(12-18-2014 08:03 AM)panama Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 11:30 PM)rbostic218 Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 04:44 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 04:39 PM)rbostic218 Wrote:  I guess the Sun Belt is trying to follow the K-State model. That's a lot of Jucos guys if I were a HS kid I would have second thoughts about going to a school with so many mature ready to play kids. I am all for competition but that's stacking the deck. Don't get me wrong I am not knocking anyone for signing kids from the Juco ranks but it seems a little much.

A little contradictory.

It may be but it just seems par for the course in the Sun Belt. Not saying other G5 schools are not doing it but it's a gamble. I know recruiting is a gamble in itself but to me you want to take HS kids because you will have more time to shape and mold them. Jucos are around 2 maybe 3yrs and if you miss you have less time to recover from that mistake.

We keep saying there is a perception problem with the Sun Belt and teams having a number of Jucos is part of it. I know it not the only part but it adds to it. I think of Kansas St a little differently than the other teams in the B12 because they have so many Jucos. It may just be me and I could be reading too much into it. GS took some Jucos last year(4) and one so far this year so we are contributing as well.

The Sun Belt perception problem is due getting our rear ends handed to us by other conferences not JUCOs.

Ok

http://louisiana.scout.com/story/1493821...-3-star-rb

Jordan Wright played in the Mississippi/Alabama High School All-Star Game December 13th for his home state. Earlier in the season, Wright picked up national recognition for scoring 9 touchdowns and rushing for 409 yards against Bastrop High (La.) on September 19th.
Jordan Wright is a 3-Star RB and carries a National Ranking #129 with Scout.com, visited Ole Miss and Mississippi State earlier this season. Coach Stringer and the Cajun’s staff won the services of Wright over Memphis and Southern Mississippi. Jordan becomes the Cajuns 21st verbal commitment to the 2015 recruiting class.

Breida would have had ten TDs.

Seriously though, the SBC picked up some serious talent this week!

(12-17-2014 05:14 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 04:52 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 04:48 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 04:46 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  a team can sign 15 jucos if you want. doesn't mean the team will actually get any better.

Good thing our Arbuckle was recruited out of high... oh wait. It can help with immediate depth issues, which we have. Very few 18 year old kids can take on 23 year old men.

The top three RBs in the SBC are 19. Some teams find them, some don't.

...cause they are RBs


How many OL and DL are starting at 18 or 19 currently?

App had 3 and we ran over the Sun Belt 2nd half of the season

(12-19-2014 01:17 PM)AppMtneer08 Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 05:14 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 04:52 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 04:48 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 04:46 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  a team can sign 15 jucos if you want. doesn't mean the team will actually get any better.

Good thing our Arbuckle was recruited out of high... oh wait. It can help with immediate depth issues, which we have. Very few 18 year old kids can take on 23 year old men.

The top three RBs in the SBC are 19. Some teams find them, some don't.

...cause they are RBs


How many OL and DL are starting at 18 or 19 currently?

App had 3 and we ran over the Sun Belt 2nd half of the season

There is a transition period physically. Its not even a question. Your body at 17 isnt the same as your body at 22.

On average yes. But we're not talking about the average population. Some bodies transition faster than others. Some bodies have a better starting point at age 17 than others.

You asked a question.

Then were provided good counterpoint examples at the RB position.

Then you questioned OL/DL.

Yet again examples were provided.

Then the old standby of cute smileys occurred. Sounds like a lot of your debates on here.

Blanket statements and generalizations will more so than not be proven wrong.

(12-19-2014 01:45 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  On average yes. But we're not talking about the average population. Some bodies transition faster than others. Some bodies have a better starting point at age 17 than others.

You asked a question.

Then were provided good counterpoint examples at the RB position.

Then you questioned OL/DL.

Yet again examples were provided.

Then the old standby of cute smileys occurred. Sounds like a lot of your debates on here.

Blanket statements and generalizations will more so than not be proven wrong.

No question. We have in Shawayne Lawrence a kid who has started 2 seasons and has yet to turn 19. But that is an exception to have a lineman who can come in at 17 and hold his own against 21-23 year olds. That is not the norm. Kids who get started on the line at 17 are exceptions and/or playing on crap teams like ours. That difference in body maturity is way more apparent in the trenches than at RB where kids make that transition much more easily (see Georgia, University of). And try not to be so bitter. Nothing discussed here is that important.

Don't pretend to know someone's emotion on a message board.

App must have found a dozen kids outside of the norm the last two years.

(12-19-2014 02:26 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Don't pretend to know someone's emotion on a message board.

App must have found a dozen kids outside of the norm the last two years.

it is outside of the norm for them because they have barely recruited anybody that is worthy of playing in the FBS. So they get 1 kid that does it, and it is a first.

