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(12-06-2014 11:16 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
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(12-04-2014 09:23 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  Hearing from a usually reliable source that NMSU may be the new favorite to replace UAB as an all sports member in CUSA West. CUSA covets their MBB.

That would be a totally stupid move by CUSA and I can't think of anything that would get WKU, MTSU, ODU, Marshall, Charlotte, FIU or FAU to vote for it

As for the Western schools other than UTEP....the closes school is UTSA at almost 600 miles UNT almost 700 miles away Rice 800, Smiss almost 1200

Then what do they bring? S.Miss, Marshall, FIU, FAU are football first schools and S. Miss is a school that can't afford a extra 100k just to travel there when you have bus trips with USA and UL-L.

I will be shocked to see NMST replace UAB

Dude, La Tech fans will sell their souls if it keeps them in a league with no other Louisiana schools. Same goes for USM and South Al.

Never understood all the issues between schools in Louisiana. Have a good friend at McNeese who says it borders on the ridiculous.
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(12-07-2014 02:58 PM)slycat Wrote:  UTSA AD is pro TXST to CUSA. or she was a year ago

She is.
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RE: So which school calls CUSA first?
If we are talking about trickle down movement, then I think here is what happens:

Big 12 - takes Cincinnati and Memphis (yes, I know Memphis football isn't great, but would they beat Iowa State? besides, the basketball would be outstanding)
AAC - takes Rice and UTSA plus maybe a Northern Illinois, in order to create a 12 member league (UConn and Temple might feel like they are on an island, so I would think that there is even a possibility of the AAC taking 5)
CUSA - slim pickings at this point. No MAC team will make the jump, same for the MWC. Which leaves the Sun Belt. Louisiana and Arkansas State are my best guess.
Sun Belt - Prepare for at least a couple of move-ups (if not 4 to insulate it from its own demise).
MAC - loses Northern Illinois. Doesn't matter, that would bring them down to 12, no movement (if UMASS stays)
MWC - should stay the same (outside shot of UTEP and TxSt getting invite at same time)
SEC - stays the same
PAC 12 - stays the same
ACC - stays the same
Big 10 - stays the same

At least I can enjoy my Shiner Holiday Cheer and hope the Big 12 starts the process. A toast to everyone!
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RE: So which school calls CUSA first?
I think the Big XII will now press the issue for expansion now, with the Baylor/TCU fiasco.

This really opens CUSA up for also moving quickly. I could even see them adding 3 to get to 16 like their commissioner public stated he wants.

I think UL, stAte and another school will be making the move soon.

It's about time. Hopefully we can bid adieu to Krazy Karl - can't come soon enough!
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ULL, Ark State, and Tx State would be my dream adds to CUSA West.
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If the Sun Belt lost that many schools from the west, it would be best to move more towards the east coast with our footprint from Louisiana west being lost for the most part. Maybe even north-south divisions? JMU, UTC, CCU would all be good to look at.
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(12-07-2014 05:55 PM)davi78239 Wrote:  ULL, Ark State, and Tx State would be my dream adds to CUSA West.

Have a Hunch that even if the Musical Chairs begin again, La Tech would block ULL . The remaining Texas schools would block Tx State. Arkansas State is not in a significant TV Market but is a possibility.
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(12-07-2014 06:12 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  
(12-07-2014 05:55 PM)davi78239 Wrote:  ULL, Ark State, and Tx State would be my dream adds to CUSA West.

Have a Hunch that even if the Musical Chairs begin again, La Tech would block ULL . The remaining Texas schools would block Tx State. Arkansas State is not in a significant TV Market but is a possibility.
Latech will not block the Cajuns, the message board posters aren't the ones doing the voting.
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(12-07-2014 06:12 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  
(12-07-2014 05:55 PM)davi78239 Wrote:  ULL, Ark State, and Tx State would be my dream adds to CUSA West.

Have a Hunch that even if the Musical Chairs begin again, La Tech would block ULL . The remaining Texas schools would block Tx State. Arkansas State is not in a significant TV Market but is a possibility.

wrong.

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(12-07-2014 06:12 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  
(12-07-2014 05:55 PM)davi78239 Wrote:  ULL, Ark State, and Tx State would be my dream adds to CUSA West.

