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RE: No thread on the SBC being dead last this year in the G5 rankings?
(01-21-2015 11:50 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: (01-20-2015 11:08 PM)HerdZoned Wrote: (01-20-2015 09:58 AM)NCeagle Wrote: exactly. Going 10-2 multiple years, while having 1 P5 win a year and 1P5 loss a year goes a lot further than Marshall's crap schedule which got them zero respect this year.
Still got us something no SB school has ever done. A Top 25 ranking and a Final Top 25 ranking.
Top 25 Final Poll:
Coaches 22
AP 23
And if Louisville would have stayed on the schedule, Im confident it would have been somewhere between 12-16.
If Georgia Southern had scheduled such powers as Miami (OH), Ohio, Akron, and Rhode Island, I'm pretty sure the Eagles would have been ranked as well.
The SBC never ends up ranked because we always play at least one money game in Nonconference...and usually that game is against the SEC. That makes it difficult.
This, Marshall's OOC was a joke. Put two weak MAC teams in place of two P5's and we are ranked at 11-1
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RE: No thread on the SBC being dead last this year in the G5 rankings?
(01-21-2015 04:17 PM)HerdZoned Wrote: (01-21-2015 11:50 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: (01-20-2015 11:08 PM)HerdZoned Wrote: (01-20-2015 09:58 AM)NCeagle Wrote: exactly. Going 10-2 multiple years, while having 1 P5 win a year and 1P5 loss a year goes a lot further than Marshall's crap schedule which got them zero respect this year.
Still got us something no SB school has ever done. A Top 25 ranking and a Final Top 25 ranking.
Top 25 Final Poll:
Coaches 22
AP 23
And if Louisville would have stayed on the schedule, Im confident it would have been somewhere between 12-16.
If Georgia Southern had scheduled such powers as Miami (OH), Ohio, Akron, and Rhode Island, I'm pretty sure the Eagles would have been ranked as well.
The SBC never ends up ranked because we always play at least one money game in Nonconference...and usually that game is against the SEC. That makes it difficult.
Playing 1 and done's are dumb unless you just can't pay the bills. And if you are that strapped for cash you really shouldn't be IA anyway then.
Going on the road to play a million dollar game against Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss and Florida only to get your head kicked in to the tune of 66-0 (Troy UGA score) isn't smart.
There are plenty of schools out there in what is considered the P5s that will do 1-1s. In the next few years Marshall will have 1-1s with NC State and Pitt and will finish up a 1-1 with Purdue next year and Louisville in 2016.
The only reason RI was on the schedule was because Louisville moved the game this year. They were suppose to be in Huntington. But they had to move a game and they weren't moving Kentucky, home game Murrary State or a free win at FIU.
Marshall tried to get a better IAA in and no one in the IAA Top 25 or anyone that thought they had a shot at the playoffs was coming to Huntington to take a beating this year.
As I said our schedule still gave us something no SB team has ever done a Top 25 ranking and Final Top 25 Ranking.
Not dumb if you want any type of respect for your OOC schedule, fan interest, attendance, proving your ranking etc etc
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RE: No thread on the SBC being dead last this year in the G5 rankings?
(01-19-2015 12:26 PM)Crump1 Wrote: Once again, makes little difference financially and nobody gave us credit for finishing first last year. Reinforces that the key is still for individual schools to schedule strategically to get a shot at the contract bowl slot.
Agree. Unless you do it for a ton of consecutive years probably not going to get any pub or cred. No doubt our conference needs to improve especially the bottom of the conference (Idaho, NMSU, and Idaho) but again we play more SEC games than anyone and it just so happened our worst teams played the most G5 OOC games I believe (including early season App). Now if our best teams played the most G5 and our worst played the most P5 games I doubt we are lowest rated this year. It is just how things fall sometimes when we continue to play two money games a year.
Barring another realignment I believe in about two to three years the Belt is going to be a ton more stable and way stronger and will hang with any G5.
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RE: No thread on the SBC being dead last this year in the G5 rankings?
(01-21-2015 05:33 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: I think people see a drop off of what the SBC did the three years previous, but yes we aren't close to having the worst year as a conference. In fact it was the 5th best year from a winning % perspective.
