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RE: Boise State #23, Marshall #24 in this week's CFP Poll
(11-25-2014 08:22 PM)traitmanz Wrote:  
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(11-25-2014 07:15 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  VERY interesting (to me at least) that CSU is not ranked above Boise State.

They lost to Boise and have beat no one.

They should be above Marshall.....CSU one loss is to Boise who played Ole Miss well for 3 quarters...They beat Boston College who manhandled USC and tangled well with Jameis State

Boise and CSU have both lost to a G5 team. Marshall has not.

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The MWC is the top G5 conference. CSU lost to Boise who will be representing the G5 in the access bowl. Boise lost to AFA which would about run over any C-USA team.
Marshal played no one...NO ONE

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Your opinion is as strong as your reasons for it.
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(11-25-2014 08:30 PM)monarx Wrote:  Marshall has beaten everyone who agreed to play them this season. An undefeated team not going to the playoffs is an absolute travesty. My guess is the committee feels safer choosing Boise simply because they've been there before and they dont want anyone else in the party. UCF crashed it last year, Boise has been doing it for years. I also find it funny a Hawaii fan is talking smack. Weren't they ones that went to a BCS bowl a few years back and got destroyed? I guess they shouldn't have gone that year either. I truly think a Marshall snub could be the demise of the playoff before it even gets started. The system is completely rigged and bogus.

People shouldn't forget that Bowl games are still all about putting as much money into the pockets of the bowl executives as humanly possible. The Peach Bowl with its Chick-Fil-A affiliation was one of the very few that actually did anything even remotely close to charitable donations or work for their communities. It was well documented in the book Death to the BCS and even it was minimal at best.

Dont think for a second that Bowl execs arnt in the ears of the 12 stooges.
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(11-25-2014 08:37 PM)Cnelson203 Wrote:  It's what I expected. Go Herd...beat the Hilltoppers. It's the only thing that matters.

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RE: Boise State #23, Marshall #24 in this week's CFP Poll
(11-25-2014 08:50 PM)traitmanz Wrote:  
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(11-25-2014 08:22 PM)traitmanz Wrote:  
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(11-25-2014 07:51 PM)traitmanz Wrote:  They should be above Marshall.....CSU one loss is to Boise who played Ole Miss well for 3 quarters...They beat Boston College who manhandled USC and tangled well with Jameis State

Boise and CSU have both lost to a G5 team. Marshall has not.

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The MWC is the top G5 conference. CSU lost to Boise who will be representing the G5 in the access bowl. Boise lost to AFA which would about run over any C-USA team.
Marshal played no one...NO ONE

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Air Force got beat by 6-5 San Diego St. and 4-7 Wyoming so I doubt they would scare anyone in CUSA.

Boise lost to this Air Force team and got beat by 3 TDs against the only P5 team they played.

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RE: Boise State #23, Marshall #24 in this week's CFP Poll
(11-25-2014 09:59 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
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(11-25-2014 09:52 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 09:33 PM)Herdfan07 Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 09:23 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  I don't get it. You whine asking why P5 wins are better than MAC wins. Then you make a deal out of a G5 loss

Its simple how can the best g5 team be a team that was beaten by a g5 team. Boise didnt beat anyone in the p5 and they lost to air force. So I honestly from any stand point see them being the best g5.

CSU is a different situation. I could see them beat in us out for a slot due to only having one loss, yet beating 2 p5. (Situation that ecu was in)

LOL it's not science. Not every time you plug in the same numbers, are you going to get the same result.

Nope its not science. Thats why its a farce. Only in college football can a team get rewarded for losing to a p5 while not even keeping it close.

You can mock it all you want but it follows their agenda. If they put a Boise state team in there and they beat their opponent in the access bowl they can point to the p5 loss and the g5 loss of why they were never in consideration for anything more.

If marshall goes and beats their opponent in the access bowl then they only have sos to point out of why they waited to rank them. They dont want a undefeated try ram from the g5 in that playoff ever.
They don't get rewarded. People actually get to see what their talent level is. Who knows what Marshall's is. The truth is there probably won't ever be a G5 team good enough to be in the playoff.

