(12-14-2014 11:48 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  1. BYU
2. Air Force
3. Boise State
4. NIU
5. Army

There may actually be some movement on your #1 choice, especially if the Big 12 really does decide to not expand.

For about the 5th time, Aresco has mentioned that he is working to renegotiate the AACs contract.... and there are many within BYU that are pushing for them to join a conference in order for them to have a better bowl selection and access to the playoff.

Theres been a couple fairly high profile people that have mentioned it a few times and BYUs TV contract just so happens to end at the same time as the AACs in 2019.

If we can land them, bar the doors cause Boise St, CSU and Air Force wont be far after.

(12-15-2014 12:29 AM)NavyKnight Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 10:25 PM)UCFKnightfan08 Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 10:17 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 09:20 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 08:45 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Additional North East presence for this league is a great idea and New York Buffalo is brilliant.

They first have to win football games and have people show up to those games. Then, they need a major facilities upgrade.

Totally agree with you, jared... Buffalo is a AAU institute (Huge plus for the AAC) and also aware of the facility upgrades their program needs, but I can't shy at salivating the idea of adding the outstanding New York market too.

Just because you play in the market doesn't mean you deliver it. I grew up in NY and never watched a Buffalo, Rutgers, UCONN, etc. game. No one watched or cared about college sports and I didn't until I moved to Florida.

From NYC moved to Florida in HS, Yankees, Giants and Knicks are all that matter. Add the poor fans of the Mets and jets and not to mention two pro hockey teams. Buffalo would never deliver anything but a small portion of buffalo. They would have to do somerthing amazing to even slightly catch the attention of any place outside of buffalo. And playing in the AAC isn't going to even get a blip out old fatty fran. Not saying SUNY buffalo doesn't have qualities to offer but the market isn't one of them.

Fair argument

I understand there's a lot of competition for the New York market but even a 10-15% of that market to AAC table would be incrededibly better than say Waco Tx/Lubbock Tx for example... IDK, it could be the worst member idea ever, but worth studying them, IMO.

The AAC already has the tv exposure, imagine a team with "New York" in front of it's jersey coming to your place regularly?!? Bet you will see recruiting improvement and eyeball interest.

I like Buffalo and UMass as future additions/replacements, but not until they get their facilities up to snuff.

Look at all the money spent at schools like Tulane, East Carolina, Memphis, UCF, etc prior to joining the conference. Any other schools would need to make the same sort of investments in their athletic facilities.

(12-15-2014 08:00 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I like Buffalo and UMass as future additions/replacements, but not until they get their facilities up to snuff.

Look at all the money spent at schools like Tulane, East Carolina, Memphis, UCF, etc prior to joining the conference. Any other schools would need to make the same sort of investments in their athletic facilities.

I honestly think the only viable expansion for the AAC is the national model. Even then it should hinge on BYU. If the coogs are in then add three more. If not sit tight unless we get poached.

UB is a great academic institution, UMass is a flag ship, but the only way UMass or UB are viable IMO is if they bring some sort of political clout or TV money that I'm not aware of that provides the conference with leverage towards a P6.

(12-15-2014 08:26 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  

(12-15-2014 08:00 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I like Buffalo and UMass as future additions/replacements, but not until they get their facilities up to snuff.

Look at all the money spent at schools like Tulane, East Carolina, Memphis, UCF, etc prior to joining the conference. Any other schools would need to make the same sort of investments in their athletic facilities.

I honestly think the only viable expansion for the AAC is the national model. Even then it should hinge on BYU. If the coogs are in then add three more. If not sit tight unless we get poached.

UB is a great academic institution, UMass is a flag ship, but the only way UMass or UB are viable IMO is if they bring some sort of political clout or TV money that I'm not aware of that provides the conference with leverage towards a P6.

I definitely agree, and think that BYU is head and shoulders above any other potential additions. But I was thinking more long-term. New York and Massachusetts are highly populated areas that have only one P5 school each (Syracuse and Boston College). So, if Buffalo and UMass were to make substantial investments in their athletics, they'd be great candidates. If they don't make those investments, then pass.

(12-15-2014 08:45 AM)Chappy Wrote:  

(12-15-2014 08:26 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  

(12-15-2014 08:00 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I like Buffalo and UMass as future additions/replacements, but not until they get their facilities up to snuff.