2002 - 2014 winning %
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42% - 2014
But you are comparing a lot of 11 game seasons to 12 games and with that 12th game mostly FCS schools.
The biggest difference between this season and last year .....
NMST & IDAHO but without those two some of you would have 1 or 2 less wins. But overall that's the biggest difference
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RE: No thread on the SBC being dead last this year in the G5 rankings?
(01-21-2015 07:23 PM)JCGSU Wrote: (01-21-2015 11:50 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: (01-20-2015 11:08 PM)HerdZoned Wrote: (01-20-2015 09:58 AM)NCeagle Wrote: exactly. Going 10-2 multiple years, while having 1 P5 win a year and 1P5 loss a year goes a lot further than Marshall's crap schedule which got them zero respect this year.
Still got us something no SB school has ever done. A Top 25 ranking and a Final Top 25 ranking.
Top 25 Final Poll:
Coaches 22
AP 23
And if Louisville would have stayed on the schedule, Im confident it would have been somewhere between 12-16.
If Georgia Southern had scheduled such powers as Miami (OH), Ohio, Akron, and Rhode Island, I'm pretty sure the Eagles would have been ranked as well.
The SBC never ends up ranked because we always play at least one money game in Nonconference...and usually that game is against the SEC. That makes it difficult.
This, Marshall's OOC was a joke. Put two weak MAC teams in place of two P5's and we are ranked at 11-1
But you didn't and all of us could play the IF game...
if we made one more play if we didn't schedule so and so. Marshall played their schedule just as all of us did and with that ended up in the top 25...
those are the fact without the IFSSSSSSSS
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RE: No thread on the SBC being dead last this year in the G5 rankings?
(01-21-2015 07:23 PM)JCGSU Wrote: (01-21-2015 11:50 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: (01-20-2015 11:08 PM)HerdZoned Wrote: (01-20-2015 09:58 AM)NCeagle Wrote: exactly. Going 10-2 multiple years, while having 1 P5 win a year and 1P5 loss a year goes a lot further than Marshall's crap schedule which got them zero respect this year.
Still got us something no SB school has ever done. A Top 25 ranking and a Final Top 25 ranking.
Top 25 Final Poll:
Coaches 22
AP 23
And if Louisville would have stayed on the schedule, Im confident it would have been somewhere between 12-16.
If Georgia Southern had scheduled such powers as Miami (OH), Ohio, Akron, and Rhode Island, I'm pretty sure the Eagles would have been ranked as well.
The SBC never ends up ranked because we always play at least one money game in Nonconference...and usually that game is against the SEC. That makes it difficult.
This, Marshall's OOC was a joke. Put two weak MAC teams in place of two P5's and we are ranked at 11-1
Man shut up, I hope any SBC team would love to have that schedule and be in the top 25. After all these years the SBC has still yet to have a team in it...
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RE: No thread on the SBC being dead last this year in the G5 rankings?
(01-21-2015 04:17 PM)HerdZoned Wrote: (01-21-2015 11:50 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: (01-20-2015 11:08 PM)HerdZoned Wrote: (01-20-2015 09:58 AM)NCeagle Wrote: exactly. Going 10-2 multiple years, while having 1 P5 win a year and 1P5 loss a year goes a lot further than Marshall's crap schedule which got them zero respect this year.
Still got us something no SB school has ever done. A Top 25 ranking and a Final Top 25 ranking.
Top 25 Final Poll:
Coaches 22
AP 23
And if Louisville would have stayed on the schedule, Im confident it would have been somewhere between 12-16.
If Georgia Southern had scheduled such powers as Miami (OH), Ohio, Akron, and Rhode Island, I'm pretty sure the Eagles would have been ranked as well.
The SBC never ends up ranked because we always play at least one money game in Nonconference...and usually that game is against the SEC. That makes it difficult.
Playing 1 and done's are dumb unless you just can't pay the bills. And if you are that strapped for cash you really shouldn't be IA anyway then.
Going on the road to play a million dollar game against Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss and Florida only to get your head kicked in to the tune of 66-0 (Troy UGA score) isn't smart.
