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RE: Lots of changes at UCF [Key = OC, Former USF DC now UCF]
(01-12-2015 12:30 PM)firmbizzle Wrote: (01-12-2015 12:20 PM)No Bull Wrote: Taafe is a huge loss. No faith in Key.
Taafe's play calling was huge. He was the best OC we ever had.
Reminder that GOL's record is 44-55 without Taffe or Freidgen. Both had extensive experience coaching offense before becoming coordinators. This will not end well. Abort now!
This is why I wanted Barrett to be the OC. Key sounds like Salem all over again.
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RE: Lots of changes at UCF [Key = OC, Former USF DC now UCF]
(01-12-2015 12:30 PM)firmbizzle Wrote: (01-12-2015 12:20 PM)No Bull Wrote: Taafe is a huge loss. No faith in Key.
Taafe's play calling was huge. He was the best OC we ever had.
Reminder that GOL's record is 44-55 without Taffe or Freidgen. Both had extensive experience coaching offense before becoming coordinators. This will not end well. Abort now!
Exactly!
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RE: Lots of changes at UCF [Key = OC, Former USF DC now UCF]
(01-12-2015 11:45 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: (01-12-2015 11:26 AM)CyberBull Wrote: (01-12-2015 08:48 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: I can't help laugh at the USF fans that are posting on this topic. They are scared to death that their former DC will come to UCF and have success. UCF has always had success with whomever they've had in that spot. This hire should be no different. I have more confidence in O'Leary making a good hire than I do in Taggart making any good decisions involving his coaching staff.
We'll see who is laughing at the end of the year....and the only thing USF fans are scared of is how we will react to an defensive coordinator that can actually get his team in the right defense and make game day adjustments. We haven't had one of those in a long time...
BTW...he was fired for a variety of reasons and I'll leave it at that. He was hired by UCF b/c he needed a job and UCF had a hard time finding quality coaches willing to take a highly likely one and done situation.
BTW...it took GOL a long time to settle on the right mix for his staff. Look at all the turnover during his first 5-6 years.
Good luck...you are going to need it.
Your DC was the least of your problems. Your HC is a complete disaster. You could easily say that any coaches Taggart brings in are looking at a one and done too.
UCF has lots of staff turnover due to success. That's a good problem to have.
I think USF is in more need of luck than UCF.
Complete disaster?
Why? Because he inherited a program where the previous coach didn't recruit a QB in over three years or any other skill position?
Taggart had a complete reclamation job on his hands and his records shows it. Sure he is not proven but we saw some progress last year and need to see the same trend continue into next year to save his job...but the problems with this program are not all Taggart's. I'd like to see what GOL would do in the same situation. Oh wait...he went winless for over a season as he inherited a similar hot mess from Krucek.
Anyways...I just laugh how all the UCF fans that used to bash our defense are now making our fired DC sound like a defensive wunderkind.
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RE: Lots of changes at UCF [Key = OC, Former USF DC now UCF]
(01-12-2015 01:05 PM)CyberBull Wrote: (01-12-2015 11:45 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: (01-12-2015 11:26 AM)CyberBull Wrote: (01-12-2015 08:48 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: I can't help laugh at the USF fans that are posting on this topic. They are scared to death that their former DC will come to UCF and have success. UCF has always had success with whomever they've had in that spot. This hire should be no different. I have more confidence in O'Leary making a good hire than I do in Taggart making any good decisions involving his coaching staff.
We'll see who is laughing at the end of the year....and the only thing USF fans are scared of is how we will react to an defensive coordinator that can actually get his team in the right defense and make game day adjustments. We haven't had one of those in a long time...
BTW...he was fired for a variety of reasons and I'll leave it at that. He was hired by UCF b/c he needed a job and UCF had a hard time finding quality coaches willing to take a highly likely one and done situation.
BTW...it took GOL a long time to settle on the right mix for his staff. Look at all the turnover during his first 5-6 years.
Good luck...you are going to need it.
Your DC was the least of your problems. Your HC is a complete disaster. You could easily say that any coaches Taggart brings in are looking at a one and done too.
UCF has lots of staff turnover due to success. That's a good problem to have.
