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RE: It's too bad many of the fans of this conference...
(12-18-2014 10:48 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 10:44 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 10:09 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 09:42 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Fresh boiled lobster with a side of butter is very tasty.

I pull for AAC teams for the most part, but not to the level you guy feel we all should. A lot of sensitive folks take things way too personal.

Before I get ripped, I have educated countless people in SEC country on this conference. Bottom line, we are all hardcore fans and most people could care less.....especially in the South.

I follow UCONN, and UCONN only. What I don't do, unlike like that (alleged) Memphis fan, is come on here and put fans of other schools on blast. Nor do I comment in non-UCONN game threads, unless someone is being really really stupid.

Note: Yes, I'm aware that I just contradicted myself. However, this should be the only time I address this particular point.

Just you.

I guess you never said this.....
Quote:I'm here to talk about Memphis, if you don't like that, that's your problem.
So in your mind that isn't putting fans of other schools on blast? Also, you don't root for anybody. It says so just under your screen name.

No, just you.
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Well, no one has tried to make this thread about ecu yet.


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RE: It's too bad many of the fans of this conference...
(12-18-2014 11:46 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 10:48 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 10:44 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 10:09 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 09:42 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Fresh boiled lobster with a side of butter is very tasty.

I pull for AAC teams for the most part, but not to the level you guy feel we all should. A lot of sensitive folks take things way too personal.

Before I get ripped, I have educated countless people in SEC country on this conference. Bottom line, we are all hardcore fans and most people could care less.....especially in the South.

I follow UCONN, and UCONN only. What I don't do, unlike like that (alleged) Memphis fan, is come on here and put fans of other schools on blast. Nor do I comment in non-UCONN game threads, unless someone is being really really stupid.

Note: Yes, I'm aware that I just contradicted myself. However, this should be the only time I address this particular point.

Just you.

I guess you never said this.....
Quote:I'm here to talk about Memphis, if you don't like that, that's your problem.
So in your mind that isn't putting fans of other schools on blast? Also, you don't root for anybody. It says so just under your screen name.

No, just you.

So to summarize, you root for no school. What it doesn't say under your screen name, is what it DOES say. Which is nothing.

Good to know. Thanks.
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RE: It's too bad many of the fans of this conference...
(12-19-2014 12:15 AM)ncbeta Wrote:  Well, no one has tried to make this thread about ecu yet.


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RE: It's too bad many of the fans of this conference...
(12-19-2014 12:22 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 11:46 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 10:48 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 10:44 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 10:09 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  I follow UCONN, and UCONN only. What I don't do, unlike like that (alleged) Memphis fan, is come on here and put fans of other schools on blast. Nor do I comment in non-UCONN game threads, unless someone is being really really stupid.

Note: Yes, I'm aware that I just contradicted myself. However, this should be the only time I address this particular point.

Just you.

I guess you never said this.....
Quote:I'm here to talk about Memphis, if you don't like that, that's your problem.
So in your mind that isn't putting fans of other schools on blast? Also, you don't root for anybody. It says so just under your screen name.

No, just you.

So to summarize, you root for no school. What it doesn't say under your screen name, is what it DOES say. Which is nothing.

Good to know. Thanks.

Make your own conclusions if you must, can't trace any of that back to me. I think you're just pretending to be a UConn fan and lying about who you root for so you can (attempt to) troll me.
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RE: It's too bad many of the fans of this conference...
(12-18-2014 01:35 PM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 01:19 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 12:55 PM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  Let me see if I can understand some of you folks' logic.

This conference stinks. This conference stinks because all of the teams in it stink. Outsiders know we stink and nothing we say or do is going to change their mind. They are right about us. We don't deserve to be in a better conference we deserve to be where we are. If we were any good we wouldn't be in this conference.

My team is good. It is good despite the fact that this conference stinks. Outsiders think we stink too but we can change their mind about that. They are wrong about us. We deserve to be in a better conference. We are too good to be in this conference but people just haven't opened their eyes to it yet.

Do I have that just about right?

No the logic is this:
-1) I root for "my team" regardless of who is in the conference.
-2) "I" don't want to be in this conference, but "I" am powerless over that anyway.
-3) Furthermore, regardless of whether "I" like this conference or not, "I" personally do not like the other schools that happen to inhabit this conference with "my" preferred school.
-4) What is more, how "the conference" does in it's other games will not help "my" school nor "me."
----->THEREFORE:
A) I am happy for "my school."
B) I will not spend a minute rooting for the other schools in "the conference" especially if I don't like them... AND
C) I will not feel guilty about not rooting for "the conference" or "School X" or "School Y" or "School Z".