Have a Hunch that even if the Musical Chairs begin again, La Tech would block ULL . The remaining Texas schools would block Tx State. Arkansas State is not in a significant TV Market but is a possibility.

You've forgotten already? We claim Memphis. You can see Graceland from the top of Centennial Bank Stadium04-cheers
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(12-07-2014 03:06 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 11:16 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(12-04-2014 10:59 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(12-04-2014 09:23 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  Hearing from a usually reliable source that NMSU may be the new favorite to replace UAB as an all sports member in CUSA West. CUSA covets their MBB.

That would be a totally stupid move by CUSA and I can't think of anything that would get WKU, MTSU, ODU, Marshall, Charlotte, FIU or FAU to vote for it

As for the Western schools other than UTEP....the closes school is UTSA at almost 600 miles UNT almost 700 miles away Rice 800, Smiss almost 1200

Then what do they bring? S.Miss, Marshall, FIU, FAU are football first schools and S. Miss is a school that can't afford a extra 100k just to travel there when you have bus trips with USA and UL-L.

I will be shocked to see NMST replace UAB

Dude, La Tech fans will sell their souls if it keeps them in a league with no other Louisiana schools. Same goes for USM and South Al.

Never understood all the issues between schools in Louisiana. Have a good friend at McNeese who says it borders on the ridiculous.

Dude, your friend at McNeese need look no further than his own school to find where most of the dissension stems from. The ultimate in small cokx syndrome in LC.

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(12-07-2014 03:45 PM)txst_roundrock Wrote:  If we are talking about trickle down movement, then I think here is what happens:

Big 12 - takes Cincinnati and Memphis (yes, I know Memphis football isn't great, but would they beat Iowa State? besides, the basketball would be outstanding)
AAC - takes Rice and UTSA plus maybe a Northern Illinois, in order to create a 12 member league (UConn and Temple might feel like they are on an island, so I would think that there is even a possibility of the AAC taking 5)
CUSA - slim pickings at this point. No MAC team will make the jump, same for the MWC. Which leaves the Sun Belt. Louisiana and Arkansas State are my best guess.
Sun Belt - Prepare for at least a couple of move-ups (if not 4 to insulate it from its own demise).
MAC - loses Northern Illinois. Doesn't matter, that would bring them down to 12, no movement (if UMASS stays)
MWC - should stay the same (outside shot of UTEP and TxSt getting invite at same time)
SEC - stays the same
PAC 12 - stays the same
ACC - stays the same
Big 10 - stays the same

At least I can enjoy my Shiner Holiday Cheer and hope the Big 12 starts the process. A toast to everyone!

agree
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(12-04-2014 09:23 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  Hearing from a usually reliable source that NMSU may be the new favorite to replace UAB as an all sports member in CUSA West. CUSA covets their MBB.

Was this the same reliable source who told you the Uab story was all just drama in order to gin up contributions?
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(12-07-2014 03:45 PM)txst_roundrock Wrote:  If we are talking about trickle down movement, then I think here is what happens:

Big 12 - takes Cincinnati and Memphis (yes, I know Memphis football isn't great, but would they beat Iowa State? besides, the basketball would be outstanding)
AAC - takes Rice and UTSA plus maybe a Northern Illinois, in order to create a 12 member league (UConn and Temple might feel like they are on an island, so I would think that there is even a possibility of the AAC taking 5)
CUSA - slim pickings at this point. No MAC team will make the jump, same for the MWC. Which leaves the Sun Belt. Louisiana and Arkansas State are my best guess.
Sun Belt - Prepare for at least a couple of move-ups (if not 4 to insulate it from its own demise).
MAC - loses Northern Illinois. Doesn't matter, that would bring them down to 12, no movement (if UMASS stays)
MWC - should stay the same (outside shot of UTEP and TxSt getting invite at same time)
SEC - stays the same
PAC 12 - stays the same
ACC - stays the same
Big 10 - stays the same

At least I can enjoy my Shiner Holiday Cheer and hope the Big 12 starts the process. A toast to everyone!

