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RE: Ethics and beating a high school team 161-2.
(01-25-2015 12:40 AM)mtmedlin Wrote: You step into the ring with mike tyson you dont get pissed that he knocked you out. What do they expect, for him to play patty cake to help you look decent. You dont want to get blown out, then i expect you to not suck. Life isnt fair and sprinkles are for winners (Flo)
I mean seriously when did we become a nation of candy asses that want everyone to get a ribbon? I like winners. We hire winners. We love and adore winners. So somewhere along the line we tell people to be less then who they can be in order to spare someone else the hurt feelings that they suck. Heres a newsflash, when I fire someone for sucking, and hire a winner as a replacement there is no ribbon or backup reward. Our nation is built upon an economic model of competition and what has killed us is this nice guy BS. Not everyone can be good at something they like. Theres nothing wrong with a good solid dose of reality smacking you up side the head and saying "congratulations princess, you need to work harder".
My first two years of playing basketball we went 0-12 and then 1-11. My last two we won back to back league titles. There were trophies for the winners and a whole big basket of work harder for the losers. It built character and I am proud that I got my ass kicked so I could experience being at the top one day. Failure will either drive you or destroy you... and I hire the ones that did the first and not the last.
Nobody said the losing team needs a ribbon. You are confusing the argument with this statement. You can still win and play hard to the end but come on man, full court pressing when you are up 100??? That's bush league and it's total BS.
It's like in football...when you are up big with the ball late in the fourth quarter, unless you are a major dbag, you run the ball over and over. You don't come out in a five wide shotgun. Now, if running the ball over and over in the final minutes is still getting you yards and you score, so be it, but you don't look like a dbag in the process.
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Ethics and beating a high school team 161-2.
(01-22-2015 10:47 PM)sfink16 Wrote: (01-22-2015 10:19 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/23321...assive-win
... A girls high school basketball game in San Bernadino, California, that finished with a 159-point margin of victory (161-2) for Arroyo Valley High School over Bloomington High School Jan. 5 led to a two-game suspension for its coach, Michael Anderson.
He tried to slow the onslaught by benching his starters at halftime and telling his reserves to burn the shot clock before trying to score. A running clock isn't allowed until the fourth quarter under current high school rules....
... Chung still wasn't pleased with the lack of sportsmanship, though. He made his feeling crystal clear in a report from Pete Marshall of The San Bernardino County Sun.
"People shouldn't feel sorry for my team. They should feel sorry for his team, which isn't learning the game the right way," he said.
He also questioned Anderson's approach.
"I've known him for about seven years... He's a great X's and O's coach. Ethically? Not so much," he said. "He knows what he did was wrong."...
I had posted this in another thread, coming from a different source. The most amusing part is this quote:
Quote:Changes would likely have to come from the top of regional high school basketball hubs. A solution where games that are no longer competitive don't turn into these type of stories. Perhaps something along the lines of stopping scorekeeping at halftime.
Perhaps we should penalize the student who achieves a perfect 1600 on their SATs. After all, its not fair to the students who didn't study or work hard enough to succeed too.
Don't you think we should hold back the research doctor who is trying to cure certain types of cancer and is way ahead of everyone else in his/her field. That research doctor surely should have to wait for other doctors to catch up to him/her so they too can receives the accolades.
It is thinking like this that has weakened our advancement in field after field compared to other countries. It also shows why the hardest working, and fastest growing, minority in this country (Asians) are the most successful.
Amen the everyone gets a trophy entitled generation is killing the US
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RE: Ethics and beating a high school team 161-2.
So much gray area where common sense resides in between everybody wins and crush an opponent beyond recognition. Especially in amateur sports.
The Tyson analogy is amusing since boxing is one of a few professional sports that does basically utilize a mercy rule. Tyson continuing to pummel a pseudo conscious opponent would be just as useful a tuneup for the next match as this body bag game was preparation for league play.
The more I think about it, the more absurd that particular justification becomes.
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01-25-2015 05:04 PM |
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RE: Ethics and beating a high school team 161-2.
It is highly probable that the girls from the losing team had no desire to even be competing in the first place.
I know from first hand experience that my step-daughter hated playing basketball when her mother signed her up to play. We didn't know it at the time.
Maybe the parents should ask the kids if they really want to play and compete. It can save a lot of heartache later in life if an honest discussion is in order.
My guess is that the girls on the losing team are only there for their parents, not because they want to be there.
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RE: Ethics and beating a high school team 161-2.
These idiotic responses make internet message boards with guys screaming about how 18 year olds suck on the court and on the field make perfect sense. This ain't rocket science. That coach was an ass clown.
(This post was last modified: 01-25-2015 07:18 PM by rath v2.0.)
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RE: Ethics and beating a high school team 161-2.
Was John Jenkins coaching the winning team?
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01-25-2015 07:45 PM |
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RE: Ethics and beating a high school team 161-2.
I'm sorry, but if you suck so bad as to only score 2 points in an entire basketball game then you can't blame the other team keeping on keeping on. The winning team not trying is about as bad the losing team sucking it up.
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01-25-2015 08:15 PM |
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RE: Ethics and beating a high school team 161-2.
Not always. Some situations in sports are like the bodybuilder clubbing a defenseless baby. At a certain point, it's time to ease up.
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01-25-2015 09:55 PM |
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RE: Ethics and beating a high school team 161-2.
Lol I remember when we beat SMU 95-21 in football and also beat Tulsa 100-6 in football.
(This post was last modified: 01-26-2015 08:57 AM by Farmer Jack.)
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01-26-2015 08:56 AM |
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RE: Ethics and beating a high school team 161-2.
95-21 was honestly taking it easy on them. Assuming SMU wouldn't resort to taking cheap shots--a major assumption-- and if John Jenkins was the head coach and not just the OC, the final score probably would have been something like 150-0 or worse.
(This post was last modified: 01-27-2015 09:25 PM by C2__.)
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01-27-2015 09:25 PM |
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RE: Ethics and beating a high school team 161-2.
The point is That at some point the coach with the vastly superior team has to realize that he needs to teach his kids more than the X's & o's and teach his kids to win with class. We always say that sports reaches life lessons, well that was a time to show it....
With that said, the coach of the losing team needs to learn how to lose with class as well..
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