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RE: More Inside Info (Senate)
(12-05-2014 03:06 PM)sadolakced Wrote:  
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(12-04-2014 04:13 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  
(12-04-2014 04:06 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  Does Watts attend the faculty senate meetings?

Only when he wants to address them. Which he will not this time. He made his address last meeting.

This. At institutions where I have worked (and served as a voting faculty senate rep) administration stays away from faculty senate unless it simply cannot be avoided.

I can't see him avoiding this one. Now, if there are a few hundred students....

As far as I'm aware only faculty and staff are allowed at the meeting?

Do you mean outside the building protesting?

Not true.

From the Faculty Senate:

Quote:The Faculty Senate will meet on Tuesday, December 9th from 7:30-9:30 am in the Finley Conference Center in the Kaul Genetics Building. Topics on the agenda include: Address and Q&A with the Provost; General Education proposal; ADCOM proposal; UAB Athletics and Athletic Team Support; and Shared Governance. An open forum time for faculty concerns was also included. An agena will be available on the Faculty Senate document website https://uabweb.ad.uab.edu/senate/Pages/S...spx(select the "agendas" tab). Attendance is open to all UAB community.

http://www.uab.edu/facultysenate/
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12-05-2014 03:15 PM
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RE: More Inside Info (Senate)
Note that the "shared governance" part is the thing to focus on. Even faculty who agree that football should have been closed are upset at the process and being shut out. If you plan to contact any members of the Senate or show up, please hammer that point home when discussing actions (IE: a "reinstate football" vs. "no confidence" resolution)
12-05-2014 03:24 PM
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RE: More Inside Info (Senate)
(12-05-2014 03:24 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Note that the "shared governance" part is the thing to focus on. Even faculty who agree that football should have been closed are upset at the process and being shut out. If you plan to contact any members of the Senate or show up, please hammer that point home when discussing actions (IE: a "reinstate football" vs. "no confidence" resolution)

THIS.

To sell the idea of change to intellectuals and educators that don't care one way or the other about athletics, we need to be able to show how Watts has failed as an educator, an administrator, and a leader.

1) He has made a massive decision without consulting all stakeholders.

2) He has made a critical decision ostensibly based on flawed logic (Carr report).

3) He has ignored the response of his undergraduate students.

4) He has tacitly lowered the bar for research standards by "relying" on the Carr study. If a student turned in a research paper, thesis, or dissertation with that level of inadequacy, it would be an automatic failure. Somehow, it's perfectly acceptable to make a supposedly $49M decision. If it's good enough for the university president, a student could argue it's adequate for his Bio 201 research paper.

5) He has employed faulty logic that finance and accounting faculty should find abhorrent - every financial prospectus includes the phrase "Past performance is no guarantee of future returns". By assuming that past performance with an inadequate product (last 5-6 years of Blazer athletics) is indicative of the return he could expect in a strong market with a good product, he has undermined a solid investment and thereby left a monstrous opportunity cost on the table.

6) He has "solved" a problem without identifying the cause. By stating that athletics would incur a loss, he merely decided to lop off the largest single expense without regard to the associated revenue. Would you go to a doctor with a broken finger and accept a treatment method of amputation of the arm?

7) He has flatly refused the most common sense approach to decision making - seeking a way to improve his options. By using faulty data and assuming only two choices, he effectively made it impossible to make an informed decision.

8) He has declined contributions that would have resolved a sizable portion of the supposed increase in expenses (also based on poor logic - see statements above).

9) He has jeopardized the position and public perception of the University of Alabama at Birmingham by his embarrassing reactions ("we don't know what we don't know") to the public outcry this week.

10) He has failed as a leader by excluding stakeholders, including faculty, staff, students, and the community. Had he involved these stakeholders, it is entirely likely that a solution could have been identified to bring the athletics department onto more solid financial footing. See the article released today about a small increase in student fees coupled with the contributions of the Football Foundation for additional details.

11) HE HAS LIED TO THE FACULTY SENATE AND TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT HIS INTENTIONS REGARDING ATHLETICS. Why would anyone trust his statement of commitment to any component of the university? A leader who cannot be trusted is not fit to be a leader. He has lost the faith and trust of the student body, the faculty, the alumni, and the Blazer nation.

These are just the things I can think of off the top of my head...I suspect someone more eloquent than I (58-56) could probably identify even more, and possibly turn it into a Declaration of Independence style treatise on the wrongs inflicted by a sadistic overlord wannabe.
12-05-2014 04:23 PM
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Very good points KSUBlazer. I made many of those in my letter to the Faculty Senate which I have not sent yet. I may edit a bit to incorporate some of these.

We should have a drink sometime. I live nearby.
12-05-2014 06:14 PM
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RE: More Inside Info (Senate)
(12-05-2014 03:15 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  
(12-05-2014 03:06 PM)sadolakced Wrote:  
(12-04-2014 04:34 PM)Rocket City Blazer Wrote:  
(12-04-2014 04:20 PM)Desert_Blazer Wrote:  
(12-04-2014 04:13 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  Only when he wants to address them. Which he will not this time. He made his address last meeting.

This. At institutions where I have worked (and served as a voting faculty senate rep) administration stays away from faculty senate unless it simply cannot be avoided.

I can't see him avoiding this one. Now, if there are a few hundred students....

As far as I'm aware only faculty and staff are allowed at the meeting?

Do you mean outside the building protesting?

Not true.

From the Faculty Senate:

Quote:The Faculty Senate will meet on Tuesday, December 9th from 7:30-9:30 am in the Finley Conference Center in the Kaul Genetics Building. Topics on the agenda include: Address and Q&A with the Provost; General Education proposal; ADCOM proposal; UAB Athletics and Athletic Team Support; and Shared Governance. An open forum time for faculty concerns was also included. An agena will be available on the Faculty Senate document website https://uabweb.ad.uab.edu/senate/Pages/S...spx(select the "agendas" tab). Attendance is open to all UAB community.

http://www.uab.edu/facultysenate/

Fair enough; the event description I saw said something different.
12-05-2014 06:14 PM
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RE: More Inside Info (Senate)
(12-05-2014 06:14 PM)legalblazer Wrote:  Very good points KSUBlazer. I made many of those in my letter to the Faculty Senate which I have not sent yet. I may edit a bit to incorporate some of these.

We should have a drink sometime. I live nearby.

Word. I figured there had to be more than just me around here!
12-05-2014 08:24 PM
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