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Good question. I'm curious how that was arranged too.

Quote:How do you think Rome found PJ?

Everyone's heard about PJ! Who follows sports... it's bowl season coming up. His people probably called KB's people, and it went from there. Probably went a little smoother than this...

That guy is one of the best salesmen I've ever heard in my life.

That turdville reference was awesome. I see ten recruits right now decomitting from from some lower tier P5 schools and ringing up Fleck. " I want to row the boat
coach. "

Can't buy that kind of advertising. But when you get it and then you kill it like he did, that's money in the WMU football bank.

(12-09-2014 08:33 PM)BCBronco Wrote:  How do you think Rome found PJ?

Rome mentioned that PJs name had surfaced in UofM talks. And also asked about other jobs. I'm wondering if maybe this is part of getting PJ name out there for others to start learning about. Regardless of what he says about staying in Kazoo.

(12-09-2014 08:33 PM)BCBronco Wrote:  How do you think Rome found PJ?

Hawkins has been on Rome before to talk about Wooden and their relationship. They know where to find each other.

That was awesome. Well done, coach!

(12-09-2014 10:53 PM)WheresWaldo42 Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 08:33 PM)BCBronco Wrote:  How do you think Rome found PJ?

Rome mentioned that PJs name had surfaced in UofM talks. And also asked about other jobs. I'm wondering if maybe this is part of getting PJ name out there for others to start learning about. Regardless of what he says about staying in Kazoo.

Conspiracy theorist here ^^

(12-09-2014 10:53 PM)WheresWaldo42 Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 08:33 PM)BCBronco Wrote:  How do you think Rome found PJ?

Rome mentioned that PJs name had surfaced in UofM talks. And also asked about other jobs. I'm wondering if maybe this is part of getting PJ name out there for others to start learning about. Regardless of what he says about staying in Kazoo.

I like your posting and its thoughtful but man you're depressingly pessimistic sometimes

(12-10-2014 03:35 AM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 10:53 PM)WheresWaldo42 Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 08:33 PM)BCBronco Wrote:  How do you think Rome found PJ?

Rome mentioned that PJs name had surfaced in UofM talks. And also asked about other jobs. I'm wondering if maybe this is part of getting PJ name out there for others to start learning about. Regardless of what he says about staying in Kazoo.

I like your posting and its thoughtful but man you're depressingly pessimistic sometimes

Sorry. I honestly don't think PJ is going anywhere.....at least not yet. He's not ready to take the next step. Needs to actually win something first. As I have said multiple times, was this years turnaround incredible? Absolutely. But until he at least get WMU to the MACC game I don't see him really being an option for a bigger job.

I was just pointing out that I immediately picked up on that when Rome said something about UofM. Found it interesting. Because other than HUGE in GR bring PJs name up on a daily basis for that job, I really don't think anyone else thinks he is a realistic candidate.

You want to see pessimistic. Just wait until next summer when we start hearing all of the hype from the Athletic Dept about how THIS is the year that we break through and win the MAC Title. That is my single biggest pet peeve every year about WMU Football. So once I start hearing that garbage, then its on. Win something that THEN you can talk about it.

(12-10-2014 10:14 AM)WheresWaldo42 Wrote:  

(12-10-2014 03:35 AM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 10:53 PM)WheresWaldo42 Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 08:33 PM)BCBronco Wrote:  How do you think Rome found PJ?

Rome mentioned that PJs name had surfaced in UofM talks. And also asked about other jobs. I'm wondering if maybe this is part of getting PJ name out there for others to start learning about. Regardless of what he says about staying in Kazoo.

The one year improvement is a start.....cant have a drastic drop next year and agree has to win a Championship before the talks get real serious.


I like your posting and its thoughtful but man you're depressingly pessimistic sometimes

Sorry. I honestly don't think PJ is going anywhere.....at least not yet. He's not ready to take the next step. Needs to actually win something first. As I have said multiple times, was this years turnaround incredible? Absolutely. But until he at least get WMU to the MACC game I don't see him really being an option for a bigger job.