I think USF is in more need of luck than UCF.
Complete disaster?
Why? Because he inherited a program where the previous coach didn't recruit a QB in over three years or any other skill position?
Taggart had a complete reclamation job on his hands and his records shows it. Sure he is not proven but we saw some progress last year and need to see the same trend continue into next year to save his job...but the problems with this program are not all Taggart's. I'd like to see what GOL would do in the same situation. Oh wait...he went winless for over a season as he inherited a similar hot mess from Krucek.
Anyways...I just laugh how all the UCF fans that used to bash our defense are now making our fired DC sound like a defensive wunderkind.
Wunderkind is someone who has success at a relatively young age and I don't think Bresnahan is very young. Not many people are saying he will be great just that this is a decent, not great hire. One probably made more because it was a bargain, and had previously worked with George O'Leary than anything else. George will keep his hand in the defense and the D will be fine
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RE: Lots of changes at UCF [Key = OC, Former USF DC now UCF]
(01-12-2015 01:05 PM)CyberBull Wrote: (01-12-2015 11:45 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: (01-12-2015 11:26 AM)CyberBull Wrote: (01-12-2015 08:48 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: I can't help laugh at the USF fans that are posting on this topic. They are scared to death that their former DC will come to UCF and have success. UCF has always had success with whomever they've had in that spot. This hire should be no different. I have more confidence in O'Leary making a good hire than I do in Taggart making any good decisions involving his coaching staff.
We'll see who is laughing at the end of the year....and the only thing USF fans are scared of is how we will react to an defensive coordinator that can actually get his team in the right defense and make game day adjustments. We haven't had one of those in a long time...
BTW...he was fired for a variety of reasons and I'll leave it at that. He was hired by UCF b/c he needed a job and UCF had a hard time finding quality coaches willing to take a highly likely one and done situation.
BTW...it took GOL a long time to settle on the right mix for his staff. Look at all the turnover during his first 5-6 years.
Good luck...you are going to need it.
Your DC was the least of your problems. Your HC is a complete disaster. You could easily say that any coaches Taggart brings in are looking at a one and done too.
UCF has lots of staff turnover due to success. That's a good problem to have.
I think USF is in more need of luck than UCF.
Complete disaster?
Why? Because he inherited a program where the previous coach didn't recruit a QB in over three years or any other skill position?
Taggart had a complete reclamation job on his hands and his records shows it. Sure he is not proven but we saw some progress last year and need to see the same trend continue into next year to save his job...but the problems with this program are not all Taggart's. I'd like to see what GOL would do in the same situation. Oh wait...he went winless for over a season as he inherited a similar hot mess from Krucek.
Anyways...I just laugh how all the UCF fans that used to bash our defense are now making our fired DC sound like a defensive wunderkind.
Its a disaster because Taggart has no clue what he's doing IMO. He is going on his third OC in as many years. I don't think he knows how to build a staff.
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RE: Lots of changes at UCF [Key = OC, Former USF DC now UCF]
(01-12-2015 01:38 PM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: Its a disaster because Taggart has no clue what he's doing IMO. He is going on his third OC in as many years. I don't think he knows how to build a staff.
That is your opinion, but if you look back GOL churned through coordinators over the years as well.
Good luck to Coach Bres, hope he leads the nation in defense but UCF finishes 0-12, again. LOL
This will add the rivalry...one way or another. Which is ultimately good for generating interest in the game and rivalry itself for TV.
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RE: Lots of changes at UCF [Key = OC, Former USF DC now UCF]
Since UCF nabbed USF's DC. Who is the new one now?
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RE: Lots of changes at UCF [Key = OC, Former USF DC now UCF]
(01-12-2015 01:05 PM)CyberBull Wrote: (01-12-2015 11:45 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: (01-12-2015 11:26 AM)CyberBull Wrote: (01-12-2015 08:48 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: I can't help laugh at the USF fans that are posting on this topic. They are scared to death that their former DC will come to UCF and have success. UCF has always had success with whomever they've had in that spot. This hire should be no different. I have more confidence in O'Leary making a good hire than I do in Taggart making any good decisions involving his coaching staff.