(12-19-2014 02:29 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 02:26 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Don't pretend to know someone's emotion on a message board.

App must have found a dozen kids outside of the norm the last two years.

it is outside of the norm for them because they have barely recruited anybody that is worthy of playing in the FBS. So they get 1 kid that does it, and it is a first.

LOL!!! Hence the 0-8 conference record and 11 game losing streak. The 1 win as an FBS team was a last second field goal against Abilene Christian, a recent move up from DII to FCS.

(12-18-2014 10:25 PM)epiccajun Wrote:  http://louisiana.scout.com/story/1493821...-3-star-rb

Jordan Wright played in the Mississippi/Alabama High School All-Star Game December 13th for his home state. Earlier in the season, Wright picked up national recognition for scoring 9 touchdowns and rushing for 409 yards against Bastrop High (La.) on September 19th.
Jordan Wright is a 3-Star RB and carries a National Ranking #129 with Scout.com, visited Ole Miss and Mississippi State earlier this season. Coach Stringer and the Cajun’s staff won the services of Wright over Memphis and Southern Mississippi. Jordan becomes the Cajuns 21st verbal commitment to the 2015 recruiting class.

I really like this commit; but still just a commit vice a mid-term signing. Hope we keep him.

(12-19-2014 02:45 PM)APPrising Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 02:29 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 02:26 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Don't pretend to know someone's emotion on a message board.

App must have found a dozen kids outside of the norm the last two years.

it is outside of the norm for them because they have barely recruited anybody that is worthy of playing in the FBS. So they get 1 kid that does it, and it is a first.

LOL!!! Hence the 0-8 conference record and 11 game losing streak. The 1 win as an FBS team was a last second field goal against Abilene Christian, a recent move up from DII to FCS.

So youre saying its the norm for schools to start freshmen. Got it.

(12-19-2014 02:26 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Don't pretend to know someone's emotion on a message board.

App must have found a dozen kids outside of the norm the last two years.

If youre starting a dozen freshmen in the last two years then you must have had huge gaps or crap players or both. See above.

Re emotion:Your m.o. never changes.

(12-19-2014 02:45 PM)APPrising Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 02:29 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 02:26 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Don't pretend to know someone's emotion on a message board.

App must have found a dozen kids outside of the norm the last two years.

it is outside of the norm for them because they have barely recruited anybody that is worthy of playing in the FBS. So they get 1 kid that does it, and it is a first.

LOL!!! Hence the 0-8 conference record and 11 game losing streak. The 1 win as an FBS team was a last second field goal against Abilene Christian, a recent move up from DII to FCS.

Ummm

(12-19-2014 01:59 PM)panama Wrote:  No question. We have in Shawayne Lawrence a kid who has started 2 seasons and has yet to turn 19. But that is an exception to have a lineman who can come in at 17 and hold his own against 21-23 year olds. That is not the norm. Kids who get started on the line at 17 are exceptions and/or playing on crap teams like ours. That difference in body maturity is way more apparent in the trenches than at RB where kids make that transition much more easily (see Georgia, University of). And try not to be so bitter. Nothing discussed here is that important.

You didnt discover a new planet or anything dude.

(12-19-2014 02:50 PM)Shof Wrote:  

(12-18-2014 10:25 PM)epiccajun Wrote:  http://louisiana.scout.com/story/1493821...-3-star-rb

Jordan Wright played in the Mississippi/Alabama High School All-Star Game December 13th for his home state. Earlier in the season, Wright picked up national recognition for scoring 9 touchdowns and rushing for 409 yards against Bastrop High (La.) on September 19th.
Jordan Wright is a 3-Star RB and carries a National Ranking #129 with Scout.com, visited Ole Miss and Mississippi State earlier this season. Coach Stringer and the Cajun’s staff won the services of Wright over Memphis and Southern Mississippi. Jordan becomes the Cajuns 21st verbal commitment to the 2015 recruiting class.

I really like this commit; but still just a commit vice a mid-term signing. Hope we keep him.

dude seems legit!

(12-19-2014 02:55 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 02:45 PM)APPrising Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 02:29 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 02:26 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Don't pretend to know someone's emotion on a message board.

App must have found a dozen kids outside of the norm the last two years.

it is outside of the norm for them because they have barely recruited anybody that is worthy of playing in the FBS. So they get 1 kid that does it, and it is a first.

LOL!!! Hence the 0-8 conference record and 11 game losing streak. The 1 win as an FBS team was a last second field goal against Abilene Christian, a recent move up from DII to FCS.