I was just pointing out that I immediately picked up on that when Rome said something about UofM. Found it interesting. Because other than HUGE in GR bring PJs name up on a daily basis for that job, I really don't think anyone else thinks he is a realistic candidate.

You want to see pessimistic. Just wait until next summer when we start hearing all of the hype from the Athletic Dept about how THIS is the year that we break through and win the MAC Title. That is my single biggest pet peeve every year about WMU Football. So once I start hearing that garbage, then its on. Win something that THEN you can talk about it.

Quote:As I have said multiple times, was this years turnaround incredible? Absolutely. But until he at least get WMU to the MACC game I don't see him really being an option for a bigger job.

If he didn't go 1-11 (now, to be fair, that's a big 'if' change) and instead went 6-6+, and this Next Year he goes 8+ wins while winning a bowl this year -- he'd be hired somewhere all without a MAC Championship game. Last year hurt him -- as it did the fan-base -- but also ricocheted into Excitement for this year about being 8-4, which is why I see the over-blown "Oh, he's very possibly going to be hired This year" excitement.

Last year was over-blown about how awful we're going to be as long as we have "that guy".
This year was over-blown about him being hired away at the end of the year due to His (thus team's) improvement, going 8-4.

Quote:You want to see pessimistic. Just wait until next summer when we start hearing all of the hype from the Athletic Dept about how THIS is the year that we break through and win the MAC Title. That is my single biggest pet peeve every year about WMU Football.

You're right. People are going to be easily disappointed and not see the bigger picture, but instead, get caught up into Emotional Hype.

2014: Kinda Easy Schedule (1 P5 that CMU beat by 21, 1 6-6 P5, 2 FCS-level teams Home/Away; Toledo & NIU at home more wanted than away games @BGSU, @Ohio)
2015: TOUGH SCHEDULE (MSU, @Ohio State, @GA-Southern, @Toledo, @NIU)

We're going to be a better team, but most likely, a game back in record. BGSU with their Original QB Matt Johnson coming back? If we have BGSU at home, that's going to be tougher than @BGSU this year without him. Both Toledo & NIU will be better at least by a step. Ohio & UMass will be better. BSU will certainly, as will Miami-OH.

The only team I see not being as good or getting worse next year is CMU. This was a "rebound year" for the MAC -- great timing for us to get our confidence up and to experience some sweet wins!

(12-10-2014 10:14 AM)WheresWaldo42 Wrote:  

(12-10-2014 03:35 AM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 10:53 PM)WheresWaldo42 Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 08:33 PM)BCBronco Wrote:  How do you think Rome found PJ?

Rome mentioned that PJs name had surfaced in UofM talks. And also asked about other jobs. I'm wondering if maybe this is part of getting PJ name out there for others to start learning about. Regardless of what he says about staying in Kazoo.

I like your posting and its thoughtful but man you're depressingly pessimistic sometimes

Sorry. I honestly don't think PJ is going anywhere.....at least not yet. He's not ready to take the next step. Needs to actually win something first. As I have said multiple times, was this years turnaround incredible? Absolutely. But until he at least get WMU to the MACC game I don't see him really being an option for a bigger job.

I was just pointing out that I immediately picked up on that when Rome said something about UofM. Found it interesting. Because other than HUGE in GR bring PJs name up on a daily basis for that job, I really don't think anyone else thinks he is a realistic candidate.

You want to see pessimistic. Just wait until next summer when we start hearing all of the hype from the Athletic Dept about how THIS is the year that we break through and win the MAC Title. That is my single biggest pet peeve every year about WMU Football. So once I start hearing that garbage, then its on. Win something that THEN you can talk about it.

We aren't breaking through next year. I will say it now. WMU had a lot of things work in it's favor this year, a very easy schedule being first and foremost, and most of our important players remained healthy. It doesn't break that way next year schedule wise, and if someone like Terrell got injured all bets are off. Thing is, I believe that the Broncos will be a better football team next year, but maybe end up with a worse record.

