Georgia Tech is leading Mississippi State, 35-20, as I type this message. Notre Dame beat LSU the other day. The strength of the SEC is in serious question at this point.

Georgia tech is running through miss st like prune juice does to my grandma

8 team playoff...then again we'd get 3 or 4 overrated SEC teams. LOL

8 teams in the playoff:

1) five conference champions
2) two at large teams
3) one G5 team

That's not what I want. That's where I think this is headed and I think it's the best the G5 can hope for.

(12-31-2014 11:40 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  8 teams in the playoff:

1) five conference champions
2) two at large teams
3) one G5 team

That's not what I want. That's where I think this is headed and I think it's the best the G5 can hope for.

I agree...I think that would also drive the AAC/MWC to merge.

The G5 winner would likely have to finish in the Top 15.

thanks playoff committee for all the crappy bowl games



ole miss v tcu, seriously....seriously. miss state v gatech, pathetic

smh

They should do 12. Top 7 Conferences their champion gets a autobid. Use computers to rate the conferences. Then 5 autobids.

Top 4 conference champions get a 1st round bye and host round 2 games.

Top conference champion 5 and 6 become cede 5/6 automatically

Cede the rest..... 5-8 host vs 9-12. .......

Cede playoff each round.....

Semi finals and Finals on a neutral field.

No team may have more than 1 FCS game on their resume. If the seven conference champion does not have minimum of 9 wins then it becomes a At Large.

A valid argument for the 4-team format is that the 5 conferences will play harder to get in ala musical chairs. They will improve their OOC schedules and conferences, overall.

If conference winners receive automatic bids, then you could have a weak conference winner in while a better 2nd place team is left out.

There's really no perfect solution - there will always be issues.

(12-31-2014 11:31 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  8 team playoff...then again we'd get 3 or 4 overrated SEC teams. LOL

this

(01-01-2015 07:31 AM)mac6115cd Wrote:  A valid argument for the 4-team format is that the 5 conferences will play harder to get in ala musical chairs. They will improve their OOC schedules and conferences, overall.

If conference winners receive automatic bids, then you could have a weak conference winner in while a better 2nd place team is left out.

There's really no perfect solution - there will always be issues.

I agree, if autobids go out to the P5, the OOC schedule will look even worse for the top teams trying to get the most cream puffs since SOS goes out the window.

College football will never be fair untell teams are not permitted to have 8 home games while other teams due to there status can only have 6 home games. The so called neutral site games for certain P5 teams are always held at sites where there fan base is strong or an easy drive to the game.

(12-31-2014 03:41 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-31-2014 03:33 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  TCU is destroying the SEC power Mississippi 42-0. If this doesn't send the message that 4 teams is not enough then nothing will.

I'm still trying to figure out how a team from the B10, SEC, P12, etc. can definitively say they are better then teams from parts of the country they did not compete on the playing field.

For example, the University of Florida has not played an OOC game on the road in decades. How can any determination be made that they where better the B10 or P12 teams when they won the fictitious NC with Tebow?

Agree. My guess is an 8 team playoff is less than 5 years away. TCU's performance says loud and clear that eliminating any power conference champ is a fools errand. AQ for all 5 champs, AQ for top G5 champ, and 2 wild cards.

A 8 team playoff with AQ's for all 5 P5 champs and the top G champ effectively does exactly what the NCAA tournament does--it creates an AUTOMATIC path to playoffs for every team making the selection committee nothing more than a "second chance" option for a few deserving teams.

In the NCAA Tournament---the committee controls 30 something slots, in football--it will just control two slots. Still, there will be complaining, but at least every team has a route to the playoff where the committee has no control. Win your conference and you are in. Be the best of the G5 and you are in. If you didn't win your conference, well---you get what you get. At least the wild cards give a couple of deserving teams new life. I think the 8 team model will be here much sooner than many believe.

By the way, I think the Playoff needs to require each conference to determine ONE champion. Do it with a game or use tie breakers---that's up to the conference. But if there is AQ for conference champions, then there can only be one champ for each conference and the criteria for determining that ONE TRUE CHAMPION need to be established prior to the start of each season.

Excellent points. Especially when you consider that (1) the Big XII co-champ ran away with the Peach Bowl, and (2) the highest-ranked G5 champ, Boise St, did in fact win the Fiesta Bowl. Those are strong arguments in favor of 8 teams.

The Orange Bowl makes a different argument - one in favor of automatic bids instead of letting some committee pick the "best" teams (in THEIR opinion). The way they fawned over the SEC all season and now watching LSU, Ole Miss and Miss State all go down in flames just proves that is no way to pick playoff teams!

