(12-15-2014 05:21 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 09:06 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Fans fall on a wide spectrum. Wear AState gear, put it on your car and talk Red Wolves around Little Rock and you get no response or more often now some comments about how good the team has become. Do it in south Arkansas and get the Little Rock response with less people talking about how good the team is. Over toward Fayetteville not much a few jokes or comments about Gus and occasional embarrassed comment about the Hogs schedule policy.

If you want to meet Hog fans who seethe hate for AState go to NE Arkansas. You can't often get a sensible conversation with an NEA hog fan. They believe every AState positive is a negative for UArk.

Birmingham is the city with the highest interest in college football in the country. That means people who have picked sides. Bama once believed playing in Birmingham was essential to their success. Bryant junior grew up in that era. That created a pool who believe it impossible for UAB to have any success without it coming at a cost to Bama.

Mobile is closer to LSU than Auburn or Tuscaloosa. There are hordes of Bama and Auburn fans. There but they aren't as likely to believe a USA positive comes at the expense of their school.

Actually, you have to know the origins of the state to understand the "family" politics. North and Central Alabama was colonized by Tennessee/North Carolina/South Carolina and Georgia immigrants. South Alabama was colonized by French and Spanish immigrants. Mobile has a lot of cultural ties with New Orleans and Pensacola. Mobile has alway been more of an International zone for the state. There was also a large Air Force in Mobile until the 1970's.

I rate the fan bases in Mobile to be:

1. Alabama 55%
2. Auburn 40%
3. LSU 5%

Factor in a lot USA and USM graduates.

At the moment you could classify USA students as mainly Bama/USA and Auburn/USA fans. The problem UAT is trying to prevent is USA/Bama fans where USA is first priority to these fans. By inference, UAT did not want to see UAB/Bama fans.

Ironically, UAT has implemented a policy where the majority of the freshman classes are now from out of the state. This by far is changing the culture of Tuscaloosa.

Ironically, Auburn would be more representative in the state if a larger number of its alumni did not end up in Houston or Atlanta.

Wait a second,

People from North Carolina and Tennessee who move to Alabama are immigrants?

Good of a platform as any..

I got an interview at USA for a faculty job..

Would prefer not to say in what department..

Give me the low down of the college and the city..

(12-15-2014 11:06 PM)laxtonto Wrote:  Good of a platform as any..

I got an interview at USA for a faculty job..

Would prefer not to say in what department..

Give me the low down of the college and the city..

Actually, since the OP on this thread appeared to be some CUSA troll trying to post something in a risible attempt to fake us out into thinking CUSA was about to bid USA to the league, you're correct.

Its been years since I was at South, so I'll talk about Mobile.

Cost of living is low, really low. Except, the school is on the West side of town, so you're probably looking at putting your kids in private schools (and they aren't cheap). Mobile is conservative, like the rest of the south, but not overly religious conservative, unlike the rest of Alabama. It is a home town, not a college town (basically that means that many people are kind of set in their social networks - like any other home town - college towns tend to have more movement in and out and can be easier to integrate as a newcomer). Its an hour from the beaches (or closer) 2 hours and change from New Orleans, and enjoys really nice weather most of the year.

If you're young or single, Mobile has some amenities such as bars (most of which are downtown). Mobile likes to party. Mobile is, and has always been a food city.

Its cheaper than most places, warmer than most places, and a good place to spend a few years or so.

(12-15-2014 07:28 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-15-2014 05:21 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 09:06 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Fans fall on a wide spectrum. Wear AState gear, put it on your car and talk Red Wolves around Little Rock and you get no response or more often now some comments about how good the team has become. Do it in south Arkansas and get the Little Rock response with less people talking about how good the team is. Over toward Fayetteville not much a few jokes or comments about Gus and occasional embarrassed comment about the Hogs schedule policy.

If you want to meet Hog fans who seethe hate for AState go to NE Arkansas. You can't often get a sensible conversation with an NEA hog fan. They believe every AState positive is a negative for UArk.

Birmingham is the city with the highest interest in college football in the country. That means people who have picked sides. Bama once believed playing in Birmingham was essential to their success. Bryant junior grew up in that era. That created a pool who believe it impossible for UAB to have any success without it coming at a cost to Bama.

Mobile is closer to LSU than Auburn or Tuscaloosa. There are hordes of Bama and Auburn fans. There but they aren't as likely to believe a USA positive comes at the expense of their school.

Actually, you have to know the origins of the state to understand the "family" politics. North and Central Alabama was colonized by Tennessee/North Carolina/South Carolina and Georgia immigrants. South Alabama was colonized by French and Spanish immigrants. Mobile has a lot of cultural ties with New Orleans and Pensacola. Mobile has alway been more of an International zone for the state. There was also a large Air Force in Mobile until the 1970's.

I rate the fan bases in Mobile to be:

1. Alabama 55%
2. Auburn 40%
3. LSU 5%

Factor in a lot USA and USM graduates.

At the moment you could classify USA students as mainly Bama/USA and Auburn/USA fans. The problem UAT is trying to prevent is USA/Bama fans where USA is first priority to these fans. By inference, UAT did not want to see UAB/Bama fans.

Ironically, UAT has implemented a policy where the majority of the freshman classes are now from out of the state. This by far is changing the culture of Tuscaloosa.

Ironically, Auburn would be more representative in the state if a larger number of its alumni did not end up in Houston or Atlanta.