We'll see who is laughing at the end of the year....and the only thing USF fans are scared of is how we will react to an defensive coordinator that can actually get his team in the right defense and make game day adjustments. We haven't had one of those in a long time...
BTW...he was fired for a variety of reasons and I'll leave it at that. He was hired by UCF b/c he needed a job and UCF had a hard time finding quality coaches willing to take a highly likely one and done situation.
BTW...it took GOL a long time to settle on the right mix for his staff. Look at all the turnover during his first 5-6 years.
Good luck...you are going to need it.
Your DC was the least of your problems. Your HC is a complete disaster. You could easily say that any coaches Taggart brings in are looking at a one and done too.
UCF has lots of staff turnover due to success. That's a good problem to have.
I think USF is in more need of luck than UCF.
Complete disaster?
Why? Because he inherited a program where the previous coach didn't recruit a QB in over three years or any other skill position?
Taggart had a complete reclamation job on his hands and his records shows it. Sure he is not proven but we saw some progress last year and need to see the same trend continue into next year to save his job...but the problems with this program are not all Taggart's. I'd like to see what GOL would do in the same situation. Oh wait...he went winless for over a season as he inherited a similar hot mess from Krucek.
Anyways...I just laugh how all the UCF fans that used to bash our defense are now making our fired DC sound like a defensive wunderkind.
I'm not as down on Taggart as some (even USF fans) are, but this is exactly what would concern me. He took over a program with clear issues at the QB position, and has since recruited only one QB per year - 1 3 star (rivals) with average offers (White), 1 3 star that had great offers, but was recruited by most at a position other than QB (Flowers), and his only current QB commitment is a 2 star with offers mainly from MAC schools. He's been able to recruit well based on star ratings, but another very important aspect to recruiting is recruiting for need, a quite apparent need that he has failed to address.
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RE: Lots of changes at UCF [Key = OC, Former USF DC now UCF]
(01-12-2015 01:47 PM)CyberBull Wrote: (01-12-2015 01:38 PM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: Its a disaster because Taggart has no clue what he's doing IMO. He is going on his third OC in as many years. I don't think he knows how to build a staff.
That is your opinion, but [b]if you look back GOL churned through coordinators over the years as well.[/b]
Good luck to Coach Bres, hope he leads the nation in defense but UCF finishes 0-12, again. LOL
This will add the rivalry...one way or another. Which is ultimately good for generating interest in the game and rivalry itself for TV.
I believe O'Leary has fired three coordinators in eleven years. Taggart has fired four in two years.
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RE: Lots of changes at UCF [Key = OC, Former USF DC now UCF]
(01-12-2015 01:47 PM)CyberBull Wrote: (01-12-2015 01:38 PM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: Its a disaster because Taggart has no clue what he's doing IMO. He is going on his third OC in as many years. I don't think he knows how to build a staff.
That is your opinion, but [b]if you look back GOL churned through coordinators over the years as well.[/b]
Good luck to Coach Bres, hope he leads the nation in defense but UCF finishes 0-12, again. LOL
This will add the rivalry...one way or another. Which is ultimately good for generating interest in the game and rivalry itself for TV.
I believe O'Leary has fired three coordinators in eleven years. Taggart has fired four in two years.
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RE: Lots of changes at UCF [Key = OC, Former USF DC now UCF]
It will be a stinger if ucf beats usf again based on a defensive performance. Usf should have stuck with Holtz, the guy is winning now.
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RE: Lots of changes at UCF [Key = OC, Former USF DC now UCF]
(01-12-2015 02:40 PM)RobUCF Wrote: (01-12-2015 01:05 PM)CyberBull Wrote: (01-12-2015 11:45 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: (01-12-2015 11:26 AM)CyberBull Wrote: (01-12-2015 08:48 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: I can't help laugh at the USF fans that are posting on this topic. They are scared to death that their former DC will come to UCF and have success. UCF has always had success with whomever they've had in that spot. This hire should be no different. I have more confidence in O'Leary making a good hire than I do in Taggart making any good decisions involving his coaching staff.
