(11-23-2014 12:19 AM)banker Wrote:  So an analyst calling an AAC game was speaking well of the conference being represented by the two teams on the field? Interesting. Wonder what he would say if he was calling the CSU Air Force game next week?

Well to be fair it is hard to disagree with what you say. Announcers always try to prop up the teams and the confernces they are covering that day.

(11-23-2014 11:50 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 12:19 AM)banker Wrote:  So an analyst calling an AAC game was speaking well of the conference being represented by the two teams on the field? Interesting. Wonder what he would say if he was calling the CSU Air Force game next week?

Well to be fair it is hard to disagree with what you say. Announcers always try to prop up the teams and the confernces they are covering that day.

Didn't watch many Big East football games I take it?

(11-23-2014 11:50 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 12:19 AM)banker Wrote:  So an analyst calling an AAC game was speaking well of the conference being represented by the two teams on the field? Interesting. Wonder what he would say if he was calling the CSU Air Force game next week?

Well to be fair it is hard to disagree with what you say. Announcers always try to prop up the teams and the confernces they are covering that day.

A good UCF team was soundly defeated by UConn at UConn... Cincinnati beat UConn at UConn and that game wasn't even close.

I think propping up had nothing to do with it, IMO.

(11-23-2014 12:02 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 11:50 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 12:19 AM)banker Wrote:  So an analyst calling an AAC game was speaking well of the conference being represented by the two teams on the field? Interesting. Wonder what he would say if he was calling the CSU Air Force game next week?

Well to be fair it is hard to disagree with what you say. Announcers always try to prop up the teams and the confernces they are covering that day.

Didn't watch many Big East football games I take it?

Absolutely true. And not only that, but Banker is incorrect that the commentators were pumping both teams on the field. One of them was UConn, lol. Chavous was pushing Cincy and MEMPHIS, who wasn't in that game.

(11-23-2014 12:02 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 11:50 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 12:19 AM)banker Wrote:  So an analyst calling an AAC game was speaking well of the conference being represented by the two teams on the field? Interesting. Wonder what he would say if he was calling the CSU Air Force game next week?

Well to be fair it is hard to disagree with what you say. Announcers always try to prop up the teams and the confernces they are covering that day.

Didn't watch many Big East football games I take it?

Lol! I was thinking the same thing.

(11-23-2014 12:53 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 12:19 AM)banker Wrote:  So an analyst calling an AAC game was speaking well of the conference being represented by the two teams on the field? Interesting. Wonder what he would say if he was calling the CSU Air Force game next week?

The two teams on the field? Cincinnati was playing UConn. Try to keep up.

Try reading what I typed again, realize you are wrong, and try again. Btw, during the Boise game last night the analysts were saying a MWC team deserved the bid, further reinforcing the point. You can tell which school in your conference attracts the best students, the SMU fan had no problem understanding my post or the logic behind it.

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Sounds great but the Mountain West has two teams currently either ranked (CSU) or receiving votes (Boise) in the coaches poll. The AAC has only Cincy. It will interesting to see if the AAC picks up more votes this week. It's possible.

BTW, the only team in the AAC who has a winning record OOC is ECU. Just saying.

AP Poll today: #19 Marshall #21 Colorado St. #25 Boise St..... Coaches Poll: #20 Marshall #21 Colorado St #25 Boise St. Only AAC team receiving votes in AP: Memphis (3 votes) I don't know if any AAC teams got votes in coaches poll. Anyone?

(11-23-2014 02:28 PM)banker Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 12:53 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 12:19 AM)banker Wrote:  So an analyst calling an AAC game was speaking well of the conference being represented by the two teams on the field? Interesting. Wonder what he would say if he was calling the CSU Air Force game next week?

The two teams on the field? Cincinnati was playing UConn. Try to keep up.

Try reading what I typed again, realize you are wrong, and try again. Btw, during the Boise game last night the analysts were saying a MWC team deserved the bid, further reinforcing the point. You can tell which school in your conference attracts the best students, the SMU fan had no problem understanding my post or the logic behind it.

You are right. I misread it. You said the conference represented by the 2 teams on the field. It doesn't change anything in the point, was just a zing at you, b/c you're so fricking sensitive. And your zinger response was typical lame stuff.

Back to the OP. It is irrelevant what other commentators say. I didn't post this to represent that EVERYONE agreed with it. Opinions vary. Point is, someone who knows what he is talking about said the AAC champ would make the best candidate. That's interesting for us to read here.