It has nothing to do with "This conference stinks." or "My school doesn't 'belong' in this conference." It doesn't have to do with some analogy of Lobsters trying to get out of the pot, and therefore trying to knock down another school. Even if the NCAA said: "No further conference shifts...EVER..." thereby freezing UC into the AAC with no further appeals, I still would not root for 9-of-the-(soon to be)-11 other schools in the conference.


Interesting. I bet a 10-0 Marshall that wasn't ranked because of SOS was wishing C-USA schools had done better. News flash: it's better for Cincinnati to beat an ECU (for example) that went 4-0 OOC than 0-4. I think you an others are confused about what "rooting" for other AAC teams means. It's not like you take a vested interest in the team and live and die by their results like you do for your own team.

For example why would a Cincinnati fan want their school to move to the Big 12? Because they think those teams are better right? So assuming that doesn't happen why wouldn't you want the AAC teams to win so that you could be in a better AAC?
In the short term it is better for Cincy to beat a 4-0 ECU. In the long run an 0-4 ECU is one less team fighting us to be first in line to get out. I could see either side of this one. Generally, I root for AAC teams but I'm not sure it really helps my school.
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(12-19-2014 12:15 AM)ncbeta Wrote:  Well, no one has tried to make this thread about ecu yet.


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(12-19-2014 11:19 AM)eastside cat Wrote:  
(12-19-2014 12:15 AM)ncbeta Wrote:  Well, no one has tried to make this thread about ecu yet.


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RE: It's too bad many of the fans of this conference...
(12-19-2014 09:43 AM)uccheese Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 01:35 PM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 01:19 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 12:55 PM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  Let me see if I can understand some of you folks' logic.

This conference stinks. This conference stinks because all of the teams in it stink. Outsiders know we stink and nothing we say or do is going to change their mind. They are right about us. We don't deserve to be in a better conference we deserve to be where we are. If we were any good we wouldn't be in this conference.

My team is good. It is good despite the fact that this conference stinks. Outsiders think we stink too but we can change their mind about that. They are wrong about us. We deserve to be in a better conference. We are too good to be in this conference but people just haven't opened their eyes to it yet.

Do I have that just about right?

No the logic is this:
-1) I root for "my team" regardless of who is in the conference.
-2) "I" don't want to be in this conference, but "I" am powerless over that anyway.
-3) Furthermore, regardless of whether "I" like this conference or not, "I" personally do not like the other schools that happen to inhabit this conference with "my" preferred school.
-4) What is more, how "the conference" does in it's other games will not help "my" school nor "me."
----->THEREFORE:
A) I am happy for "my school."
B) I will not spend a minute rooting for the other schools in "the conference" especially if I don't like them... AND
C) I will not feel guilty about not rooting for "the conference" or "School X" or "School Y" or "School Z".

It has nothing to do with "This conference stinks." or "My school doesn't 'belong' in this conference." It doesn't have to do with some analogy of Lobsters trying to get out of the pot, and therefore trying to knock down another school. Even if the NCAA said: "No further conference shifts...EVER..." thereby freezing UC into the AAC with no further appeals, I still would not root for 9-of-the-(soon to be)-11 other schools in the conference.


Interesting. I bet a 10-0 Marshall that wasn't ranked because of SOS was wishing C-USA schools had done better. News flash: it's better for Cincinnati to beat an ECU (for example) that went 4-0 OOC than 0-4. I think you an others are confused about what "rooting" for other AAC teams means. It's not like you take a vested interest in the team and live and die by their results like you do for your own team.

For example why would a Cincinnati fan want their school to move to the Big 12? Because they think those teams are better right? So assuming that doesn't happen why wouldn't you want the AAC teams to win so that you could be in a better AAC?
In the short term it is better for Cincy to beat a 4-0 ECU. In the long run an 0-4 ECU is one less team fighting us to be first in line to get out. I could see either side of this one. Generally, I root for AAC teams but I'm not sure it really helps my school.

Do you really think that beating up on 0-4 teams will even get you in line to move up? But even if they are 0-4 don't you want them to be thought of as better than they are?
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Why would anyone support another program? Even if we are conference mates.

The P-5 has pitted us against each other. The entire G-5 fights all season long for 1 access bowl slot. Our money is horrible compared to the P-5, so everyone wants their team to get into a P-5 conference just so we can survive long term and have the ability to compete consistenly at the highest level for real prizes.

Going 9-3 with a Conference championship will get you a low payout bowl here. Nothing special overall about it.

No offense to anyone who thinks otherwise, and Im not trying to start an argument. Point still remains though. Either get into the P-5, or as a conference find a way to get into the incrowd or have fun becominig the New FCS.

That's the reality of the G-5. We are against each other just the way the P-5 intended.

If you wanna blame someone, blame the P-5 and OUR leadership. There is no victory in getting 1 measely little slot out of 12 when our conferences represent over half of Division 1A football.

