(01-05-2015 12:43 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  I'll be happy with 3 bids and with 4 bids. The league didn't play well early but finally getting quality wins.

My guess temple, cincy, smu, and uconn get a bid. Uconn needs to hope for a strong Florida the rest of the year.

UConn is in fine shape if you look inside the numbers a little bit. And the committee does. UConn's BPI is at #42, which is 40 places better than its RPI. We know the committee looks at things like games in OT, buzzer beaters and players who were injured (which is what the BPI is for). UCLA's loss to Utah dings them hard in the BPI, but not so much in the RPI.

Interestingly, BPI still underweights Temple's last 5 games because their system sees the starters from the first 10 games as Temple's "top" players and assumes that they're playing without a top player. It will hit a point where Morgan will have top minutes and Temple's BPI should flip upwards significantly as the weights from the good and bad parts of the season are switched.

lol nobody gonna want the 8/9 in the Midwest.

(01-01-2015 03:47 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(01-01-2015 03:13 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  Of course all 4 would be considered on the bubble right now

10 seed SMU
12 Cincinnati
12 Temple
UCONN 5th out



@ESPNLunardi: Multi-bid leagues: ACC (7), Big 12 (7), Big East (7), Big 10 (6), Pac-12 (4), SEC (4), A-10 (3), American (3), MVC (2), MtWest (2), WCC (2).

@ESPNLunardi: 28-Iowa, 29-Ark, 30-OhioSt, 31-Prov, 32-But, 33-Xav, 34-Gtown, 35-Lsu, 36-Gw, 37-Ind, 38-SMU, 39-Cuse, 40-MichSt, 41-Tcu, 42-Georgia, 43-Byu

@ESPNLunardi: 44-Stan, 45-Cincy, 46-Day, 47-Temp, 48-Miami, 49-GBAY, 50-BUFF, 51-HARV, 52-GAST, 53-EWU, 54-SFA, 55-LAFAY, 56-NE, 57-UCSB, 58-CANI, 59-FGCU

@ESPNLunardi: FIRST OUT: Minn, Florida, SoCar, OklaSt. NEXT OUT: Conn, Illinois, Unlv, PennSt. FOUR MORE: Davidson, GaTech, NCSt, Rhode.

@ESPNLunardi: First full Bracketology scheduled for Monday, January 5. Happy New Year!

Iowa 28th, yeah right! RPI 62, only played 2 road games all year. Someone is drinking cool-aid. Resume is nowhere near as good as Temple's.

I have to agree. Iowa at 28th is not only way too high but shocking. Espin wants a piece of that Big10 contract (renewal coming up) that I guess they will do ANYTHING, and I mean anything to get it. What would be funny is if ESPN somehow got shut out by Fox or NBC and suddenly you wouldn't see the Big getting so much love from Espin. In fact, they wouldn't get a word of coverage at all. * Full disclosure: I don't respect ESPN and want bad things to happen to them.

(01-05-2015 12:49 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 12:43 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  I'll be happy with 3 bids and :pbjtime: with 4 bids. The league didn't play well early but finally getting quality wins.

My guess temple, cincy, smu, and uconn get a bid. Uconn needs to hope for a strong Florida the rest of the year.

UConn is in fine shape if you look inside the numbers a little bit. And the committee does. UConn's BPI is at #42, which is 40 places better than its RPI. We know the committee looks at things like games in OT, buzzer beaters and players who were injured (which is what the BPI is for). UCLA's loss to Utah dings them hard in the BPI, but not so much in the RPI.

ok, just so you know. RPI is what the committe goes by. BPI is a made up thing by ESPN to promote the conferences/schools they do business with. ESPN doesn't cover sports, they promote or destroy depending on who does or doesn't do business with them. At least we (AAC) are on ESPN's blind side and not their bad side which is fatal to a conference.

(01-05-2015 02:12 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  ok, just so you know. RPI is what the committe goes by. BPI is a made up thing by ESPN to promote the conferences/schools they do business with. ESPN doesn't cover sports, they promote or destroy depending on who does or doesn't do business with them. At least we (AAC) are on ESPN's blind side and not their bad side which is fatal to a conference.

I agree; just look at Temple's BPI and you can see it makes no sense.
They have top 50 wins; others who are in the top 50 don't even have that.
TCU is like in the top 30 something and they played a tulane-like schedule, except for the Washington and St John's part of the TU schedule.

IF ESPN is in the market to kill those not affiliated how do you explain 7 bids for the Big East.... who is owned by FOX

(01-05-2015 02:19 PM)victory engineer Wrote:  IF ESPN is in the market to kill those not affiliated how do you explain 7 bids for the Big East.... who is owned by FOX

ESPN, whether intentional or not, will kill (or diminish) all but he Power 5. Exhibit A: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...ence-races

Its categorized as the Power 5 in hoops too and everyone else....