Quote:Thing is, I believe that the Broncos will be a better football team next year, but maybe end up with a worse record.

Yep, same here. 7-5 is expectations for a decent performing year with a better team. Schedule's tougher. And even if we match 8-4 but no MACC -- there would need to be a Big Market for New coaches that would end up calling for the AAC to be filled in which he'd make a semi-lateral move Up, due to the 1-11 year (that went down from the prev year) & his lack of DC/OC/HC experience prior to all that.

I don't fear him leaving any time too soon unless we have a WOW year next year. With that schedule, I honestly can't see it happening (even tho I'd love it). 2016? That's more apt to be a WOW year -- fitting for our younger recruits being veterans at that point + NW & Illinois (Cubit vs Fleck!!!!).

(12-10-2014 01:20 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  

Quote:Thing is, I believe that the Broncos will be a better football team next year, but maybe end up with a worse record.

Yep, same here. 7-5 is expectations for a decent performing year with a better team. Schedule's tougher. And even if we match 8-4 but no MACC -- there would need to be a Big Market for New coaches that would end up calling for the AAC to be filled in which he'd make a semi-lateral move Up, due to the 1-11 year (that went down from the prev year) & his lack of DC/OC/HC experience prior to all that.

I don't fear him leaving any time too soon unless we have a WOW year next year. With that schedule, I honestly can't see it happening (even tho I'd love it). 2016? That's more apt to be a WOW year -- fitting for our younger recruits being veterans at that point + NW & Illinois (Cubit vs Fleck!!!!).

Cool thing is we probably won't have to wait long to see how good WMU is next year with MSU being the first game at home.

(12-10-2014 03:13 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  Cool thing is we probably won't have to wait long to see how good WMU is next year with MSU being the first game at home.

I won't base how good we are next year on our performance against what should be a Top 10 MSU team. Obviously, if we somehow beat MSU, we'd be looking great, but IMO a much better indicator of how good we may be will come after the following week's game at Georgia Southern.

Quote:Cool thing is we probably won't have to wait long to see how good WMU is next year with MSU being the first game at home.

Last year our opening game was @MSU and we only lost by 13, and MSU went to the Rose Bowl. NOT a good indicator of how good we were going to be. I certainly would have bet the farm that we Wouldn't be 1-11 that year. :)

I think I agree with all of your assessments regarding next year. I think we will be a better team next season, but the record might not reflect it.

My problem, and it has been for several years now, is that I can almost hear Robin Hooks commercials now. And interviews with KB and others. And the marketing campaign. Its ALL going to be how they are going to take that next step and be MAC Champs. I'd rather they just show us than tell us, that's all.

This year. They showed us and shut many of us....including myself.... up. I hope that next year they do in fact come out and do the same.

As for learning how good we are when we play MSU. I just don't think those are actually good measuring sticks to how good we might be. In 2013 after hanging tough with MSU we thought it might be a solid season and went 1-11. I write those games off to a reason to hopefully fill Waldo for the MSU game and get our paycheck at OSU. Take our 2 losses and hope to be healthy for MAC play. I don't think we are going to learn much of anything from those games at all.

(12-10-2014 04:45 PM)WheresWaldo42 Wrote:  My problem, and it has been for several years now, is that I can almost hear Robin Hooks commercials now. And interviews with KB and others. And the marketing campaign. Its ALL going to be how they are going to take that next step and be MAC Champs. I'd rather they just show us than tell us, that's all.

Honestly, what do you expect them to say? It's their job to drum up excitement for the football season.

"Get ready to come out and see your third place Broncos this season!"

I've never heard them guarantee MAC championships or anything... it's usually more along the lines of, "quest for a MAC championship" or something.

Football Scoop on Jim Rome interview:
http://coachingsearch.com/article?a=PJ-F...everything