Wait a second,

People from North Carolina and Tennessee who move to Alabama are immigrants?

Back in 1819. Tennessee was the western part of North Carolina.

(12-15-2014 07:28 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-15-2014 05:21 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 09:06 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Fans fall on a wide spectrum. Wear AState gear, put it on your car and talk Red Wolves around Little Rock and you get no response or more often now some comments about how good the team has become. Do it in south Arkansas and get the Little Rock response with less people talking about how good the team is. Over toward Fayetteville not much a few jokes or comments about Gus and occasional embarrassed comment about the Hogs schedule policy.

If you want to meet Hog fans who seethe hate for AState go to NE Arkansas. You can't often get a sensible conversation with an NEA hog fan. They believe every AState positive is a negative for UArk.

Birmingham is the city with the highest interest in college football in the country. That means people who have picked sides. Bama once believed playing in Birmingham was essential to their success. Bryant junior grew up in that era. That created a pool who believe it impossible for UAB to have any success without it coming at a cost to Bama.

Mobile is closer to LSU than Auburn or Tuscaloosa. There are hordes of Bama and Auburn fans. There but they aren't as likely to believe a USA positive comes at the expense of their school.

Actually, you have to know the origins of the state to understand the "family" politics. North and Central Alabama was colonized by Tennessee/North Carolina/South Carolina and Georgia immigrants. South Alabama was colonized by French and Spanish immigrants. Mobile has a lot of cultural ties with New Orleans and Pensacola. Mobile has alway been more of an International zone for the state. There was also a large Air Force in Mobile until the 1970's.

I rate the fan bases in Mobile to be:

1. Alabama 55%
2. Auburn 40%
3. LSU 5%

Factor in a lot USA and USM graduates.

At the moment you could classify USA students as mainly Bama/USA and Auburn/USA fans. The problem UAT is trying to prevent is USA/Bama fans where USA is first priority to these fans. By inference, UAT did not want to see UAB/Bama fans.

Ironically, UAT has implemented a policy where the majority of the freshman classes are now from out of the state. This by far is changing the culture of Tuscaloosa.

Ironically, Auburn would be more representative in the state if a larger number of its alumni did not end up in Houston or Atlanta.

Wait a second,

People from North Carolina and Tennessee who move to Alabama are immigrants?

More like refugees.

(12-12-2014 09:50 PM)GEAGLESJAG Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 08:15 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 06:08 PM)galojah Wrote:  South Alabama is being put under the UOA system? What?


Just kidding --- I couldn't ever play that joke on anyone.

The state tried to jack with USA back in the 80's. There were protests and outrage from the entire community, backed up by the entire Gulf Coast political delegation.

Mobile and Baldwin don't always get along. But they all know that if Central/North Alabama gets their hands on something, they'll ignore them. People in Mobile don't trust Montgomery with anything. And that's a cultural thing, not a political one. Longstanding and deep arguments exist between Mobile and the rest of the state. Roll Tide/War Eagle? Sure. But that would evaporate immediately if they went after South. Even the Bammers down there understand that UAT hasn't done squat for Mobile.

Also, Mobile, due to distance and awful transport links (historically to Auburn and currently to Tuscaloosa), really aren't likely to follow the Tide or Auburn with the same intensity. People down there are perfectly capable of supporting the Tide while refusing to follow Paul Bryant Jr blindly. There are probably less than 1000 season ticket holders of both schools in metro Mobile. That's it. UAT is basically local to Birmingham. Auburn is pretty close too. From Mobile, you really can't do it in a day. You certainly can't do a night game.

The environment where what happened to UAB was allowed to be enabled was assisted in its creation by Birmingham's dysfunctional political environment, where the suburbs and the Birmingham back stab and undercut each other at just about every opportunity, to the detriment of the whole region.

In short, if the state tried that, they'd be run out of town...likely by people wearing Red A shirts and houndstooth hats.

Do you really believe what you just wrote? How long has it been since you have been in Mobile? If you took a poll in Mobile it would be primarily BAma fans followed by Auburn. Unfortunately South would be a distant third.

He makes good points. There is a hell of a lot of difference in a walmart fan and a season ticket holder.

(12-16-2014 11:01 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-15-2014 11:06 PM)laxtonto Wrote:  Good of a platform as any..

I got an interview at USA for a faculty job..

Would prefer not to say in what department..

Give me the low down of the college and the city..

Actually, since the OP on this thread appeared to be some CUSA troll trying to post something in a risible attempt to fake us out into thinking CUSA was about to bid USA to the league, you're correct.

Its been years since I was at South, so I'll talk about Mobile.

Cost of living is low, really low. Except, the school is on the West side of town, so you're probably looking at putting your kids in private schools (and they aren't cheap). Mobile is conservative, like the rest of the south, but not overly religious conservative, unlike the rest of Alabama. It is a home town, not a college town (basically that means that many people are kind of set in their social networks - like any other home town - college towns tend to have more movement in and out and can be easier to integrate as a newcomer). Its an hour from the beaches (or closer) 2 hours and change from New Orleans, and enjoys really nice weather most of the year.

If you're young or single, Mobile has some amenities such as bars (most of which are downtown). Mobile likes to party. Mobile is, and has always been a food city.

Its cheaper than most places, warmer than most places, and a good place to spend a few years or so.

Thanks man