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Bowlsby:B12 still pursuing champ game deregulation
Bowlsby repeated they would seek approval to stage a championship game with only 10 teams, but was unclear how they'd go about the process. In a recent story published by the San Diego Union-Tribune, former conference commissioners Wright Waters (Sun Belt) and Tom Hansen (PAC-12) scoffed at the notion other leagues would acquiesce when several leagues expanded in part to reach the 12-team threshold needed for holding a title game.

"Relative to the process, it's actually a great question right now because as you know the NCAA governance process has recently been restructured," Bowlsby said in the radio interview. "Previously, John Swofford and the ACC and I had asked the Board of Directors to consider deregulating the rules around conference playoff games... Relative to the rule, in the new day, it's not clear if the board can deal with that on a unilateral basis or whether it'll have to go into the governance structure through the NCAA council. We are asking those questions right now. We think that this is the kind of thing that could be handled in one form or another by next football season. But it isn't clear exactly where we access the system right now and at the January convention that's one of the things that we'll be working our way through."

Bowlsby then added if expansion was to be considered at some point, they'd likely look east and not west. Presumably, that would put schools like UCF, USF, Cincinnati, Memphis and UConn more in play and perhaps could rule out western candidates such as BYU and Boise State.

"We have one member in West Virginia that's on the East Coast," Bowlsby said. "We have to be mindful of their situation. If we took somebody in that was on the far West Coast it would certainly do a disservice to our member in West Virginia. As I mentioned earlier, it may be a different set of criteria to some of our members than it is to other members. As the commissioner, I certainly have to take all 10 institutions and their sensitivities into play."

"We don't have any schools on our radar at the present time," Bowlsby said. "As you know, the Grant of Rights was noted earlier in the previous question. Our institutions all have granted their rights to the Big 12. Several other conferences have Grants of Rights. There are some institutions that are essentially off the table. We don't have any expansion initiative. We don't have any list of prospects. We don't have any plans to expand. As our athletic directors, our CEOs, talk about what the model looks like, talk about the challenges of the future and talk about the immediate past experience we had with the playoff, you know, those are things that are going to get discussed. But we don't have any list. We don't have any initiative. I would say that the status quo is by far the most attractive status to most of our members."

Orlando Sentinel columnist Mike Bianchi
12-20-2014 09:22 AM
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Just don't think they will allow any league to have a CCG at 10 schools...time will tell.
12-20-2014 12:04 PM
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give it up Big XII and get 12 teams like everyone else
12-22-2014 09:28 AM
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Bottom line: they're sticking with 10 until Texas and/or Oklahoma get snubbed at 11-1.
12-22-2014 09:38 AM
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(12-22-2014 09:38 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  Bottom line: they're sticking with 10 until Texas and/or Oklahoma get snubbed at 11-1.

Should be a fun ride for them!03-nutkick

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12-22-2014 03:09 PM
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Bottom line, waite until Kansas leaves for the Big 10! 07-coffee3
12-24-2014 09:49 AM
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They don't want to go back to dealing out 12 school money due to the greed of the almighty dollar. When the others left ( Colorado, ATM, Mizzu, Nebraska ) FOX told them they can keep the 12 school money and just deal it out amongst their 10 schools. FOX didn't want to renegotiate the contract so they told them they would be okay with the Big12 dividing up the 12 school money 10 ways. Greed not to mention Texas not wanting to expand.

I hope the NCAA never grants them a chance of playing CCG with only 10 schools. This is just another way for them to manipulate the system that is in place with playing a CCG with 12 schools. They are hoping by sponsoring the ACC with their hopes of playing a CCG with no division that the NCAA will let them do same. I hope the NCAA tells any conference 14 teams or more can play a CCG without divisions, and conferences with 12 schools and no less can host a CCG. Any conference with fewer schools than 12 will not be able to host a CCG as it is now.
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The ACC asked for an exception when they had 11 teams. The answer was a unanimous no. I hope the B12 gets the same answer.

That being said, I'm wondering if the B12 is waiting for the autonomy measures to pass, hoping they will fare better with just the P5 vs the rest of the NCAA?
12-25-2014 03:24 PM
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(12-25-2014 02:59 PM)BigOwensboroCard Wrote:  They don't want to go back to dealing out 12 school money due to the greed of the almighty dollar. When the others left ( Colorado, ATM, Mizzu, Nebraska ) FOX told them they can keep the 12 school money and just deal it out amongst their 10 schools. FOX didn't want to renegotiate the contract so they told them they would be okay with the Big12 dividing up the 12 school money 10 ways. Greed not to mention Texas not wanting to expand.