Good enough? You mean good enough in the eyes of the 12 agenda driven stooges or actually good enough to play football vs the "power" 03-lmfao 5 teams in the 4 team "playoff"???
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RE: Boise State #23, Marshall #24 in this week's CFP Poll
The 12 stooges are the worst thing to ever happen to football.
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(11-25-2014 08:49 PM)KTNHerd Wrote:  
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(11-25-2014 07:15 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  VERY interesting (to me at least) that CSU is not ranked above Boise State.

They lost to Boise and have beat no one.

They should be above Marshall.....CSU one loss is to Boise who played Ole Miss well for 3 quarters...They beat Boston College who manhandled USC and tangled well with Jameis State

Is Hawaii still a state? Can we kick them out and give them to Australia or China or something and let Puerto Rico in instead?

why dont we have a national vote to decide which state gets kicked out, west virginia or hawaii

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Boise State #23, Marshall #24 in this week's CFP Poll
Don't AAC fans cry when Marshall fans post on their board?
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Don't understand how CSU got killed by BSU (37-10 heading into the 4th) yet beat BC. Marshall is undefeated by faltered against UAB. Had last week's Marshall team faced Air Force or CSU (BSU & CSU only loss) they too would have lost. I would hate to be the CFP board deciding who is the tallest midget this year.
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(11-25-2014 10:37 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 08:49 PM)KTNHerd Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 07:51 PM)traitmanz Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 07:22 PM)MU42 Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 07:15 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  VERY interesting (to me at least) that CSU is not ranked above Boise State.

They lost to Boise and have beat no one.

They should be above Marshall.....CSU one loss is to Boise who played Ole Miss well for 3 quarters...They beat Boston College who manhandled USC and tangled well with Jameis State

Is Hawaii still a state? Can we kick them out and give them to Australia or China or something and let Puerto Rico in instead?

why dont we have a national vote to decide which state gets kicked out, west virginia or hawaii

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The committee will make a statement on future OOC scheduling here with these next couple of weeks. Marshall could have had this in the bag with Louisville remaining on the schedule, but that was out of their hands.

It's unfortunate, but they would be justified in leaving Marshall out with a strength-of-schedule argument. Logical or not, I'd still be pissed having my team go undefeated only to be left out.

Looking at Hawaii's 2007 season as a reference, they didn't schedule that strong, either. However, they built on the previous year's 11-3 season before going 12-0 and losing the Sugar Bowl to Georgia. If only you guys had Cato one more year, I think you could have been like us and had a strong case for Top 25 early on in the season. But UCF lost their junior quarterback to the draft like you guys will lose Cato in his 5th year.

Does Marshall have any good prospects coming in at QB?
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This cuts like a knife to all Herd fans, but unfortunately its out of our hands. Don't see Boise losing and even if they do Colorado St jumps Marshall. We can only focus on what we can control and that's our first cusa championship and a undefeated season. I don't think its fair but no need to cry over spilled milk. Go Herd
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you still haven't

answered my question
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Boise State #23, Marshall #24 in this week's CFP Poll
Marshall went 10-4 last year; destroying ECU and Maryland at the end of the season.
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Marshall went 10-4 last year; destroying ECU and Maryland at the end of the season





Exactly which unfortunately just shows how little research the committee puts into the G5 schools. They are more familiar with Boise St based on the history and success of Boise St so I think it is just easier to place a G5 school at the top of the polls that they are familiar with.

Just to let you know this is one jealous ECU fan that is pulling for Marshall to get the G5 Access spot. You guys are family to ECU even if we fight like siblings. Boise St and CSU are just two unfamiliar schools way out West to me while Marshall is a program that ECU has had a relationship with going back 5 decades. CUSA is also a Conference that I pull for because it was home to ECU for almost 20yrs so I would love to see CUSA get the kind of exposure that we all longed for and almost got except for Southern Miss upsetting Houston in the Championship game. I hope Marshall crushes WKU and throttles who ever they play in the CUSA Championship game. I think Utah St has a punchers chance of beating Boise St or they stumble in the Championship game. I do not think that CSU leap frogs Marshall since Marshall is in the Poll finally. You guys just take care of business and hopefully the MWC will eat its own and Marshall gets the G5 Access Bowl spot and proves any critics wrong by winning the Access Bowl against the arrogant dbag P5 school you play.
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(11-26-2014 07:21 AM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  Marshall went 10-4 last year; destroying ECU and Maryland at the end of the season





Exactly which unfortunately just shows how little research the committee puts into the G5 schools. They are more familiar with Boise St based on the history and success of Boise St so I think it is just easier to place a G5 school at the top of the polls that they are familiar with.

