(02-09-2015 09:19 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 09:34 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(02-08-2015 02:47 PM)Niner National Wrote:  It's not going to be worse than the MAC deal. Period. If we get what the MAC got then nothing fundamentally changes for teams in the conference from a financial perspective.

agree, 800k will be the floor where you start from. [not where you end up.]

That's crazy! The floor will be where it's at right now. CUSA is a much more competitive conference than the MAC, with much better media markets. CUSA just won 4 of 5 bowl games and finished the season ranked as the #2 G5 conference. Don't kid yourself. CUSA is in a good position.

Your current floor was established when Houston, SMU, UCF, Tulsa, Tulane, Memphis, and ECU were in the conference.

That's about as ludicrous as the AAC retaining the Big East contract payout, with it's current makeup.

Hopefully $2,000,000 a year. We need that escrow money back

Has the broadcast quality improved for ASN during the basketball season? The games my local Sinclair station picked up during college football season were just terrible from a production standpoint. Maybe it was the feed they picked up, but the sound and color resembled something from about 1985. It was a struggle watching ASN games for me.

(02-10-2015 06:17 AM)Jimmy Wrote:  Has the broadcast quality improved for ASN during the basketball season? The games my local Sinclair station picked up during college football season were just terrible from a production standpoint. Maybe it was the feed they picked up, but the sound and color resembled something from about 1985. It was a struggle watching ASN games for me.

I have Direct TV, and the picture is crystal clear...

(02-10-2015 06:17 AM)Jimmy Wrote:  Has the broadcast quality improved for ASN during the basketball season? The games my local Sinclair station picked up during college football season were just terrible from a production standpoint. Maybe it was the feed they picked up, but the sound and color resembled something from about 1985. It was a struggle watching ASN games for me.

It was awesome for me. Must have just been your local station.

(02-09-2015 09:19 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 09:34 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(02-08-2015 02:47 PM)Niner National Wrote:  It's not going to be worse than the MAC deal. Period. If we get what the MAC got then nothing fundamentally changes for teams in the conference from a financial perspective.

agree, 800k will be the floor where you start from. [not where you end up.]

That's crazy! The floor will be where it's at right now. CUSA is a much more competitive conference than the MAC, with much better media markets. CUSA just won 4 of 5 bowl games and finished the season ranked as the #2 G5 conference. Don't kid yourself. CUSA is in a good position.

I was arguing for you not against you. Some were predicting a huge hit. I was disagreeing with that. This CUSA contract was based on the old CUSA not today's. TV would have spent more renegotiating that deal than what they could have saved, so the kept it in place. I have no Idea what TV execs will do, I have been predicting a moderate increase, though if CBS backs out, who knows.

(02-09-2015 11:35 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 09:19 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 09:34 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(02-08-2015 02:47 PM)Niner National Wrote:  It's not going to be worse than the MAC deal. Period. If we get what the MAC got then nothing fundamentally changes for teams in the conference from a financial perspective.

agree, 800k will be the floor where you start from. [not where you end up.]

That's crazy! The floor will be where it's at right now. CUSA is a much more competitive conference than the MAC, with much better media markets. CUSA just won 4 of 5 bowl games and finished the season ranked as the #2 G5 conference. Don't kid yourself. CUSA is in a good position.

Your current floor was established when Houston, SMU, UCF, Tulsa, Tulane, Memphis, and ECU were in the conference.

That's about as ludicrous as the AAC retaining the Big East contract payout, with it's current makeup.

Lord, you have to be one insecure person to go to another conference board and talk down an as yet unsigned tv deal just to make yourself feel richer, more important or whatever it is you need to add value to your little self.

(02-09-2015 11:35 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 09:19 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 09:34 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(02-08-2015 02:47 PM)Niner National Wrote:  It's not going to be worse than the MAC deal. Period. If we get what the MAC got then nothing fundamentally changes for teams in the conference from a financial perspective.

agree, 800k will be the floor where you start from. [not where you end up.]

That's crazy! The floor will be where it's at right now. CUSA is a much more competitive conference than the MAC, with much better media markets. CUSA just won 4 of 5 bowl games and finished the season ranked as the #2 G5 conference. Don't kid yourself. CUSA is in a good position.

Your current floor was established when Houston, SMU, UCF, Tulsa, Tulane, Memphis, and ECU were in the conference.

That's about as ludicrous as the AAC retaining the Big East contract payout, with it's current makeup.

Poor comparison. The teams that were in the Big East were legit national level programs with huge numbers of fans, national championships, and enormous television numbers.

The Big East deal was put in place when WV, Louisville, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, ND, Georgetown, Villanova, and Marquette were in the conference. The gap between those programs and all the programs you cited (except maybe Memphis) is HUGE. The gap between Houston, SMU, UCF, Tulsa, Tulane, and the programs added to CUSA is not nearly as large. Laughable to even compare the situations.