(01-01-2015 04:02 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-01-2015 03:16 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I get why they're not on the list, but I'm still very surprised by Memphis' struggles so far.

Last I looked, Memphis has won 5 straight, and Tulane is up next...

Oops.

(01-05-2015 07:21 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(01-01-2015 04:02 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-01-2015 03:16 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I get why they're not on the list, but I'm still very surprised by Memphis' struggles so far.

Last I looked, Memphis has won 5 straight, and Tulane is up next...

Oops.

Meh. A win at SMU would do wonders

Team Rankings has 4 AAC teams in the tournament field at this time, smu 6 seed, Cincy 6 seed, UConn 10 seed, Temple 11 seed. I think this is more accurate for whats been done so far this season.

(01-05-2015 11:37 PM)laser101 Wrote:  Team Rankings has 4 AAC teams in the tournament field at this time, smu 6 seed, Cincy 6 seed, UConn 10 seed, Temple 11 seed. I think this is more accurate for whats been done so far this season.

What is Team Rankings?

(01-06-2015 12:00 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 11:37 PM)laser101 Wrote:  Team Rankings has 4 AAC teams in the tournament field at this time, smu 6 seed, Cincy 6 seed, UConn 10 seed, Temple 11 seed. I think this is more accurate for whats been done so far this season.

What is Team Rankings?

I'm guessing this is what he's referring to.......

http://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-tournam...cketology/
Seed..Team......Record...Odds "in"/Odds #1/Odds Autobid
1 1 Kentucky (13-0) 30-1 100% 83% 99%
1 2 Duke (13-0) 28-3 100% 41% 69%
1 3 Wisconsin (14-1) 28-3 100% 44% 50%
1 4 Gonzaga (14-1) 29-2 100% 73% 45%
2 5 Virginia (13-0) 26-4 100% 18% 44%
2 6 Arizona (13-1) 27-4 100% 43% 19%
2 7 Villanova (13-1) 27-4 99% 44% 15%
2 8 N Carolina (11-3) 24-7 100% 21% 13%
3 9 Louisville (13-1) 26-5 100% 15% 11%
3 10 Wichita St (12-2) 26-4 98% 50% 2%
3 11 VCU (11-3) 25-6 99% 41% 2%
3 12 Utah (12-2) 24-6 99% 32% 3%
4 13 Ohio State (12-3) 25-6 99% 31% 2%
4 14 Kansas (11-2) 22-9 98% 16% 6%
4 15 Texas (12-2) 23-8 97% 21% 5%
4 16 W Virginia (13-1) 24-7 96% 17% 5%
5 17 Oklahoma (10-3) 21-9 95% 17% 3%
5 18 Maryland (14-1) 24-7 94% 6% 1%
5 19 Iowa State (10-2) 21-9 89% 16% 3%
5 20 Baylor (11-2) 22-9 86% 9% 1%
6 21 Arkansas (11-2) 23-8 85% 5% 1%
6 22 BYU (13-4) 25-6 94% 22% 0%
6 23 Cincinnati (10-3) 22-8 84% 17% 0%
6 24 S Methodist (10-4) 22-8 87% 23% 0%
7 25 Old Dominion (12-1) 26-4 85% 37% 0%
7 26 N Iowa (12-2) 25-5 84% 28% 0%
7 27 Butler (11-4) 22-9 81% 15% 0%
7 28 Stanford (10-3) 20-10 77% 9% 0%
8 29 Xavier (10-4) 20-11 64% 12% 0%
8 30 Florida (7-6) 19-12 72% 6% 0%
8 31 Geo Wshgtn (11-3) 23-8 75% 18% 0%
8 32 Notre Dame (14-1) 24-7 76% 3% 0%
9 33 Michigan St (9-5) 20-11 69% 6% 0%
9 34 Connecticut (7-5) 19-11 77% 40% 0%
9 35 San Diego St (11-4) 23-8 62% 29% 0%
9 36 Buffalo (9-3) 22-8 69% 34% 0%
10 37 Iowa (10-4) 20-11 66% 4% 0%
10 38 Illinois (10-5) 20-11 55% 4% 0%
10 39 Colorado St (14-1) 25-6 50% 17% 0%
10 40 Georgia (9-3) 19-11 58% 2% 0%
11 41 Seton Hall (12-2) 20-10 59% 6% 0%
11 42 Temple (11-4) 20-11 58% 6% 0%
11 43 S Carolina (9-3) 19-11 49% 2% 0%
11 44 Dayton (11-2) 22-8 49% 9% 0%
12 45 WI-Grn Bay (11-3) 23-7 61% 50% 0%
12 46 Davidson (10-2) 21-8 53% 12% 0%
12 47 Iona (9-5) 23-8 62% 50% 0%
12 48 Georgetown (9-4) 18-11 53% 9% 0%
12 49 Indiana (11-3) 20-11 45% 2% 0%
13 50 Georgia St (9-4) 24-7 72% 57% 0%
13 51 Harvard (8-3) 20-8 48% 43% 0%
13 52 Syracuse (10-4) 19-12 44% 1% 0%
13 53 Oklahoma St (11-2) 18-12 45% 3% 0%
13 54 Wofford (10-4) 23-8 44% 37% 0%
14 55 NC Central (10-5) 24-6 67% 67% 0%
14 56 Hofstra (10-4) 23-8 40% 37% 0%
14 57 Coastal Car (11-3) 24-6 61% 61% 0%
14 58 Murray St (11-4) 23-7 37% 36% 0%
15 59 N Mex State (7-9) 20-11 68% 68% 0%
15 60 Sam Hous St (9-4) 24-7 50% 49% 0%
15 61 UCSB (6-7) 19-11 38% 35% 0%
15 62 E Washingtn (11-4) 23-8 38% 35% 0%
16 63 TX Southern (4-10) 18-13 63% 63% 0%
16 64 SC Upstate (11-4) 24-7 53% 53% 0%
16 65 Stony Brook (9-6) 20-11 35% 35% 0%
16 66 St Fran (PA) (7-5) 19-10 28% 28% 0%
16 67 Lafayette (9-4) 19-10 26% 23% 0%
16 68 S Dakota St (9-7) 18-12 23% 23% 0%