Just to let you know this is one jealous ECU fan that is pulling for Marshall to get the G5 Access spot. You guys are family to ECU even if we fight like siblings. Boise St and CSU are just two unfamiliar schools way out West to me while Marshall is a program that ECU has had a relationship with going back 5 decades. CUSA is also a Conference that I pull for because it was home to ECU for almost 20yrs so I would love to see CUSA get the kind of exposure that we all longed for and almost got except for Southern Miss upsetting Houston in the Championship game. I hope Marshall crushes WKU and throttles who ever they play in the CUSA Championship game. I think Utah St has a punchers chance of beating Boise St or they stumble in the Championship game. I do not think that CSU leap frogs Marshall since Marshall is in the Poll finally. You guys just take care of business and hopefully the MWC will eat its own and Marshall gets the G5 Access Bowl spot and proves any critics wrong by winning the Access Bowl against the arrogant dbag P5 school you play.

Thank you.

My post was in response to someone saying Marshall would be much higher rated if they had something to build on from last year.
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This is why Marshall should have found ANY P5 team that had an opening, even for a 1-and-done, and scheduled that game this year. Even if that team wasn't a world beater, it would have given Marshall alot more respect going on the road for the win, vs. scheduling half of the MAC East.
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(11-26-2014 12:23 AM)TampaKnight Wrote:  It's unfortunate, but they would be justified in leaving Marshall out with a strength-of-schedule argument. Logical or not, I'd still be pissed having my team go undefeated only to be left out.

I appreciate the effort to be reasoned here, but that doesn't make this any more accurate. There is no justification for leaving out an undefeated team while arbitrarily putting a team ahead that has two losses including one to another G5 program. As one Marshall poster put it, Marshall has zero losses to a G5 while both Boise and Colo St have one each. This isn't about saying Marshall is worthy for the playoff or even a top 10 team. This is about whether Marshall should be the representative for the Access Bowl, and there can be no debate about that if they finish 13-0. And I would say that if it were a MWC, MAC or AAC school. If they lose then it all becomes moot, but right now there is no justification that can make that right by leaving them out when they have done everything they were supposed to do. The committee is applying very arbitrary rules to something that Marshall either had no control over or didn't have time to change. What's worse the committee is acting like Marshal's conference schedule was against Division II. Again, 16-4 tells us the league Marshall has dominated is not that bad.

(11-26-2014 12:23 AM)TampaKnight Wrote:  Looking at Hawaii's 2007 season as a reference, they didn't schedule that strong, either. However, they built on the previous year's 11-3 season before going 12-0 and losing the Sugar Bowl to Georgia. If only you guys had Cato one more year, I think you could have been like us and had a strong case for Top 25 early on in the season. But UCF lost their junior quarterback to the draft like you guys will lose Cato in his 5th year.

This is wrong too. Last year has absolutely no bearing on this year. Hawaii did not enter that 12-0 season ranked. They got there by doing exactly what Marshall has done this year. Whether it was NIU, Boise, Hawaii, Utah, etc. they've all had less than stellar schedules but undefeated was enough, and it should be enough here too, especially since Marshall nor anyone else had advance notice from the committee on what more was going to be needed than a freaking undefeated season. Besides, Marshall was 10-4 with a bowl win over a P5 school last year. That's not much of a departue from Hawaii being 11-3 particularly considering Hawaii got to play their bowl game at home. What the committee is doing borders on unethical and I'm now really beginning to wonder how much influence Luck is actually having on the committee to keep Marshall out. It's certainly not in his best interest to see Marshall get the Access slot.
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RE: Boise State #23, Marshall #24 in this week's CFP Poll
The difference is that Utah, Boise, NIU, and Hawaii all played and beat P5 teams during their seaons for which they gained BCS bowls.
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