I hope the NCAA never grants them a chance of playing CCG with only 10 schools. This is just another way for them to manipulate the system that is in place with playing a CCG with 12 schools. They are hoping by sponsoring the ACC with their hopes of playing a CCG with no division that the NCAA will let them do same. I hope the NCAA tells any conference 14 teams or more can play a CCG without divisions, and conferences with 12 schools and no less can host a CCG. Any conference with fewer schools than 12 will not be able to host a CCG as it is now.

FWIW, the ACC + ND, SEC, and B1G make up 43/65 P5 schools, which is one school short of a super majority. BYU would make is 44/66, which is a super majority. I'm not sure if we would need a majority for your 14 school conference proposal to pass or a super majority. But, if it's a super majority situation, things could get interesting, and BYU will have a ton of power.
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(12-25-2014 04:12 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(12-25-2014 02:59 PM)BigOwensboroCard Wrote:  They don't want to go back to dealing out 12 school money due to the greed of the almighty dollar. When the others left ( Colorado, ATM, Mizzu, Nebraska ) FOX told them they can keep the 12 school money and just deal it out amongst their 10 schools. FOX didn't want to renegotiate the contract so they told them they would be okay with the Big12 dividing up the 12 school money 10 ways. Greed not to mention Texas not wanting to expand.

I hope the NCAA never grants them a chance of playing CCG with only 10 schools. This is just another way for them to manipulate the system that is in place with playing a CCG with 12 schools. They are hoping by sponsoring the ACC with their hopes of playing a CCG with no division that the NCAA will let them do same. I hope the NCAA tells any conference 14 teams or more can play a CCG without divisions, and conferences with 12 schools and no less can host a CCG. Any conference with fewer schools than 12 will not be able to host a CCG as it is now.

FWIW, the ACC + ND, SEC, and B1G make up 43/65 P5 schools, which is one school short of a super majority. BYU would make is 44/66, which is a super majority. I'm not sure if we would need a majority for your 14 school conference proposal to pass or a super majority. But, if it's a super majority situation, things could get interesting, and BYU will have a ton of power.

Has the 14 team, "no division requirement for CCG" proposal even been submitted?
12-25-2014 04:27 PM
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(12-25-2014 03:24 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  The ACC asked for an exception when they had 11 teams. The answer was a unanimous no. I hope the B12 gets the same answer.

That being said, I'm wondering if the B12 is waiting for the autonomy measures to pass, hoping they will fare better with just the P5 vs the rest of the NCAA?

Many B12 fans and particularly WV fans think their ace in the hole will be former WV AD, Oliver Luck since he will now be part of the Ncaa.
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(12-25-2014 04:27 PM)Dasville Wrote:  
(12-25-2014 04:12 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(12-25-2014 02:59 PM)BigOwensboroCard Wrote:  They don't want to go back to dealing out 12 school money due to the greed of the almighty dollar. When the others left ( Colorado, ATM, Mizzu, Nebraska ) FOX told them they can keep the 12 school money and just deal it out amongst their 10 schools. FOX didn't want to renegotiate the contract so they told them they would be okay with the Big12 dividing up the 12 school money 10 ways. Greed not to mention Texas not wanting to expand.

I hope the NCAA never grants them a chance of playing CCG with only 10 schools. This is just another way for them to manipulate the system that is in place with playing a CCG with 12 schools. They are hoping by sponsoring the ACC with their hopes of playing a CCG with no division that the NCAA will let them do same. I hope the NCAA tells any conference 14 teams or more can play a CCG without divisions, and conferences with 12 schools and no less can host a CCG. Any conference with fewer schools than 12 will not be able to host a CCG as it is now.

FWIW, the ACC + ND, SEC, and B1G make up 43/65 P5 schools, which is one school short of a super majority. BYU would make is 44/66, which is a super majority. I'm not sure if we would need a majority for your 14 school conference proposal to pass or a super majority. But, if it's a super majority situation, things could get interesting, and BYU will have a ton of power.

Has the 14 team, "no division requirement for CCG" proposal even been submitted?

Yes it's been submitted and the NCAA made some sort of commit about it, but not sure WHEN they were going to atcually look at other than after the FB season. The Big12 is hoping that sponsoring the proposal will help them also, but IMO they are only looking to manipulate the system on their behalf. I hope the NCAA states conference of 14 or more can play with or without divisions, but conferences with less than 12 will not be permitted to host a CCG.
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They can deregulate how the participants are chosen without dropping the requirement that a conference has at least 12 members to have a CCG.
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