Ummm

(12-19-2014 01:59 PM)panama Wrote:  No question. We have in Shawayne Lawrence a kid who has started 2 seasons and has yet to turn 19. But that is an exception to have a lineman who can come in at 17 and hold his own against 21-23 year olds. That is not the norm. Kids who get started on the line at 17 are exceptions and/or playing on crap teams like ours. That difference in body maturity is way more apparent in the trenches than at RB where kids make that transition much more easily (see Georgia, University of). And try not to be so bitter. Nothing discussed here is that important.

You didnt discover a new planet or anything dude.

My bad, Lebowski...I couldn't tell you what the norm is but App had 7 starting freshmen this year, 2 on the OL. For the most part, they held there own in the SBC. That being said, we will probably only have 1 or 2 true starting freshmen next year, one being the kicker. Other than them and the JUCO's, everyone else will likely be red-shirted.

(12-19-2014 03:10 PM)APPrising Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 02:55 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 02:45 PM)APPrising Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 02:29 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 02:26 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Don't pretend to know someone's emotion on a message board.

App must have found a dozen kids outside of the norm the last two years.

it is outside of the norm for them because they have barely recruited anybody that is worthy of playing in the FBS. So they get 1 kid that does it, and it is a first.

LOL!!! Hence the 0-8 conference record and 11 game losing streak. The 1 win as an FBS team was a last second field goal against Abilene Christian, a recent move up from DII to FCS.

Ummm

(12-19-2014 01:59 PM)panama Wrote:  No question. We have in Shawayne Lawrence a kid who has started 2 seasons and has yet to turn 19. But that is an exception to have a lineman who can come in at 17 and hold his own against 21-23 year olds. That is not the norm. Kids who get started on the line at 17 are exceptions and/or playing on crap teams like ours. That difference in body maturity is way more apparent in the trenches than at RB where kids make that transition much more easily (see Georgia, University of). And try not to be so bitter. Nothing discussed here is that important.

You didnt discover a new planet or anything dude.

My bad, Lebowski...I couldn't tell you what the norm is but App had 7 starting freshmen this year, 2 on the OL. For the most part, they held there own in the SBC. That being said, we will probably only have 1 or 2 true starting freshmen next year, one being the kicker. Other than them and the JUCO's, everyone else will likely be red-shirted.

App should be strong next year.

I hope we get to the point of RS freshmen. We have been putting out fires for 2 years.

(12-19-2014 03:13 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 03:10 PM)APPrising Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 02:55 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 02:45 PM)APPrising Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 02:29 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  it is outside of the norm for them because they have barely recruited anybody that is worthy of playing in the FBS. So they get 1 kid that does it, and it is a first.

LOL!!! Hence the 0-8 conference record and 11 game losing streak. The 1 win as an FBS team was a last second field goal against Abilene Christian, a recent move up from DII to FCS.

Ummm

(12-19-2014 01:59 PM)panama Wrote:  No question. We have in Shawayne Lawrence a kid who has started 2 seasons and has yet to turn 19. But that is an exception to have a lineman who can come in at 17 and hold his own against 21-23 year olds. That is not the norm. Kids who get started on the line at 17 are exceptions and/or playing on crap teams like ours. That difference in body maturity is way more apparent in the trenches than at RB where kids make that transition much more easily (see Georgia, University of). And try not to be so bitter. Nothing discussed here is that important.

You didnt discover a new planet or anything dude.

My bad, Lebowski...I couldn't tell you what the norm is but App had 7 starting freshmen this year, 2 on the OL. For the most part, they held there own in the SBC. That being said, we will probably only have 1 or 2 true starting freshmen next year, one being the kicker. Other than them and the JUCO's, everyone else will likely be red-shirted.

App should be strong next year.

Dey skrong den

(12-19-2014 03:32 PM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 03:13 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 03:10 PM)APPrising Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 02:55 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 02:45 PM)APPrising Wrote:  LOL!!! Hence the 0-8 conference record and 11 game losing streak. The 1 win as an FBS team was a last second field goal against Abilene Christian, a recent move up from DII to FCS.

Ummm

(12-19-2014 01:59 PM)panama Wrote:  No question. We have in Shawayne Lawrence a kid who has started 2 seasons and has yet to turn 19. But that is an exception to have a lineman who can come in at 17 and hold his own against 21-23 year olds. That is not the norm. Kids who get started on the line at 17 are exceptions and/or playing on crap teams like ours. That difference in body maturity is way more apparent in the trenches than at RB where kids make that transition much more easily (see Georgia, University of). And try not to be so bitter. Nothing discussed here is that important.

You didnt discover a new planet or anything dude.

My bad, Lebowski...I couldn't tell you what the norm is but App had 7 starting freshmen this year, 2 on the OL. For the most part, they held there own in the SBC. That being said, we will probably only have 1 or 2 true starting freshmen next year, one being the kicker. Other than them and the JUCO's, everyone else will likely be red-shirted.

App should be strong next year.

Dey skrong den

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