Look at all the money spent at schools like Tulane, East Carolina, Memphis, UCF, etc prior to joining the conference. Any other schools would need to make the same sort of investments in their athletic facilities.

I honestly think the only viable expansion for the AAC is the national model. Even then it should hinge on BYU. If the coogs are in then add three more. If not sit tight unless we get poached.

UB is a great academic institution, UMass is a flag ship, but the only way UMass or UB are viable IMO is if they bring some sort of political clout or TV money that I'm not aware of that provides the conference with leverage towards a P6.

I definitely agree, and think that BYU is head and shoulders above any other potential additions. But I was thinking more long-term. New York and Massachusetts are highly populated areas that have only one P5 school each (Syracuse and Boston College). So, if Buffalo and UMass were to make substantial investments in their athletics, they'd be great candidates. If they don't make those investments, then pass.

Agreed, that might mean they have more political clout which might mean they're worth their weight. Especially if you could get NY or MA to give a d@mn about UB/UMass and their collegiate standing. Those would be a powerful states to have in the cache.

Also, if UB is claiming to deliver NY can ECU? Buffalo is only 1.5 hrs closer to NYC than ECU & Greenville

(12-15-2014 12:42 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 11:48 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  1. BYU
2. Air Force
3. Boise State
4. NIU
5. Army

There may actually be some movement on your #1 choice, especially if the Big 12 really does decide to not expand.

For about the 5th time, Aresco has mentioned that he is working to renegotiate the AACs contract.... and there are many within BYU that are pushing for them to join a conference in order for them to have a better bowl selection and access to the playoff.

Theres been a couple fairly high profile people that have mentioned it a few times and BYUs TV contract just so happens to end at the same time as the AACs in 2019.

If we can land them, bar the doors cause Boise St, CSU and Air Force wont be far after.

Aresco has been after BYU pretty hard. I'm glad we made the deal to get them into a bowl game. Lots of AAC scheduling with BYU. I am confident we can get them to join in the near future.

We may be interested in a Bulls trade. How much would it cost the American to sweeten the deal?

If it was the Buffalo BILLS then okay.

UB makes more sense than UMass in terms of Academics and university reputation I guess. UMass would be closer to a newer if not as large market.

Either way, a lot of work needs to be done from both programs to be considered over BYU, the service academies, or some western teams.

If we can guarantee the CFP G5 slot every year by taking the best teams from the MWC, I think it would be worth going to 16.

(12-15-2014 09:44 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(12-15-2014 12:42 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 11:48 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  1. BYU
2. Air Force
3. Boise State
4. NIU
5. Army

There may actually be some movement on your #1 choice, especially if the Big 12 really does decide to not expand.

For about the 5th time, Aresco has mentioned that he is working to renegotiate the AACs contract.... and there are many within BYU that are pushing for them to join a conference in order for them to have a better bowl selection and access to the playoff.

Theres been a couple fairly high profile people that have mentioned it a few times and BYUs TV contract just so happens to end at the same time as the AACs in 2019.

If we can land them, bar the doors cause Boise St, CSU and Air Force wont be far after.

Aresco has been after BYU pretty hard. I'm glad we made the deal to get them into a bowl game. Lots of AAC scheduling with BYU. I am confident we can get them to join in the near future.

Confident? You don't know Mormons then.

I'm sure Buffalo is "on" the list of possible replacements if there are departures, but I think they are fairly way down the list. If someone else leaves, I don't believe there is any chance of BYU coming in...so the list probably looks like this...

1) Army
2) Southern Miss
3) UTEP
4) Marshall
5) UMASS
6) anyone else including Buffalo...

I don't see any need for the American to go past 12 members and limiting the number of all sports (with Navy or Army as FB only) will generate more per team revenue.

I would support the addition of Army FB though to make it 13, because it would only affect FB revenues, it would unite the Army-Navy game for conference purposes, Army FB is geographically situated well and they help sell FB tickets in your stadium.

(12-14-2014 09:25 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  ah frick it....ad em who gives a rats butt. It's not like our perception is going to get any worse if they join. Seriously...who gives a crap right now. We aren't even the best of the G5's. I mean, we can't even be the tallest midget so who gives a crap. Add them, USM, marshall, whoever. I don't care.

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