(12-31-2014 10:57 PM)C-Mac Wrote:  Georgia tech is running through miss st like prune juice does to my grandma

One of the great SEC defense Miss St gave up 450 yards rushing to GT. The SEC overall a peers to be over rated. We will see what happens when Wisconsin and Auburn plays today. Don't forget Wisconsin lost to Ohio St 59 to 0. The Big 10 is another over rated league top down Your second or third best team shouldn't lose 59 to 0.

(01-01-2015 12:49 PM)kyucat Wrote:  

(12-31-2014 10:57 PM)C-Mac Wrote:  Georgia tech is running through miss st like prune juice does to my grandma

One of the great SEC defense Miss St gave up 450 yards rushing to GT. The SEC overall a peers to be over rated. We will see what happens when Wisconsin and Auburn plays today. Don't forget Wisconsin lost to Ohio St 59 to 0. The Big 10 is another over rated league top down Your second or third best team shouldn't lose 59 to 0.

Had this been similar to selection into the Basketball tourney, Auburn might have struggled to make the tourney. Finishing strong is a criteria for selection. They have lost 4 of the last 7 games. Another criteria is winning on the road. Auburn has won only 2 road games all year.

Not only did this weakly qualified Auburn team get a bowl game but they were rewarded with a New Year's day game.

(01-01-2015 02:59 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(01-01-2015 12:49 PM)kyucat Wrote:  

(12-31-2014 10:57 PM)C-Mac Wrote:  Georgia tech is running through miss st like prune juice does to my grandma

One of the great SEC defense Miss St gave up 450 yards rushing to GT. The SEC overall a peers to be over rated. We will see what happens when Wisconsin and Auburn plays today. Don't forget Wisconsin lost to Ohio St 59 to 0. The Big 10 is another over rated league top down Your second or third best team shouldn't lose 59 to 0.

Had this been similar to selection into the Basketball tourney, Auburn might have struggled to make the tourney. Finishing strong is a criteria for selection. They have lost 4 of the last 7 games. Another criteria is winning on the road. Auburn has won only 2 road games all year.

Not only did this weakly qualified Auburn team get a bowl game but they were rewarded with a New Year's day game.

First off... Life isn't fair. Sorry.

Secondly, whether Auburn "deserves" a New Years Day game or not has absolutely no bearing on any of the teams in the AAC. If Auburn wasn't there, none of our teams would be. So, I'm not really quite sure what all the angst is about.

(01-01-2015 03:04 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(01-01-2015 02:59 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(01-01-2015 12:49 PM)kyucat Wrote:  

(12-31-2014 10:57 PM)C-Mac Wrote:  Georgia tech is running through miss st like prune juice does to my grandma

One of the great SEC defense Miss St gave up 450 yards rushing to GT. The SEC overall a peers to be over rated. We will see what happens when Wisconsin and Auburn plays today. Don't forget Wisconsin lost to Ohio St 59 to 0. The Big 10 is another over rated league top down Your second or third best team shouldn't lose 59 to 0.

Had this been similar to selection into the Basketball tourney, Auburn might have struggled to make the tourney. Finishing strong is a criteria for selection. They have lost 4 of the last 7 games. Another criteria is winning on the road. Auburn has won only 2 road games all year.

Not only did this weakly qualified Auburn team get a bowl game but they were rewarded with a New Year's day game.

First off... Life isn't fair. Sorry.

Secondly, whether Auburn "deserves" a New Years Day game or not has absolutely no bearing on any of the teams in the AAC. If Auburn wasn't there, none of our teams would be. So, I'm not really quite sure what all the angst is about.

Ah, you're responding to a "Playoffs are a Joke" thread. My post further illustrated that when you consider how close Auburn was to making the playoffs. After all, they were ranked 3rd as late as week 12.

I'm not sure what you don't understand, considering what the thread is.

I know that this is not how it works but with Oregon destroying FSU and Boise handling Arizona, who beat Oregon, doesn't that mean that Boise might be able to handle either FSU or Oregon?

Following this circle of logic, it's pretty clear that the G5 can compete with the P5.

I like 4 team playoff. Every game matters.

If you expand, you end up making conference champs auto bids.

Looks like the CFP committee got it right.

(01-02-2015 08:41 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  Looks like the CFP committee got it right.

How? I disagree. Prove that TCU couldn't beat any or all of the 4 teams. Did any of those teams ever beat TCU this college football season?

Ohio State, for that matter, was absolutely given the football game against PSU. They should have 2 losses and not even be there. It was blatant referee calls, or none calls, that won Ohio State the game. I like to call it, the 2014 version of Colorado's 5th down fiasco that ultimately won them a fictitious NC.

http://btn.com/2014/10/27/video-big-ten-...ate-calls/