It just gets your goat that Marshall is being unfairly criticized in your mind, so you feel obliged to roam around trying to shoot down every opinion that differs from yours. Tough. Forget it. You get little sympathy here. Go back to your own board, where you will get a better reception, and stop trying to defend Marshall on every other board in the universe.

(11-22-2014 11:51 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 11:35 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  Sounds great but the Mountain West has two teams currently either ranked (CSU) or receiving votes (Boise) in the coaches poll. The AAC has only Cincy. It will interesting to see if the AAC picks up more votes this week. It's possible.

BTW, the only team in the AAC who has a winning record OOC is ECU. Just saying.

None of that matters. All this stuff is debatable. I'm simply passing along what one professional said was his opinion, b/c it was favorable to the AAC, and I had not heard anybody in the business say that publicly before.

BTW, the polls you mention don't mean anything. Only the CFP poll counts, and it comes out Tuesday night. And unless a G5 team is ranked, we won't have any clue where any of the teams stand for the G5 slot.

I think the committee is not going to show their G5 cards until all the games are done. Probably best. Things change week to week.

(11-23-2014 02:43 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:28 PM)banker Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 12:53 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 12:19 AM)banker Wrote:  So an analyst calling an AAC game was speaking well of the conference being represented by the two teams on the field? Interesting. Wonder what he would say if he was calling the CSU Air Force game next week?

The two teams on the field? Cincinnati was playing UConn. Try to keep up.

Try reading what I typed again, realize you are wrong, and try again. Btw, during the Boise game last night the analysts were saying a MWC team deserved the bid, further reinforcing the point. You can tell which school in your conference attracts the best students, the SMU fan had no problem understanding my post or the logic behind it.

You are right. I misread it. You said the conference represented by the 2 teams on the field. It doesn't change anything in the point, was just a zing at you, b/c you're so fricking sensitive. And your zinger response was typical lame stuff.

Back to the OP. It is irrelevant what other commentators say. I didn't post this to represent that EVERYONE agreed with it. Opinions vary. Point is, someone who knows what he is talking about said the AAC champ would make the best candidate. That's interesting for us to read here.

It just gets your goat that Marshall is being unfairly criticized in your mind, so you feel obliged to roam around trying to shoot down every opinion that differs from yours. Tough. Forget it. You get little sympathy here. Go back to your own board, where you will get a better reception, and stop trying to defend Marshall on every other board in the universe.

He stalks anyone who comments on Marshall on this board. He can't help himself really.

(11-23-2014 02:45 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 11:51 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 11:35 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  Sounds great but the Mountain West has two teams currently either ranked (CSU) or receiving votes (Boise) in the coaches poll. The AAC has only Cincy. It will interesting to see if the AAC picks up more votes this week. It's possible.

BTW, the only team in the AAC who has a winning record OOC is ECU. Just saying.

None of that matters. All this stuff is debatable. I'm simply passing along what one professional said was his opinion, b/c it was favorable to the AAC, and I had not heard anybody in the business say that publicly before.

BTW, the polls you mention don't mean anything. Only the CFP poll counts, and it comes out Tuesday night. And unless a G5 team is ranked, we won't have any clue where any of the teams stand for the G5 slot.

I think the committee is not going to show their G5 cards until all the games are done. Probably best. Things change week to week.

That's what they have appeared to be doing. And I don't think Marshall did themselves any favors by pulling a stinker against uab with this much scrutiny going on.

UV, I agree about the committee. The only way we figure it out ahead of time is if they actually put a G5 into the top 25, like ECU the first week. Gives us something to talk about, either way, but I prefer to see where everybody stands, just like those going for the 4 playoff berths.

As for banker, yeah, I'm here enough to see his MO. He is on here almost every day, it seems.

(11-23-2014 02:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:45 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 11:51 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 11:35 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  Sounds great but the Mountain West has two teams currently either ranked (CSU) or receiving votes (Boise) in the coaches poll. The AAC has only Cincy. It will interesting to see if the AAC picks up more votes this week. It's possible.

BTW, the only team in the AAC who has a winning record OOC is ECU. Just saying.

None of that matters. All this stuff is debatable. I'm simply passing along what one professional said was his opinion, b/c it was favorable to the AAC, and I had not heard anybody in the business say that publicly before.