There are plenty of schools out there in what is considered the P5s that will do 1-1s. In the next few years Marshall will have 1-1s with NC State and Pitt and will finish up a 1-1 with Purdue next year and Louisville in 2016.
The only reason RI was on the schedule was because Louisville moved the game this year. They were suppose to be in Huntington. But they had to move a game and they weren't moving Kentucky, home game Murrary State or a free win at FIU.
Marshall tried to get a better IAA in and no one in the IAA Top 25 or anyone that thought they had a shot at the playoffs was coming to Huntington to take a beating this year.
As I said our schedule still gave us something no SB team has ever done a Top 25 ranking and Final Top 25 Ranking.
If one and done's are dumb, than you need to basically kick all of SBC, CUSA, MAC and good portions of the MWC and AAC back to FCS because everyone plays them.
And yes, there are plenty of P5's who will make a 1 and 1 out of it. We've all got home and home's coming up against the same team's you do.
Your schedule did what it was supposed to do, produce a ranked team. However, in the end it does very little for you overall because the schedule was so weak that you didnt make the access bowl. What we're arguing is that is if an SBC team went out and schedule that kind of OOC schedule, we'd probably produce a ranked team as well.
Marshall was ranked as a product of their schedule, not as a product of them actually being one of the top 25 teams in the country.
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RE: No thread on the SBC being dead last this year in the G5 rankings?
(01-21-2015 08:46 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: (01-21-2015 04:17 PM)HerdZoned Wrote: (01-21-2015 11:50 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: (01-20-2015 11:08 PM)HerdZoned Wrote: (01-20-2015 09:58 AM)NCeagle Wrote: exactly. Going 10-2 multiple years, while having 1 P5 win a year and 1P5 loss a year goes a lot further than Marshall's crap schedule which got them zero respect this year.
Still got us something no SB school has ever done. A Top 25 ranking and a Final Top 25 ranking.
Top 25 Final Poll:
Coaches 22
AP 23
And if Louisville would have stayed on the schedule, Im confident it would have been somewhere between 12-16.
If Georgia Southern had scheduled such powers as Miami (OH), Ohio, Akron, and Rhode Island, I'm pretty sure the Eagles would have been ranked as well.
The SBC never ends up ranked because we always play at least one money game in Nonconference...and usually that game is against the SEC. That makes it difficult.
Playing 1 and done's are dumb unless you just can't pay the bills. And if you are that strapped for cash you really shouldn't be IA anyway then.
Going on the road to play a million dollar game against Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss and Florida only to get your head kicked in to the tune of 66-0 (Troy UGA score) isn't smart.
There are plenty of schools out there in what is considered the P5s that will do 1-1s. In the next few years Marshall will have 1-1s with NC State and Pitt and will finish up a 1-1 with Purdue next year and Louisville in 2016.
The only reason RI was on the schedule was because Louisville moved the game this year. They were suppose to be in Huntington. But they had to move a game and they weren't moving Kentucky, home game Murrary State or a free win at FIU.
Marshall tried to get a better IAA in and no one in the IAA Top 25 or anyone that thought they had a shot at the playoffs was coming to Huntington to take a beating this year.
As I said our schedule still gave us something no SB team has ever done a Top 25 ranking and Final Top 25 Ranking.
If one and done's are dumb, than you need to basically kick all of SBC, CUSA, MAC and good portions of the MWC and AAC back to FCS because everyone plays them.
And yes, there are plenty of P5's who will make a 1 and 1 out of it. We've all got home and home's coming up against the same team's you do.
Your schedule did what it was supposed to do, produce a ranked team. However, in the end it does very little for you overall because the schedule was so weak that you didnt make the access bowl. What we're arguing is that is if an SBC team went out and schedule that kind of OOC schedule, we'd probably produce a ranked team as well.
Marshall was ranked as a product of their schedule, not as a product of them actually being one of the top 25 teams in the country.
By the end of the year, we had played 6 bowl eligible teams. We also beat an almost ranked NIU by a 29 point margin in our bowl, won the CUSA championship against a good LA Tech team, finished second highest in the G5, finished in the top 25 in two polls, and had a previous ranking by the committee. At some point, you recognize P5 is not necessarily synonymous with quality. Of course, the top programs are always strong, but Marshall was a good team. No, you couldn't just do it. Not saying your team will never get there, but Marshall was no joke this year.