We'll see who is laughing at the end of the year....and the only thing USF fans are scared of is how we will react to an defensive coordinator that can actually get his team in the right defense and make game day adjustments. We haven't had one of those in a long time...
BTW...he was fired for a variety of reasons and I'll leave it at that. He was hired by UCF b/c he needed a job and UCF had a hard time finding quality coaches willing to take a highly likely one and done situation.
BTW...it took GOL a long time to settle on the right mix for his staff. Look at all the turnover during his first 5-6 years.
Good luck...you are going to need it.
Your DC was the least of your problems. Your HC is a complete disaster. You could easily say that any coaches Taggart brings in are looking at a one and done too.
UCF has lots of staff turnover due to success. That's a good problem to have.
I think USF is in more need of luck than UCF.
Complete disaster?
Why? Because he inherited a program where the previous coach didn't recruit a QB in over three years or any other skill position?
Taggart had a complete reclamation job on his hands and his records shows it. Sure he is not proven but we saw some progress last year and need to see the same trend continue into next year to save his job...but the problems with this program are not all Taggart's. I'd like to see what GOL would do in the same situation. Oh wait...he went winless for over a season as he inherited a similar hot mess from Krucek.
Anyways...I just laugh how all the UCF fans that used to bash our defense are now making our fired DC sound like a defensive wunderkind.
I'm not as down on Taggart as some (even USF fans) are, but this is exactly what would concern me. He took over a program with clear issues at the QB position, and has since recruited only one QB per year - 1 3 star (rivals) with average offers (White), 1 3 star that had great offers, but was recruited by most at a position other than QB (Flowers), and his only current QB commitment is a 2 star with offers mainly from MAC schools. He's been able to recruit well based on star ratings, but another very important aspect to recruiting is recruiting for need, a quite apparent need that he has failed to address.
good post and I'll compare that to UCF who in my opinion continues to underachieve in recruiting but I'll give them credit on recruiting the QB position. Bortles, Holman, Harris, & Bo(fingers crossed he sticks) is a very impressive line of recruited QBs
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RE: Lots of changes at UCF [Key = OC, Former USF DC now UCF]
(01-12-2015 01:56 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote: Since UCF nabbed USF's DC. Who is the new one now?
The Ole Miss LB coach.
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RE: Lots of changes at UCF [Key = OC, Former USF DC now UCF]
Going to miss OC Charlie Taaffe. That's going to be the biggest blow with QB Holman still developing and new WRs coming in. Offensive Line better get their stuff together if we want to score at all next season.
Defense, I am not too worried about. We return a lot of talent and O'Leary is the really in charge. We have had a lot of different DC's since Hux left and we still preform as a Top 25 defense.
Next year will likely be a rebuilding year. Hopefully we will still make bowl eligibility. 6-6 bound for Orlando's Inaugural Cure Bowl
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RE: Lots of changes at UCF [Key = OC, Former USF DC now UCF]
(01-12-2015 02:40 PM)RobUCF Wrote: (01-12-2015 01:05 PM)CyberBull Wrote: (01-12-2015 11:45 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: (01-12-2015 11:26 AM)CyberBull Wrote: (01-12-2015 08:48 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: I can't help laugh at the USF fans that are posting on this topic. They are scared to death that their former DC will come to UCF and have success. UCF has always had success with whomever they've had in that spot. This hire should be no different. I have more confidence in O'Leary making a good hire than I do in Taggart making any good decisions involving his coaching staff.
We'll see who is laughing at the end of the year....and the only thing USF fans are scared of is how we will react to an defensive coordinator that can actually get his team in the right defense and make game day adjustments. We haven't had one of those in a long time...
BTW...he was fired for a variety of reasons and I'll leave it at that. He was hired by UCF b/c he needed a job and UCF had a hard time finding quality coaches willing to take a highly likely one and done situation.
BTW...it took GOL a long time to settle on the right mix for his staff. Look at all the turnover during his first 5-6 years.
Good luck...you are going to need it.
Your DC was the least of your problems. Your HC is a complete disaster. You could easily say that any coaches Taggart brings in are looking at a one and done too.
UCF has lots of staff turnover due to success. That's a good problem to have.
I think USF is in more need of luck than UCF.
