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RE: If Uconn and Usf were Good as they were in previous years would the Aac be P6 status
Memphis and Cincy to the Big 12. I am good with that.
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john01992
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RE: If Uconn and Usf were Good as they were in previous years would the Aac be P6 status
No...No...No...No
BCS/P5 status was never obtained via athletic success, but conference realignment. The ACC had to add FSU before they reached power level status. The Big East had Miami, Vtech, BC, Syracuse (when they were actually good), Pitt, & WVU to cement their status as a BCS conference.
retaining it in 2003 came down to two things.
The conference still retained a couple of brand name schools in Pitt, SU, & WVU. Plus the existing power conferences didn't want to take away BCS status because it would set a precedent that they could one day have their BCS status revoked.
The AAC never had the brand name schools & thus they were f***ed if a new system were to be implemented.
(This post was last modified: 12-16-2014 09:00 PM by john01992.)
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UConn-SMU
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RE: If Uconn and Usf were Good as they were in previous years would the Aac be P6 status
If UConn, USF, SMU, and Tulsa all started playing like they were 4 or 5 years ago, we'd be damn close to the ACC and B1G.
(This post was last modified: 12-16-2014 09:03 PM by UConn-SMU.)
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UCFKnight10
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RE: If Uconn and Usf were Good as they were in previous years would the Aac be P6 status
(12-16-2014 09:02 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote: If UConn, USF, SMU, and Tulsa all started playing like they were 4 or 5 years ago, we'd be damn close to the ACC and B1G.
If you ignore the fact that none of those schools were contenders for the national championship 4 or 5 years ago and the B1G and ACC each have a team that is competing...
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HuskyU
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RE: If Uconn and Usf were Good as they were in previous years would the Aac be P6 status
(12-16-2014 11:16 PM)UCFKnight10 Wrote: (12-16-2014 09:02 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote: If UConn, USF, SMU, and Tulsa all started playing like they were 4 or 5 years ago, we'd be damn close to the ACC and B1G.
If you ignore the fact that none of those schools were contenders for the national championship 4 or 5 years ago and the B1G and ACC each have a team that is competing...
I think what he was getting at is that the AAC would be a better overall conference. The ACC and the B1G have one great team each (better than anyone in the AAC), but it pretty much ends there. For P5 conferences, there is A LOT of mediocre at best.
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RE: If Uconn and Usf were Good as they were in previous years would the Aac be P6 status
Louisville was as good as it was in previous years and see where that got them.
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UConn-SMU
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RE: If Uconn and Usf were Good as they were in previous years would the Aac be P6 status
(12-16-2014 11:16 PM)UCFKnight10 Wrote: (12-16-2014 09:02 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote: If UConn, USF, SMU, and Tulsa all started playing like they were 4 or 5 years ago, we'd be damn close to the ACC and B1G.
If you ignore the fact that none of those schools were contenders for the national championship 4 or 5 years ago and the B1G and ACC each have a team that is competing...
B1G and ACC are top heavy. They have a bunch of dogs on the bottom.
You have to look at the conferences' average ranking.
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UCFKnight10
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RE: If Uconn and Usf were Good as they were in previous years would the Aac be P6 status
(12-17-2014 06:16 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote: (12-16-2014 11:16 PM)UCFKnight10 Wrote: (12-16-2014 09:02 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote: If UConn, USF, SMU, and Tulsa all started playing like they were 4 or 5 years ago, we'd be damn close to the ACC and B1G.
If you ignore the fact that none of those schools were contenders for the national championship 4 or 5 years ago and the B1G and ACC each have a team that is competing...
B1G and ACC are top heavy. They have a bunch of dogs on the bottom.
You have to look at the conferences' average ranking.
Why? Having a team competing for the championship is the only thing anyone cares about. We have no ranked teams. Even if UConn, USF, SMU, and Tulsa were all as good as 4-5 years ago then only Tulsa would be ranked and at around 24-25. That isn't good enough to be "damn close to the ACC and B1G." Let's not kid ourselves. There is a large gap between the G5 and the P5. ACC has 3 ranked, B1G has 4, AAC has 0. If the bottom of the league were better, we still wouldn't be close.