Why would anyone support Memphis, Cincy, USF or UCF right now when they are the main candidates talked about for expansion? WHy would anyone support Houston when they could go or SMU or anyone else?

Even if none of the rumors are true, as fans you would more than likely want those teams to do bad, or not want anything good to happen to them at the expense of you being left out.

It's the world we live in.
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RE: It's too bad many of the fans of this conference...
(12-19-2014 01:14 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  Why would anyone support another program? Even if we are conference mates.

The P-5 has pitted us against each other. The entire G-5 fights all season long for 1 access bowl slot. Our money is horrible compared to the P-5, so everyone wants their team to get into a P-5 conference just so we can survive long term and have the ability to compete consistenly at the highest level for real prizes.

Going 9-3 with a Conference championship will get you a low payout bowl here. Nothing special overall about it.

No offense to anyone who thinks otherwise, and Im not trying to start an argument. Point still remains though. Either get into the P-5, or as a conference find a way to get into the incrowd or have fun becominig the New FCS.

That's the reality of the G-5. We are against each other just the way the P-5 intended.

If you wanna blame someone, blame the P-5 and OUR leadership. There is no victory in getting 1 measely little slot out of 12 when our conferences represent over half of Division 1A football.

Why would anyone support Memphis, Cincy, USF or UCF right now when they are the main candidates talked about for expansion? WHy would anyone support Houston when they could go or SMU or anyone else?

Even if none of the rumors are true, as fans you would more than likely want those teams to do bad, or not want anything good to happen to them at the expense of you being left out.

It's the world we live in.

That's a short term vision imo. Eventually we can all improve and improve the TV dollars and Bowl tie-ins. I get the "hooray for me, and f#ck you" attitude, but as each team gets better, the conference will improve by default.
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RE: It's too bad many of the fans of this conference...
(12-19-2014 02:01 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(12-19-2014 01:14 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  Why would anyone support another program? Even if we are conference mates.

The P-5 has pitted us against each other. The entire G-5 fights all season long for 1 access bowl slot. Our money is horrible compared to the P-5, so everyone wants their team to get into a P-5 conference just so we can survive long term and have the ability to compete consistenly at the highest level for real prizes.

Going 9-3 with a Conference championship will get you a low payout bowl here. Nothing special overall about it.

No offense to anyone who thinks otherwise, and Im not trying to start an argument. Point still remains though. Either get into the P-5, or as a conference find a way to get into the incrowd or have fun becominig the New FCS.

That's the reality of the G-5. We are against each other just the way the P-5 intended.

If you wanna blame someone, blame the P-5 and OUR leadership. There is no victory in getting 1 measely little slot out of 12 when our conferences represent over half of Division 1A football.

Why would anyone support Memphis, Cincy, USF or UCF right now when they are the main candidates talked about for expansion? WHy would anyone support Houston when they could go or SMU or anyone else?

Even if none of the rumors are true, as fans you would more than likely want those teams to do bad, or not want anything good to happen to them at the expense of you being left out.

It's the world we live in.

That's a short term vision imo. Eventually we can all improve and improve the TV dollars and Bowl tie-ins. I get the "hooray for me, and f#ck you" attitude, but as each team gets better, the conference will improve by default.
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(12-19-2014 02:01 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(12-19-2014 01:14 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  Why would anyone support another program? Even if we are conference mates.

The P-5 has pitted us against each other. The entire G-5 fights all season long for 1 access bowl slot. Our money is horrible compared to the P-5, so everyone wants their team to get into a P-5 conference just so we can survive long term and have the ability to compete consistenly at the highest level for real prizes.

Going 9-3 with a Conference championship will get you a low payout bowl here. Nothing special overall about it.

No offense to anyone who thinks otherwise, and Im not trying to start an argument. Point still remains though. Either get into the P-5, or as a conference find a way to get into the incrowd or have fun becominig the New FCS.

That's the reality of the G-5. We are against each other just the way the P-5 intended.

If you wanna blame someone, blame the P-5 and OUR leadership. There is no victory in getting 1 measely little slot out of 12 when our conferences represent over half of Division 1A football.

Why would anyone support Memphis, Cincy, USF or UCF right now when they are the main candidates talked about for expansion? WHy would anyone support Houston when they could go or SMU or anyone else?

Even if none of the rumors are true, as fans you would more than likely want those teams to do bad, or not want anything good to happen to them at the expense of you being left out.

It's the world we live in.

That's a short term vision imo. Eventually we can all improve and improve the TV dollars and Bowl tie-ins. I get the "hooray for me, and f#ck you" attitude, but as each team gets better, the conference will improve by default.

These wordsare words that can only be written by a fan of a school that didn't play in the Big East.
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(12-19-2014 04:04 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  
(12-19-2014 02:01 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(12-19-2014 01:14 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  Why would anyone support another program? Even if we are conference mates.