Complete disaster?
Why? Because he inherited a program where the previous coach didn't recruit a QB in over three years or any other skill position?
Taggart had a complete reclamation job on his hands and his records shows it. Sure he is not proven but we saw some progress last year and need to see the same trend continue into next year to save his job...but the problems with this program are not all Taggart's. I'd like to see what GOL would do in the same situation. Oh wait...he went winless for over a season as he inherited a similar hot mess from Krucek.
Anyways...I just laugh how all the UCF fans that used to bash our defense are now making our fired DC sound like a defensive wunderkind.
I'm not as down on Taggart as some (even USF fans) are, but this is exactly what would concern me. He took over a program with clear issues at the QB position, and has since recruited only one QB per year - 1 3 star (rivals) with average offers (White), 1 3 star that had great offers, but was recruited by most at a position other than QB (Flowers), and his only current QB commitment is a 2 star with offers mainly from MAC schools. He's been able to recruit well based on star ratings, but another very important aspect to recruiting is recruiting for need, a quite apparent need that he has failed to address.
Look...Taggart has only had one year to recruit a QB b/c he had less than 3 weeks to put together a class in year one. We are lucky we got Mike White and that he stuck with his commitment after Miss State offered in late January. White is not a bad QB...he just shouldn't have been thrown into the mix as a true freshmen. However Taggart had no choice.
In terms of last year, winning less than ten games over three years doesn't make for a prime QB destination site, especially at a tough to recruit position like QB. Taggart was close on getting a couple quality transfers but he missed out P5 type schools, see Trickett and WVU.
I am not suggesting that Taggart has been without fault, but to blame him for the dumpster fire Holtz left behind and all the recruiting bridges he burned takes time. You guys will find out whenever GOL retires and will have to make ammends with all the high school coaches throughout the state that GOL has traditionally had a rocky at best relationship.
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RE: Lots of changes at UCF [Key = OC, Former USF DC now UCF]
(01-12-2015 04:35 PM)CyberBull Wrote: (01-12-2015 02:40 PM)RobUCF Wrote: (01-12-2015 01:05 PM)CyberBull Wrote: (01-12-2015 11:45 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: (01-12-2015 11:26 AM)CyberBull Wrote: We'll see who is laughing at the end of the year....and the only thing USF fans are scared of is how we will react to an defensive coordinator that can actually get his team in the right defense and make game day adjustments. We haven't had one of those in a long time...
BTW...he was fired for a variety of reasons and I'll leave it at that. He was hired by UCF b/c he needed a job and UCF had a hard time finding quality coaches willing to take a highly likely one and done situation.
BTW...it took GOL a long time to settle on the right mix for his staff. Look at all the turnover during his first 5-6 years.
Good luck...you are going to need it.
Your DC was the least of your problems. Your HC is a complete disaster. You could easily say that any coaches Taggart brings in are looking at a one and done too.
UCF has lots of staff turnover due to success. That's a good problem to have.
I think USF is in more need of luck than UCF.
Complete disaster?
Why? Because he inherited a program where the previous coach didn't recruit a QB in over three years or any other skill position?
Taggart had a complete reclamation job on his hands and his records shows it. Sure he is not proven but we saw some progress last year and need to see the same trend continue into next year to save his job...but the problems with this program are not all Taggart's. I'd like to see what GOL would do in the same situation. Oh wait...he went winless for over a season as he inherited a similar hot mess from Krucek.
Anyways...I just laugh how all the UCF fans that used to bash our defense are now making our fired DC sound like a defensive wunderkind.
I'm not as down on Taggart as some (even USF fans) are, but this is exactly what would concern me. He took over a program with clear issues at the QB position, and has since recruited only one QB per year - 1 3 star (rivals) with average offers (White), 1 3 star that had great offers, but was recruited by most at a position other than QB (Flowers), and his only current QB commitment is a 2 star with offers mainly from MAC schools. He's been able to recruit well based on star ratings, but another very important aspect to recruiting is recruiting for need, a quite apparent need that he has failed to address.