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RE: If Uconn and Usf were Good as they were in previous years would the Aac be P6 status
(12-16-2014 03:21 PM)Stookey57 Wrote: I think so
How "previous" are we talking for USF?
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RE: If Uconn and Usf were Good as they were in previous years would the Aac be P6 status
(12-17-2014 10:08 AM)UCFKnight10 Wrote: (12-17-2014 06:16 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote: (12-16-2014 11:16 PM)UCFKnight10 Wrote: (12-16-2014 09:02 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote: If UConn, USF, SMU, and Tulsa all started playing like they were 4 or 5 years ago, we'd be damn close to the ACC and B1G.
If you ignore the fact that none of those schools were contenders for the national championship 4 or 5 years ago and the B1G and ACC each have a team that is competing...
B1G and ACC are top heavy. They have a bunch of dogs on the bottom.
You have to look at the conferences' average ranking.
Why? Having a team competing for the championship is the only thing anyone cares about. We have no ranked teams. Even if UConn, USF, SMU, and Tulsa were all as good as 4-5 years ago then only Tulsa would be ranked and at around 24-25. That isn't good enough to be "damn close to the ACC and B1G." Let's not kid ourselves. There is a large gap between the G5 and the P5. ACC has 3 ranked, B1G has 4, AAC has 0. If the bottom of the league were better, we still wouldn't be close.
Yeah we would, because then the SOS of the top teams would be stronger and we would have ranked teams.
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12-17-2014 10:13 AM |
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RE: If Uconn and Usf were Good as they were in previous years would the Aac be P6 status
NO. If you think "Power status" has anything to do with what's happening on the field, you're stupid.
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RE: If Uconn and Usf were Good as they were in previous years would the Aac be P6 status
(12-17-2014 10:27 AM)blunderbuss Wrote: NO. If you think "Power status" has anything to do with what's happening on the field, you're stupid.
Very true. On the field, with great OOC wins, the AAC could get that $4m bonus for getting the G5 slot. In the big picture, the AAC could go undefeated OOC against the P5 for 5 years, we're not getting those 5x payouts the P5 are getting for the playoffs.
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RE: If Uconn and Usf were Good as they were in previous years would the Aac be P6 status
Did uconn or usf ever finish bowl season top 25? If not then no they'd make zero difference.
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Stookey57
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RE: If Uconn and Usf were Good as they were in previous years would the Aac be P6 status
(12-17-2014 10:27 AM)blunderbuss Wrote: NO. If you think "Power status" has anything to do with what's happening on the field, you're stupid.
as the uconn poster showed their beast records showed they beat teams in power conferences, what i'm saying is if they were maintaining now what they did then duphus.
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RE: If Uconn and Usf were Good as they were in previous years would the Aac be P6 status
If USF hires the right OC and finds a QB they will be a very good team next season. UConn appears to have a good coach but it may be 2 or three season before they are contending for a conference championship.
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RE: If Uconn and Usf were Good as they were in previous years would the Aac be P6 status
If UCONN and USF get their acts together then the East division is going to be ******* monstorous.
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RE: If Uconn and Usf were Good as they were in previous years would the Aac be P6 status
USF was great until they had to play teams not named West Virginia.
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Stookey57
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RE: If Uconn and Usf were Good as they were in previous years would the Aac be P6 status
(12-17-2014 03:27 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: USF was great until they had to play teams not named West Virginia.
so true, uconn too. we beat them once and the year jasper howard died, we almost beat them.
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RE: If Uconn and Usf were Good as they were in previous years would the Aac be P6 status
(12-17-2014 12:43 PM)Stookey57 Wrote: (12-17-2014 10:27 AM)blunderbuss Wrote: NO. If you think "Power status" has anything to do with what's happening on the field, you're stupid.
as the uconn poster showed their beast records showed they beat teams in power conferences, what i'm saying is if they were maintaining now what they did then duphus.
Yet, none of that makes a conference a "Power Conference". It's all based on big name brands, who has the most fans, who has the most political influence within the NCAA power structure, etc. All of this should be obvious by now.
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