half and lose that way is very discouraging.

Yea. This is unacceptable for USA basketball. Lets review Graves' tenure at USA. Year 1. Didn't even qualify for the Sun Belt tournament. Year 2. No wins out of conference against D1 competition. This is epic suckage.
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If you go by RPI the league this year is basically the same as last year. The Sun Belt finished I think #19 last year. We are #20 right now.
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A newcomer is at the top of the standings, so the league must be down.
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(01-26-2015 09:19 AM)GSUhooligan Wrote:  A newcomer is at the top of the standings, so the league must be down.

Hopefully the league is down in baseball too.
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Quote:This is unacceptable for USA basketball. Lets review Graves' tenure at USA. Year 1. Didn't even qualify for the Sun Belt tournament. Year 2. No wins out of conference against D1 competition. This is epic suckage.


Terrible year but we're starting two freshman and a sophomore. This year is a wash and next year will be so-so. Unfortunately we won't see winning basketball until 2017. But that's what happens when you bring in a new coach and he has to clean house and start over. The Jags are in good hands with Graves.
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(01-26-2015 11:01 AM)MobileBama Wrote:  
Quote:This is unacceptable for USA basketball. Lets review Graves' tenure at USA. Year 1. Didn't even qualify for the Sun Belt tournament. Year 2. No wins out of conference against D1 competition. This is epic suckage.


Terrible year but we're starting two freshman and a sophomore. This year is a wash and next year will be so-so. Unfortunately we won't see winning basketball until 2017. But that's what happens when you bring in a new coach and he has to clean house and start over. The Jags are in good hands with Graves.

I agree. I see good things in this team. They are just really young and have no depth, which is a bad combination. We play really well until they get tired with 5 minutes left in the game and lose focus. When we finally have our depth, and Graves fills the roster with his guys, we should be a good team.
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I didn't realize App was not eligible. What's the reason?

Guess that helps our chances. After feeling pretty good a couple weeks ago I'm concerned about our ability to beat anyone anymore. Hopefully Wes Davis isn't out long.
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(01-26-2015 01:19 PM)_x_ Wrote:  I didn't realize App was not eligible. What's the reason?

Guess that helps our chances. After feeling pretty good a couple weeks ago I'm concerned about our ability to beat anyone anymore. Hopefully Wes Davis isn't out long.

App is under APR sanctions because Jeff Capel attempted to run them into the ground.
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