Look...Taggart has only had one year to recruit a QB b/c he had less than 3 weeks to put together a class in year one. We are lucky we got Mike White and that he stuck with his commitment after Miss State offered in late January. White is not a bad QB...he just shouldn't have been thrown into the mix as a true freshmen. However Taggart had no choice.
In terms of last year, winning less than ten games over three years doesn't make for a prime QB destination site, especially at a tough to recruit position like QB. Taggart was close on getting a couple quality transfers but he missed out P5 type schools, see Trickett and WVU.
I am not suggesting that Taggart has been without fault, but to blame him for the dumpster fire Holtz left behind and all the recruiting bridges he burned takes time. You guys will find out whenever GOL retires and will have to make ammends with all the high school coaches throughout the state that GOL has traditionally had a rocky at best relationship.
GOL has done pretty well with those rocky at best relationships.
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RE: Lots of changes at UCF [Key = OC, Former USF DC now UCF]
(01-12-2015 04:25 PM)Cubanbull Wrote: (01-12-2015 01:56 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote: Since UCF nabbed USF's DC. Who is the new one now?
The Ole Miss LB coach.
Hopefully he does replicate the same production from Ole Miss. Felt so helpless on offense during that game lol
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RE: Lots of changes at UCF [Key = OC, Former USF DC now UCF]
(01-12-2015 04:35 PM)CyberBull Wrote: (01-12-2015 02:40 PM)RobUCF Wrote: (01-12-2015 01:05 PM)CyberBull Wrote: (01-12-2015 11:45 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: (01-12-2015 11:26 AM)CyberBull Wrote: We'll see who is laughing at the end of the year....and the only thing USF fans are scared of is how we will react to an defensive coordinator that can actually get his team in the right defense and make game day adjustments. We haven't had one of those in a long time...
BTW...he was fired for a variety of reasons and I'll leave it at that. He was hired by UCF b/c he needed a job and UCF had a hard time finding quality coaches willing to take a highly likely one and done situation.
BTW...it took GOL a long time to settle on the right mix for his staff. Look at all the turnover during his first 5-6 years.
Good luck...you are going to need it.
Your DC was the least of your problems. Your HC is a complete disaster. You could easily say that any coaches Taggart brings in are looking at a one and done too.
UCF has lots of staff turnover due to success. That's a good problem to have.
I think USF is in more need of luck than UCF.
Complete disaster?
Why? Because he inherited a program where the previous coach didn't recruit a QB in over three years or any other skill position?
Taggart had a complete reclamation job on his hands and his records shows it. Sure he is not proven but we saw some progress last year and need to see the same trend continue into next year to save his job...but the problems with this program are not all Taggart's. I'd like to see what GOL would do in the same situation. Oh wait...he went winless for over a season as he inherited a similar hot mess from Krucek.
Anyways...I just laugh how all the UCF fans that used to bash our defense are now making our fired DC sound like a defensive wunderkind.
I'm not as down on Taggart as some (even USF fans) are, but this is exactly what would concern me. He took over a program with clear issues at the QB position, and has since recruited only one QB per year - 1 3 star (rivals) with average offers (White), 1 3 star that had great offers, but was recruited by most at a position other than QB (Flowers), and his only current QB commitment is a 2 star with offers mainly from MAC schools. He's been able to recruit well based on star ratings, but another very important aspect to recruiting is recruiting for need, a quite apparent need that he has failed to address.
Look...Taggart has only had one year to recruit a QB b/c he had less than 3 weeks to put together a class in year one. We are lucky we got Mike White and that he stuck with his commitment after Miss State offered in late January. White is not a bad QB...he just shouldn't have been thrown into the mix as a true freshmen. However Taggart had no choice.
In terms of last year, winning less than ten games over three years doesn't make for a prime QB destination site, especially at a tough to recruit position like QB. Taggart was close on getting a couple quality transfers but he missed out P5 type schools, see Trickett and WVU.
I am not suggesting that Taggart has been without fault, but to blame him for the dumpster fire Holtz left behind and all the recruiting bridges he burned takes time. You guys will find out whenever GOL retires and will have to make ammends with all the high school coaches throughout the state that GOL has traditionally had a rocky at best relationship.