The P-5 has pitted us against each other. The entire G-5 fights all season long for 1 access bowl slot. Our money is horrible compared to the P-5, so everyone wants their team to get into a P-5 conference just so we can survive long term and have the ability to compete consistenly at the highest level for real prizes.

Going 9-3 with a Conference championship will get you a low payout bowl here. Nothing special overall about it.

No offense to anyone who thinks otherwise, and Im not trying to start an argument. Point still remains though. Either get into the P-5, or as a conference find a way to get into the incrowd or have fun becominig the New FCS.

That's the reality of the G-5. We are against each other just the way the P-5 intended.

If you wanna blame someone, blame the P-5 and OUR leadership. There is no victory in getting 1 measely little slot out of 12 when our conferences represent over half of Division 1A football.

Why would anyone support Memphis, Cincy, USF or UCF right now when they are the main candidates talked about for expansion? WHy would anyone support Houston when they could go or SMU or anyone else?

Even if none of the rumors are true, as fans you would more than likely want those teams to do bad, or not want anything good to happen to them at the expense of you being left out.

It's the world we live in.

That's a short term vision imo. Eventually we can all improve and improve the TV dollars and Bowl tie-ins. I get the "hooray for me, and f#ck you" attitude, but as each team gets better, the conference will improve by default.

These wordsare words that can only be written by a fan of a school that didn't play in the Big East.

Big East football is dead. Adapt or die.
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(12-19-2014 04:04 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  
(12-19-2014 02:01 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(12-19-2014 01:14 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  Why would anyone support another program? Even if we are conference mates.

The P-5 has pitted us against each other. The entire G-5 fights all season long for 1 access bowl slot. Our money is horrible compared to the P-5, so everyone wants their team to get into a P-5 conference just so we can survive long term and have the ability to compete consistenly at the highest level for real prizes.

Going 9-3 with a Conference championship will get you a low payout bowl here. Nothing special overall about it.

No offense to anyone who thinks otherwise, and Im not trying to start an argument. Point still remains though. Either get into the P-5, or as a conference find a way to get into the incrowd or have fun becominig the New FCS.

That's the reality of the G-5. We are against each other just the way the P-5 intended.

If you wanna blame someone, blame the P-5 and OUR leadership. There is no victory in getting 1 measely little slot out of 12 when our conferences represent over half of Division 1A football.

Why would anyone support Memphis, Cincy, USF or UCF right now when they are the main candidates talked about for expansion? WHy would anyone support Houston when they could go or SMU or anyone else?

Even if none of the rumors are true, as fans you would more than likely want those teams to do bad, or not want anything good to happen to them at the expense of you being left out.

It's the world we live in.

That's a short term vision imo. Eventually we can all improve and improve the TV dollars and Bowl tie-ins. I get the "hooray for me, and f#ck you" attitude, but as each team gets better, the conference will improve by default.

These wordsare words that can only be written by a fan of a school that didn't play in the Big East.

Totally agree... they have no idea.
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(12-18-2014 11:22 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 10:38 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  It's too bad many of the fans of this conference...

See, your premise is flawed right there. I am NOT a "fan of this conference," I am a fan of the University of Cincinnati. At best this conference serves a utilitarian purpose of helping each team by associating with other, like teams. (ie. a rising tide floats all boats.) AT BEST.

This idea that you need to "be a fan of the conference"... I don't get it. You pull for your team. If you want to pull for a second, that's fine. But to "pull for the conference"??? Sorry, but realignment aside for a moment, I still dislike 9 of the other schools in this conference...even if UC is stuck for eternity with them.

Besides, as we who were in the Big East learned, "the conference" results will never be applied in a positive sense. Teams from the American could go 6-0...every single year...in Bowl games and it will never be used to say "Oh hey, that AAC is a pretty good conference and so UC must be a pretty good team." It just won't happen. We could be beating the ACC, the Big 10, and the SEC, and people will just say, "Well, Michigan State had a down day..." or "You're just playing the worst teams from our conference..." So rooting for ECU, or Memphis, or whomever really has no value to it.

Please try not to take this personally, because it's not meant as such. You cannot coerce people into rooting for something.
AGREED!

I think some dont get it since they havent been through what the Big East went through. Year after year of rooting for our conference and it never mattered how well we did. We won more BCS games then the ACC and in the end we got torn apart and left for dead.

We can root all day for the AAC and we will still only be cannon fodder for ESPN jokes and innuendos. I root for USF... have a fond affection for Cinci and Uconn (I want to see them succeed) and tend to root for Memphis, ECU and Houston to move up too. The rest I really don't have any feeling toward except UCiF... who, as we all know, I detest with a passion. :)

I love it when you call us UCiF it just reminds me how little your team has done. I get a laugh every time. Thank you.
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