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^ Wouldn't say atrocious. Still have to beat UGA, Florida (yes I know they're 'down' but they still have players), The Ol' Ball Coach. Kentucky and Rocky Top are building-getting better. Also beat A&M.

He won three Big 12-North Division championships. Not exactly getting his "ass handed to him."

And again, Mizzou is always in shadow of Sooners and Huskers on The Plains, even after latter went to Big Ten.

(12-06-2014 10:34 AM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  Uh, no. The SEC East is atrocious. Pinkel got his rear end handed to him in the Big 12. Then all of the sudden he ends up in the SEC and he plays in title games.

The only atrocious team in the SEC East this year was Vandy. Georgia is good - if they show up to play against Florida, they're probably playing today. Florida is down, but still a solid team. South Carolina was one of the biggest disappointments in the country this year. Tennessee and Kentucky are both programs on the rise.

The SEC East is not the SEC West, but it's still better than most divisions in other major conferences.

(12-06-2014 08:37 AM)MajorHoople Wrote:  He could be the candidate nobody was talking about Colin Cowherd referenced earlier this week on ESPN Radio.

That was my thought, as well.

Not sure that GP wants to confront the delusions of grandeur with the Wal Marters, though. I think he could win at Michigan, although probably not win the B1G consistently. Remember how all the experts predicted disaster at Mizzou when they jumped to the SEC? All he's done is get to the title game several times.

Still, for some reason, I don't see him leaving Missouri at this point in his career.

As to Charm's claim, here is Pinkel's record. Nebraska and Oklahoma were the big roadblocks for them in the B12.


Pinkel's career

Toledo
1991 5 - 5 - 1 (4 - 3 - 1 MAC) tied for 3rd
1992 8 - 3 (5 - 3 MAC) tied for 3rd
1993 4 - 7 (3 - 5 MAC) tied for 7th
1994 6 - 4 - 1 (4 - 3 - 1 MAC) 6th
1995 11 - 0 - 1 (7 - 0 - 1 MAC) 1st won Las Vegas bowl, ranked 24th
1996 7 - 4 (6 - 2 MAC) tied for 2nd
1997 9 - 3 (7 - 1 MAC) 1st in West division
1998 7 - 5 (6 - 2 MAC) 1st in West division
1999 6 - 5 (5 - 3 MAC) tied for 2nd in West
2000 10 - 1 (6 - 1 MAC) 1st in West division

Toledo totals: 73 - 37 - 3 overall .646, 53 - 23 - 3 MAC .670

Missouri (in B12)
2001 4 - 7 (3 - 5 B12) tied for 4th in N division
2002 5 - 7 (2 - 6 B12) 5th in N division
2003 8 - 5 (4 - 4 B12) 3rd in N division, L to Ark. in Ind. Bowl
2004 5 - 6 (3 - 5 B12) tied for 3rd in N division
2005 7 - 5 (4 - 4 B12) tied for 2nd in N division, W vs S. Car - Ind. Bowl
2006 8 - 5 (4 - 4 B12) tied 2nd in N div, L to Oregon St. in Sun Bowl
2007 12 - 2 (7 - 1 B12) tied for 1st in N div, W vs Ark in Cotton Bowl, ranked 4th AP
2008 10 - 4 (5 - 3 B12) tied 1st N div, W vs NW in Alamo Bowl, ranked 19th AP
2009 8 - 5 (4 - 4 B12) tied 2nd in N div, L to Navy in Texas Bowl
2010 10 - 3 (6 - 2 B12) tied 1st in N div, L to Iowa in Insight Bowl, ranked 18th AP
2011 8 - 5 (5 - 4 B12) 5th beat N. Carolina in Independence Bowl

Missouri totals in B12: 85 - 54 .612 overall, 47 - 42 B12 .528

Missouri in SEC
2012 5 - 7 (2 - 6 SEC) 5th in East division
2013 12 - 2 (7 - 1 SEC) 1st East div, W vs OK St. in Cotton Bowl, ranked 5th AP
2014 10 - 2 (7 - 1 SEC) 1st in East division, ranked 14th AP

Pinkel's Missouri totals in SEC: 27 - 11 .710 overall, 16 - 8 SEC .667

Overall career record: 185 - 102 - 3 .638, 6 - 4 bowls

Anybody notice a pattern here? It took him about 4 or 5 seasons to get his program to contender status, both at UT and MU. After that point, 7 - 5 was a bad year. Was 12 - 20 in his first 4 years in the B12, 35 - 22 after that.

When Mizzou went to the SEC, it included a steep learning curve regarding conference foes, but his years of HC experience shortened the time frame to get his team competitive.

Pinkel hardly "got his rear end handed to him"...