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RE: No thread on the SBC being dead last this year in the G5 rankings?
I'm running out of cookies. New low for Marshall fans, coming to SBC boards for approval for the best season they've ever had.
Hopefully the NCAA doesn't taint this one for you guys.
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RE: No thread on the SBC being dead last this year in the G5 rankings?
(01-22-2015 12:43 AM)WEARE Wrote: (01-21-2015 08:46 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: (01-21-2015 04:17 PM)HerdZoned Wrote: (01-21-2015 11:50 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: (01-20-2015 11:08 PM)HerdZoned Wrote: Still got us something no SB school has ever done. A Top 25 ranking and a Final Top 25 ranking.
Top 25 Final Poll:
Coaches 22
AP 23
And if Louisville would have stayed on the schedule, Im confident it would have been somewhere between 12-16.
If Georgia Southern had scheduled such powers as Miami (OH), Ohio, Akron, and Rhode Island, I'm pretty sure the Eagles would have been ranked as well.
The SBC never ends up ranked because we always play at least one money game in Nonconference...and usually that game is against the SEC. That makes it difficult.
Playing 1 and done's are dumb unless you just can't pay the bills. And if you are that strapped for cash you really shouldn't be IA anyway then.
Going on the road to play a million dollar game against Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss and Florida only to get your head kicked in to the tune of 66-0 (Troy UGA score) isn't smart.
There are plenty of schools out there in what is considered the P5s that will do 1-1s. In the next few years Marshall will have 1-1s with NC State and Pitt and will finish up a 1-1 with Purdue next year and Louisville in 2016.
The only reason RI was on the schedule was because Louisville moved the game this year. They were suppose to be in Huntington. But they had to move a game and they weren't moving Kentucky, home game Murrary State or a free win at FIU.
Marshall tried to get a better IAA in and no one in the IAA Top 25 or anyone that thought they had a shot at the playoffs was coming to Huntington to take a beating this year.
As I said our schedule still gave us something no SB team has ever done a Top 25 ranking and Final Top 25 Ranking.
If one and done's are dumb, than you need to basically kick all of SBC, CUSA, MAC and good portions of the MWC and AAC back to FCS because everyone plays them.
And yes, there are plenty of P5's who will make a 1 and 1 out of it. We've all got home and home's coming up against the same team's you do.
Your schedule did what it was supposed to do, produce a ranked team. However, in the end it does very little for you overall because the schedule was so weak that you didnt make the access bowl. What we're arguing is that is if an SBC team went out and schedule that kind of OOC schedule, we'd probably produce a ranked team as well.
Marshall was ranked as a product of their schedule, not as a product of them actually being one of the top 25 teams in the country.
By the end of the year, we had played 6 bowl eligible teams. We also beat an almost ranked NIU by a 29 point margin in our bowl, won the CUSA championship against a good LA Tech team, finished second highest in the G5, finished in the top 25 in two polls, and had a previous ranking by the committee. At some point, you recognize P5 is not necessarily synonymous with quality. Of course, the top programs are always strong, but Marshall was a good team. No, you couldn't just do it. Not saying your team will never get there, but Marshall was no joke this year.
Great, Marshall was "no joke" .... And The Belt cares because?
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RE: No thread on the SBC being dead last this year in the G5 rankings?
(01-22-2015 08:16 AM)Saint3333 Wrote: I'm running out of cookies. New low for Marshall fans, coming to SBC boards for approval for the best season they've ever had.
Hopefully the NCAA doesn't taint this one for you guys.
No, we have had undefeated seasons with a top 10 ranking, but nice try. We need more cookies. Of course, Marshall can't compete with the prestige and brand of the Sun Belt teams. For the other poster, I assume you care because you guys desperately brought up Marshall on your board.
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RE: No thread on the SBC being dead last this year in the G5 rankings?
We should all consider having one of the easiest schedules in college football so we can be ranked in the top 25 by default.
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RE: No thread on the SBC being dead last this year in the G5 rankings?
(01-22-2015 12:12 PM)WEARE Wrote: (01-22-2015 08:16 AM)Saint3333 Wrote: I'm running out of cookies. New low for Marshall fans, coming to SBC boards for approval for the best season they've ever had.