I wish GOL would have a better relationship with Orlando area HS coaches but what good does all the HS coaches loving Taggart have if he is a terrible coach and gets fired in 11 months?
I'm with RobUCF in that I'm not convinced that Taggart is THAT BAD but we'll see if he can actually coach this year, excuses are over for him
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RE: Lots of changes at UCF [Key = OC, Former USF DC now UCF]
(01-12-2015 04:43 PM)knightastic Wrote: (01-12-2015 04:35 PM)CyberBull Wrote: (01-12-2015 02:40 PM)RobUCF Wrote: (01-12-2015 01:05 PM)CyberBull Wrote: (01-12-2015 11:45 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: Your DC was the least of your problems. Your HC is a complete disaster. You could easily say that any coaches Taggart brings in are looking at a one and done too.
UCF has lots of staff turnover due to success. That's a good problem to have.
I think USF is in more need of luck than UCF.
Complete disaster?
Why? Because he inherited a program where the previous coach didn't recruit a QB in over three years or any other skill position?
Taggart had a complete reclamation job on his hands and his records shows it. Sure he is not proven but we saw some progress last year and need to see the same trend continue into next year to save his job...but the problems with this program are not all Taggart's. I'd like to see what GOL would do in the same situation. Oh wait...he went winless for over a season as he inherited a similar hot mess from Krucek.
Anyways...I just laugh how all the UCF fans that used to bash our defense are now making our fired DC sound like a defensive wunderkind.
I'm not as down on Taggart as some (even USF fans) are, but this is exactly what would concern me. He took over a program with clear issues at the QB position, and has since recruited only one QB per year - 1 3 star (rivals) with average offers (White), 1 3 star that had great offers, but was recruited by most at a position other than QB (Flowers), and his only current QB commitment is a 2 star with offers mainly from MAC schools. He's been able to recruit well based on star ratings, but another very important aspect to recruiting is recruiting for need, a quite apparent need that he has failed to address.
Look...Taggart has only had one year to recruit a QB b/c he had less than 3 weeks to put together a class in year one. We are lucky we got Mike White and that he stuck with his commitment after Miss State offered in late January. White is not a bad QB...he just shouldn't have been thrown into the mix as a true freshmen. However Taggart had no choice.
In terms of last year, winning less than ten games over three years doesn't make for a prime QB destination site, especially at a tough to recruit position like QB. Taggart was close on getting a couple quality transfers but he missed out P5 type schools, see Trickett and WVU.
I am not suggesting that Taggart has been without fault, but to blame him for the dumpster fire Holtz left behind and all the recruiting bridges he burned takes time. You guys will find out whenever GOL retires and will have to make ammends with all the high school coaches throughout the state that GOL has traditionally had a rocky at best relationship.
I wish GOL would have a better relationship with Orlando area HS coaches but what good does all the HS coaches loving Taggart have if he is a terrible coach and gets fired in 11 months?
I'm with RobUCF in that I'm not convinced that Taggart is THAT BAD but we'll see if he can actually coach this year, excuses are over for him
If Taggart doesn't produce this year and foes get fired the new HC will have plenty of talent to build from something Taggart lacked when he arrived.
So at worst he will leave USF better than he arrived. Of course that's hard for many to see that just want to see wins
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RE: Lots of changes at UCF [Key = OC, Former USF DC now UCF]
(01-12-2015 04:32 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: Going to miss OC Charlie Taaffe. That's going to be the biggest blow with QB Holman still developing and new WRs coming in. Offensive Line better get their stuff together if we want to score at all next season.
Defense, I am not too worried about. We return a lot of talent and O'Leary is the really in charge. We have had a lot of different DC's since Hux left and we still preform as a Top 25 defense.
Next year will likely be a rebuilding year. Hopefully we will still make bowl eligibility. 6-6 bound for Orlando's Inaugural Cure Bowl
good post.
UCF hiring Coach Bres is just adds more fuel to this budding rivalry of ours. However, UCF DC's are typically micromanaged by O'Leary so if you have good replacement players lined up I'm sure GOL will do his thing.
Losing Taffe is huge for you guys b/c he was the first OC for UCF that really developed QBs and produced a consistent offense.
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