2001: 4–7 (3–5), T–4th (North)
2002: 5–7 (2–6), 5th (North)
2003: 8–5 (4–4), 3rd (North)
2004: 5–6 (3–5), T–3rd (North)
2005: 7–5 (4–4), T–2nd (North)
2006: 8–5 (4–4), T–2nd (North)
2007: 12–2 (7–1) T–1st (North)
2008: 10–4 (5–3), T–1st (North)
2009: 8–5 (4–4), T–2nd (North)
2010: 10–3 (6–2), T–1st (North)
2011: 8–5 (5–4), 5th

Sean Payton

(12-06-2014 01:14 PM)thejudge Wrote:  Sean Payton

?

(12-06-2014 12:49 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 08:37 AM)MajorHoople Wrote:  He could be the candidate nobody was talking about Colin Cowherd referenced earlier this week on ESPN Radio.

That was my thought, as well.

Not sure that GP wants to confront the delusions of grandeur with the Wal Marters, though. I think he could win at Michigan, although probably not win the B1G consistently. Remember how all the experts predicted disaster at Mizzou when they jumped to the SEC? All he's done is get to the title game several times.

Still, for some reason, I don't see him leaving Missouri at this point in his career.

Cowherd tweeted last night that it rhymed with Zill Zellecheck. But he was just messing with scUM fans.

Sean Payton played for Molde at EIU.

Speaking of Pinkel, former Bronco assistant A.J. Ricker is coaching in the SEC championship game today.

(12-06-2014 01:20 PM)Kimbosucks Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 12:49 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 08:37 AM)MajorHoople Wrote:  He could be the candidate nobody was talking about Colin Cowherd referenced earlier this week on ESPN Radio.

That was my thought, as well.

Not sure that GP wants to confront the delusions of grandeur with the Wal Marters, though. I think he could win at Michigan, although probably not win the B1G consistently. Remember how all the experts predicted disaster at Mizzou when they jumped to the SEC? All he's done is get to the title game several times.

Still, for some reason, I don't see him leaving Missouri at this point in his career.

Cowherd tweeted last night that it rhymed with Zill Zellecheck. But he was just messing with scUM fans.

Sean Payton played for Molde at EIU.

Zellecheck------Fleck, that rymes!!

(12-06-2014 01:20 PM)Kimbosucks Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 12:49 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 08:37 AM)MajorHoople Wrote:  He could be the candidate nobody was talking about Colin Cowherd referenced earlier this week on ESPN Radio.

That was my thought, as well.

Not sure that GP wants to confront the delusions of grandeur with the Wal Marters, though. I think he could win at Michigan, although probably not win the B1G consistently. Remember how all the experts predicted disaster at Mizzou when they jumped to the SEC? All he's done is get to the title game several times.

Still, for some reason, I don't see him leaving Missouri at this point in his career.

Cowherd tweeted last night that it rhymed with Zill Zellecheck. But he was just messing with scUM fans.

Sean Payton played for Molde at EIU.

(12-06-2014 06:24 PM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 01:20 PM)Kimbosucks Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 12:49 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 08:37 AM)MajorHoople Wrote:  He could be the candidate nobody was talking about Colin Cowherd referenced earlier this week on ESPN Radio.

That was my thought, as well.

Not sure that GP wants to confront the delusions of grandeur with the Wal Marters, though. I think he could win at Michigan, although probably not win the B1G consistently. Remember how all the experts predicted disaster at Mizzou when they jumped to the SEC? All he's done is get to the title game several times.

Still, for some reason, I don't see him leaving Missouri at this point in his career.

Cowherd tweeted last night that it rhymed with Zill Zellecheck. But he was just messing with scUM fans.

Sean Payton played for Molde at EIU.

Lol!

Btw, saw him at Chenery last month.

Is he a country singer or something?

^ If Payton keeps Rob Ryan as his DC much longer he'll need another job.

(12-06-2014 07:26 PM)Kimbosucks Wrote:  Is he a country singer or something?

Bela Fleck, world-renowned Banjo player. Plays bluegrass, jazz, folk and so much more. Really amazing musician.

(12-06-2014 07:44 PM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 07:26 PM)Kimbosucks Wrote:  Is he a country singer or something?

Bela Fleck, world-renowned Banjo player. Plays bluegrass, jazz, folk and so much more. Really amazing musician.

PJ's dad.

He dances to his dad's tunes quite well!

(12-06-2014 07:29 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  ^ If Payton keeps Rob Ryan as his DC much longer he'll need another job.

Rob Ryan is the kiss of death to an NFL franchise. He's ridden Rex's coattails, but what has Rex done? Nothing. The Ryan's are enigmas.

(12-06-2014 09:05 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  

He dances to his dad's tunes quite well!

Nice!!! row that boat all the way to a MAC championship???? 2015?

One selling point UofM has over the entire FBS is it's academic standing world wide....check out the top 400 schools in the world..... A mistake was made...Stanford is 7th. on this list

http://www.university-list.net/rank.htm

Ohio Stat is ranked 113th. Our Spartans are 171st. ND is 224th.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-s...01911.html


M turned down!