Maybe. Heres mine:

Big 12- Takes Colorado St and Cincinnati or UCONN. Memphis doesnt have the football or academics.

AAC- Takes maybe Old Dominion? They wont take Rice because they already have a Houston school and UH will not allow it. UTSA is possible but I dont think UH and SMU lets that happen too. Who the AAC takes will be interesting but they dont have to take anyone with Navy coming in, they will be sitting at 12. So I think they stay put. No movement.

CUSA They are losing UAB. I think they take South Alabama or ULL.

Sun Belt With CUSA stealing one we need two. We pick up UMASS and a FCS move-up.

MWC Will need one losing CSU. Picks up BYU or a FCS move up like Montana St or NDST.
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(12-07-2014 06:16 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  
(12-07-2014 06:12 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  
(12-07-2014 05:55 PM)davi78239 Wrote:  ULL, Ark State, and Tx State would be my dream adds to CUSA West.

Have a Hunch that even if the Musical Chairs begin again, La Tech would block ULL . The remaining Texas schools would block Tx State. Arkansas State is not in a significant TV Market but is a possibility.

wrong.

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The other problem facing the best Sun Belt candidates for CUSA expansion is that we have only lost UAB. We only need twelve to hold a Championship. We have 13. So, unless AAC takes a Big Bite, may be no new Teams coming in. Otherwise, There is a chance that Louisiana or Arky State might be in the mix. Think we are at least 2-3 years away, depending on TV Contract.
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(12-07-2014 06:46 PM)trueblue21 Wrote:  
(12-07-2014 03:45 PM)txst_roundrock Wrote:  If we are talking about trickle down movement, then I think here is what happens:

Big 12 - takes Cincinnati and Memphis (yes, I know Memphis football isn't great, but would they beat Iowa State? besides, the basketball would be outstanding)
AAC - takes Rice and UTSA plus maybe a Northern Illinois, in order to create a 12 member league (UConn and Temple might feel like they are on an island, so I would think that there is even a possibility of the AAC taking 5)
CUSA - slim pickings at this point. No MAC team will make the jump, same for the MWC. Which leaves the Sun Belt. Louisiana and Arkansas State are my best guess.
Sun Belt - Prepare for at least a couple of move-ups (if not 4 to insulate it from its own demise).
MAC - loses Northern Illinois. Doesn't matter, that would bring them down to 12, no movement (if UMASS stays)
MWC - should stay the same (outside shot of UTEP and TxSt getting invite at same time)
SEC - stays the same
PAC 12 - stays the same
ACC - stays the same
Big 10 - stays the same

At least I can enjoy my Shiner Holiday Cheer and hope the Big 12 starts the process. A toast to everyone!

Maybe. Heres mine:

Big 12- Takes Colorado St and Cincinnati or UCONN. Memphis doesnt have the football or academics.

AAC- Takes maybe Old Dominion? They wont take Rice because they already have a Houston school and UH will not allow it. UTSA is possible but I dont think UH and SMU lets that happen too. Who the AAC takes will be interesting but they dont have to take anyone with Navy coming in, they will be sitting at 12. So I think they stay put. No movement.

CUSA They are losing UAB. I think they take South Alabama or ULL.

Sun Belt With CUSA stealing one we need two. We pick up UMASS and a FCS move-up.

MWC Will need one losing CSU. Picks up BYU or a FCS move up like Montana St or NDST.

Why the hell would the MW take an FCS move up, that's what the Sun Belt exists for . .
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(12-07-2014 06:58 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(12-07-2014 06:46 PM)trueblue21 Wrote:  
(12-07-2014 03:45 PM)txst_roundrock Wrote:  If we are talking about trickle down movement, then I think here is what happens:

Big 12 - takes Cincinnati and Memphis (yes, I know Memphis football isn't great, but would they beat Iowa State? besides, the basketball would be outstanding)
AAC - takes Rice and UTSA plus maybe a Northern Illinois, in order to create a 12 member league (UConn and Temple might feel like they are on an island, so I would think that there is even a possibility of the AAC taking 5)
CUSA - slim pickings at this point. No MAC team will make the jump, same for the MWC. Which leaves the Sun Belt. Louisiana and Arkansas State are my best guess.
Sun Belt - Prepare for at least a couple of move-ups (if not 4 to insulate it from its own demise).
MAC - loses Northern Illinois. Doesn't matter, that would bring them down to 12, no movement (if UMASS stays)
MWC - should stay the same (outside shot of UTEP and TxSt getting invite at same time)
SEC - stays the same
PAC 12 - stays the same
ACC - stays the same
Big 10 - stays the same

At least I can enjoy my Shiner Holiday Cheer and hope the Big 12 starts the process. A toast to everyone!