Not only that, but you are talking about a deals signed years ago. The MAC, a conference with the lowest attendance in FBS, with a very limited TV market just got $800,000 within the last 6 months. That deal is going to be a reference point for any future TV negotiations for both CUSA and the SBC.

(02-10-2015 08:12 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 06:17 AM)Jimmy Wrote:  Has the broadcast quality improved for ASN during the basketball season? The games my local Sinclair station picked up during college football season were just terrible from a production standpoint. Maybe it was the feed they picked up, but the sound and color resembled something from about 1985. It was a struggle watching ASN games for me.

It was awesome for me. Must have just been your local station.

That's what I was figuring with the things I've read in this thread. Thanks for the clarification. Media General now owns the station that used to be Sinclair, so we're not getting OTA C-USA any more.

(02-10-2015 11:31 AM)Jimmy Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 08:12 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 06:17 AM)Jimmy Wrote:  Has the broadcast quality improved for ASN during the basketball season? The games my local Sinclair station picked up during college football season were just terrible from a production standpoint. Maybe it was the feed they picked up, but the sound and color resembled something from about 1985. It was a struggle watching ASN games for me.

It was awesome for me. Must have just been your local station.

That's what I was figuring with the things I've read in this thread. Thanks for the clarification. Media General now owns the station that used to be Sinclair, so we're not getting OTA C-USA any more.

Maybe the new owner will still show the games.

We don't have a Sinclair station in Charlotte, but our local CW affiliate picks up all the ASN games we play in. They've even picked up some Saturday games we didn't play in since they'd just normally run infomercials in those time slots anyway.

(02-09-2015 11:35 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 09:19 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 09:34 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(02-08-2015 02:47 PM)Niner National Wrote:  It's not going to be worse than the MAC deal. Period. If we get what the MAC got then nothing fundamentally changes for teams in the conference from a financial perspective.

agree, 800k will be the floor where you start from. [not where you end up.]

That's crazy! The floor will be where it's at right now. CUSA is a much more competitive conference than the MAC, with much better media markets. CUSA just won 4 of 5 bowl games and finished the season ranked as the #2 G5 conference. Don't kid yourself. CUSA is in a good position.

Your current floor was established when Houston, SMU, UCF, Tulsa, Tulane, Memphis, and ECU were in the conference.

That's about as ludicrous as the AAC retaining the Big East contract payout, with it's current makeup.

Of the schools you mentioned, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa, and Memphis did very little to drive the TV contract up. More than anything, they were a drag. Private schools do very little to draw viewers, unless we're talking about Notre Dame or Stanford or any of the service academies.

I dont understand all the thread crapping from AAC, Belt, etc fans.

We're all in this together. Every penny we can pull away from Cartel programs is a win for all of us and the game itself. Don't fall to the I wanna be the tallest midget pressure.

(02-09-2015 11:35 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Your current floor was established when Houston, SMU, UCF, Tulsa, Tulane, Memphis, and ECU were in the conference.

This is about as ludicrous of a comment I could make.........

FIFY

(02-10-2015 03:49 PM)Artifice Wrote:  I dont understand all the thread crapping from AAC, Belt, etc fans.

We're all in this together. Every penny we can pull away from Cartel programs is a win for all of us and the game itself. Don't fall to the I wanna be the tallest midget pressure.

While I agree in general with your statement, TV $$ does not take any money from the P5. These are private $$ the TV corporations are giving for content.
The only $$ that would take away from the P5 is the CFP $$. But that has been wrapped up for 12 years.

(02-10-2015 03:49 PM)Artifice Wrote:  I dont understand all the thread crapping from AAC, Belt, etc fans.

We're all in this together. Every penny we can pull away from Cartel programs is a win for all of us and the game itself. Don't fall to the I wanna be the tallest midget pressure.

Honestly, the key is having at least TWO networks that want your content. If a network is interested, but has no competition, there is not much preventing that network from low balling their bid. CUSA needs Fox to expand their content purchase with either NBC-Sports or ESPN also making a play for those same CUSA rights. Interest by all 3 would be the perfect storm for CUSA. The way the bidding process was set up for the AAC, they effectively only had one network bidding. That was bad news for the AAC. CUSA needs to avoid that dynamic if they want to maximize their contract.

The idea is that there is a finite amount of broadcaster money and espn and the cartel leagues have been trying to aggregate it all.

(02-09-2015 12:31 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  The AAC + Louisville (ACC), Rutgers (Big 10), the C7 (now the BE), and ND Olympic Sports (ACC)...

It may very well have been that much...

I won't argue with anyone for thinking the above conference could have made a ton of money.

I will, however, point and laugh at anyone who ever thought the above conference had a chance in hell of actually materializing.