Sorry but SMU and Cincy are not six seeds. How is Temple an 11 seed after beating Kansas and Uconn? Are these the bizarro rankings?

Thanks for the link, OldTiger…

Have y'all heard of this site?: http://masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm

Rankings of all 351 Division I teams updated weekly (Mondays), currently showing

42. SMU
43. Cincinnati
54. UConn
61. Temple
etc.

(01-06-2015 12:39 AM)thefinglonger Wrote:  Sorry but SMU and Cincy are not six seeds. How is Temple an 11 seed after beating Kansas and Uconn? Are these the bizarro rankings?

Are you sure about that, why do you think those teams don't belong there?

(01-06-2015 01:00 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Thanks for the link, OldTiger…

Have y'all heard of this site?: http://masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm

Rankings of all 351 Division I teams updated weekly (Mondays), currently showing

42. SMU
43. Cincinnati
54. UConn
61. Temple
etc.

...and I think Massey is accepted by most fans as being pretty close to accurate.

While "Team Rankings" may be a basketball junkie's haven for numbers, I wasn't personally familiar with it at all. I just found it after laser used it as his reference for numbers.

(01-06-2015 01:31 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 01:00 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Thanks for the link, OldTiger…

Have y'all heard of this site?: http://masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm

Rankings of all 351 Division I teams updated weekly (Mondays), currently showing

42. SMU
43. Cincinnati
54. UConn
61. Temple
etc.

...and I think Massey is accepted by most fans as being pretty close to accurate.

While "Team Rankings" may be a basketball junkie's haven for numbers, I wasn't personally familiar with it at all. I just found it after laser used it as his reference for numbers.

I'm just now realizing that Team Rankings is actually one of the 38 different component ratings used for Massey.

(01-06-2015 01:33 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 01:31 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 01:00 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Thanks for the link, OldTiger…

Have y'all heard of this site?: http://masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm

Rankings of all 351 Division I teams updated weekly (Mondays), currently showing

42. SMU
43. Cincinnati
54. UConn
61. Temple
etc.

...and I think Massey is accepted by most fans as being pretty close to accurate.

While "Team Rankings" may be a basketball junkie's haven for numbers, I wasn't personally familiar with it at all. I just found it after laser used it as his reference for numbers.

I'm just now realizing that Team Rankings is actually one of the 38 different component ratings used for Massey.

Espn uses it also, it's listed on their website.

(01-06-2015 01:31 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 01:00 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Thanks for the link, OldTiger…

Have y'all heard of this site?: http://masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm

Rankings of all 351 Division I teams updated weekly (Mondays), currently showing

42. SMU
43. Cincinnati
54. UConn
61. Temple
etc.

...and I think Massey is accepted by most fans as being pretty close to accurate.

While "Team Rankings" may be a basketball junkie's haven for numbers, I wasn't personally familiar with it at all. I just found it after laser used it as his reference for numbers.

Massey has too many outliers for my liking. It's nice to look at but can't be taken as gospel IMO.