Maybe. Heres mine:

Big 12- Takes Colorado St and Cincinnati or UCONN. Memphis doesnt have the football or academics.

AAC- Takes maybe Old Dominion? They wont take Rice because they already have a Houston school and UH will not allow it. UTSA is possible but I dont think UH and SMU lets that happen too. Who the AAC takes will be interesting but they dont have to take anyone with Navy coming in, they will be sitting at 12. So I think they stay put. No movement.

CUSA They are losing UAB. I think they take South Alabama or ULL.

Sun Belt With CUSA stealing one we need two. We pick up UMASS and a FCS move-up.

MWC Will need one losing CSU. Picks up BYU or a FCS move up like Montana St or NDST.

Why the hell would the MW take an FCS move up, that's what the Sun Belt exists for . .

none of that stuff is happening.
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(12-07-2014 06:30 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(12-04-2014 09:23 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  Hearing from a usually reliable source that NMSU may be the new favorite to replace UAB as an all sports member in CUSA West. CUSA covets their MBB.

Was this the same reliable source who told you the Uab story was all just drama in order to gin up contributions?

No. That was just my opinion about the UAB deal. I thought it was going to turn out just like the Tulane deal did, with alumni coming to the rescue with big donations. I didn't realize just how badly the Tide intends to have it ALL in Alabama. As far as my usually reliable source, this person is involved in sports media and is usually ahead of most breaking stories, but I think that maybe this time the person spoke too soon. I think this Big 12 playoff debacle is going to completely change everything. I think The Big 12 will add two and get the dominoes falling again. Gonna get crazy very soon.
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(12-07-2014 07:20 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(12-07-2014 06:30 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(12-04-2014 09:23 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  Hearing from a usually reliable source that NMSU may be the new favorite to replace UAB as an all sports member in CUSA West. CUSA covets their MBB.

Was this the same reliable source who told you the Uab story was all just drama in order to gin up contributions?

No. That was just my opinion about the UAB deal. I thought it was going to turn out just like the Tulane deal did, with alumni coming to the rescue with big donations. I didn't realize just how badly the Tide intends to have it ALL in Alabama. As far as my usually reliable source, this person is involved in sports media and is usually ahead of most breaking stories, but I think that maybe this time the person spoke too soon. I think this Big 12 playoff debacle is going to completely change everything. I think The Big 12 will add two and get the dominoes falling again. Gonna get crazy very soon.
Or the NCAA allows a championship game for leagues with 10 or more members and you all are wrong.
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(12-07-2014 08:03 PM)GEAGLESJAG Wrote:  
(12-07-2014 07:20 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(12-07-2014 06:30 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(12-04-2014 09:23 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  Hearing from a usually reliable source that NMSU may be the new favorite to replace UAB as an all sports member in CUSA West. CUSA covets their MBB.

Was this the same reliable source who told you the Uab story was all just drama in order to gin up contributions?

No. That was just my opinion about the UAB deal. I thought it was going to turn out just like the Tulane deal did, with alumni coming to the rescue with big donations. I didn't realize just how badly the Tide intends to have it ALL in Alabama. As far as my usually reliable source, this person is involved in sports media and is usually ahead of most breaking stories, but I think that maybe this time the person spoke too soon. I think this Big 12 playoff debacle is going to completely change everything. I think The Big 12 will add two and get the dominoes falling again. Gonna get crazy very soon.
Or the NCAA allows a championship game for leagues with 10 or more members and you all are wrong.

The Big 12 is the only P5 with fewer than 12 members, why should the NCAA make an exception just for them? The more likely scenario is the Big 12 adds 2 members, just my opinion
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