Hopefully the NCAA doesn't taint this one for you guys.
No, we have had undefeated seasons with a top 10 ranking, but nice try. We need more cookies. Of course, Marshall can't compete with the prestige and brand of the Sun Belt teams. For the other poster, I assume you care because you guys desperately brought up Marshall on your board.
there is someone desperate here for certain...
you did have one top 10 season, then this:
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/NCAANewsArchive/...-7-02.html
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RE: No thread on the SBC being dead last this year in the G5 rankings?
(01-22-2015 12:53 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: (01-22-2015 12:12 PM)WEARE Wrote: (01-22-2015 08:16 AM)Saint3333 Wrote: I'm running out of cookies. New low for Marshall fans, coming to SBC boards for approval for the best season they've ever had.
Hopefully the NCAA doesn't taint this one for you guys.
No, we have had undefeated seasons with a top 10 ranking, but nice try. We need more cookies. Of course, Marshall can't compete with the prestige and brand of the Sun Belt teams. For the other poster, I assume you care because you guys desperately brought up Marshall on your board.
there is someone desperate here for certain...
you did have one top 10 season, then this:
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/NCAANewsArchive/...-7-02.html
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RE: No thread on the SBC being dead last this year in the G5 rankings?
Could be worse, they could cheat like UNC or Okie state. I know everyone does it to some degree, but some schools to it to a whole other level.
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RE: No thread on the SBC being dead last this year in the G5 rankings?
Marshall needs to sign a home/home with App and GS. I know we have tried but apparently we are too good of a team for Marshall to play.
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RE: No thread on the SBC being dead last this year in the G5 rankings?
(01-22-2015 03:39 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: Marshall needs to sign a home/home with App and GS. I know we have tried but apparently we are too good of a team for Marshall to play.
Yes. You are just too much for us. We played teams ranked higher than both of you, but you are too great. I'll let you guys get back to your dreams and excuses, but you might want to reflect on your reality before attempting to attack the champion of the conference you guys have lobbied to join all season.
CUSA just took several of your teams last season. Other conferences actually felt CUSA was dead simply because of Belt move-ups. Luckily, they were wrong. If everyone tries very hard, you can piece together why those teams left....try, really hard. Keep lobbying Marshall for a one on one. Maybe, one day, we can aspire to your level of greatness and legacy.
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RE: No thread on the SBC being dead last this year in the G5 rankings?
One side has reached out to sign and home and home, one team has refused. All while other programs from your conference, the MAC, and MWC have agreed to home and homes. One team is scared of the reality that WEARE back on the same level. Run for now.
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RE: No thread on the SBC being dead last this year in the G5 rankings?
(01-22-2015 11:09 PM)WEARE Wrote: (01-22-2015 03:39 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: Marshall needs to sign a home/home with App and GS. I know we have tried but apparently we are too good of a team for Marshall to play.
Yes. You are just too much for us. We played teams ranked higher than both of you, but you are too great. I'll let you guys get back to your dreams and excuses, but you might want to reflect on your reality before attempting to attack the champion of the conference you guys have lobbied to join all season.
CUSA just took several of your teams last season. Other conferences actually felt CUSA was dead simply because of Belt move-ups. Luckily, they were wrong. If everyone tries very hard, you can piece together why those teams left....try, really hard. Keep lobbying Marshall for a one on one. Maybe, one day, we can aspire to your level of greatness and legacy.
You can always dream. Keep trying and one day you may just reach that goal.
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RE: No thread on the SBC being dead last this year in the G5 rankings?
(01-23-2015 07:39 AM)Saint3333 Wrote: One side has reached out to sign and home and home, one team has refused. All while other programs from your conference, the MAC, and MWC have agreed to home and homes. One team is scared of the reality that WEARE back on the same level. Run for now.
Great logic! I bet there are many other schools terrified to play you with one on one terms. I am equally sure the reason these games aren't their top priority is fear. We haven't played App State in many years, and contrary to your opinion, there really isn't a big fan push to get App on the schedule. You are NOT back on the same level. You are in the same FBS division. No one is running from Happy Appy.
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