BTW, the polls you mention don't mean anything. Only the CFP poll counts, and it comes out Tuesday night. And unless a G5 team is ranked, we won't have any clue where any of the teams stand for the G5 slot.

I think the committee is not going to show their G5 cards until all the games are done. Probably best. Things change week to week.

That's what they have appeared to be doing. And I don't think Marshall did themselves any favors by pulling a stinker against uab with this much scrutiny going on.

they didn't. Marshall is #20 with Colorado St #21 and Boise St #25 in coaches poll. Marshall's slipping while mwc teams gaining. Memphis with 3 votes would need a heck of a finish to catch up...frustrating as ECU was in drivers seat just 2 weeks ago....

(11-23-2014 02:57 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:45 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 11:51 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 11:35 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  Sounds great but the Mountain West has two teams currently either ranked (CSU) or receiving votes (Boise) in the coaches poll. The AAC has only Cincy. It will interesting to see if the AAC picks up more votes this week. It's possible.

BTW, the only team in the AAC who has a winning record OOC is ECU. Just saying.

None of that matters. All this stuff is debatable. I'm simply passing along what one professional said was his opinion, b/c it was favorable to the AAC, and I had not heard anybody in the business say that publicly before.

BTW, the polls you mention don't mean anything. Only the CFP poll counts, and it comes out Tuesday night. And unless a G5 team is ranked, we won't have any clue where any of the teams stand for the G5 slot.

I think the committee is not going to show their G5 cards until all the games are done. Probably best. Things change week to week.

That's what they have appeared to be doing. And I don't think Marshall did themselves any favors by pulling a stinker against uab with this much scrutiny going on.

they didn't. Marshall is #20 with Colorado St #21 and Boise St #25 in coaches poll. Marshall's slipping while mwc teams gaining. Memphis with 3 votes would need a heck of a finish to catch up...frustrating as ECU was in drivers seat just 2 weeks ago....

But that poll doesn't count, nor does the AP. The CFP poll differs somewhat in the details of the top 25, vs. the other polls, so no way to tell where anybody really stands, unless a G5 pops up in the CFP poll tonight.

(11-23-2014 03:12 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:57 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:45 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 11:51 PM)TripleA Wrote:  None of that matters. All this stuff is debatable. I'm simply passing along what one professional said was his opinion, b/c it was favorable to the AAC, and I had not heard anybody in the business say that publicly before.

BTW, the polls you mention don't mean anything. Only the CFP poll counts, and it comes out Tuesday night. And unless a G5 team is ranked, we won't have any clue where any of the teams stand for the G5 slot.

I think the committee is not going to show their G5 cards until all the games are done. Probably best. Things change week to week.

That's what they have appeared to be doing. And I don't think Marshall did themselves any favors by pulling a stinker against uab with this much scrutiny going on.

they didn't. Marshall is #20 with Colorado St #21 and Boise St #25 in coaches poll. Marshall's slipping while mwc teams gaining. Memphis with 3 votes would need a heck of a finish to catch up...frustrating as ECU was in drivers seat just 2 weeks ago....

But that poll doesn't count, nor does the AP. The CFP poll differs somewhat in the details of the top 25, vs. the other polls, so no way to tell where anybody really stands, unless a G5 pops up in the CFP poll tonight.

good point, and you are correct but I think csu rising in both polls, Marshall slipping and Boise now getting in both proves something

(11-23-2014 02:57 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:45 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 11:51 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 11:35 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  Sounds great but the Mountain West has two teams currently either ranked (CSU) or receiving votes (Boise) in the coaches poll. The AAC has only Cincy. It will interesting to see if the AAC picks up more votes this week. It's possible.

BTW, the only team in the AAC who has a winning record OOC is ECU. Just saying.

None of that matters. All this stuff is debatable. I'm simply passing along what one professional said was his opinion, b/c it was favorable to the AAC, and I had not heard anybody in the business say that publicly before.

BTW, the polls you mention don't mean anything. Only the CFP poll counts, and it comes out Tuesday night. And unless a G5 team is ranked, we won't have any clue where any of the teams stand for the G5 slot.

I think the committee is not going to show their G5 cards until all the games are done. Probably best. Things change week to week.

That's what they have appeared to be doing. And I don't think Marshall did themselves any favors by pulling a stinker against uab with this much scrutiny going on.

they didn't. Marshall is #20 with Colorado St #21 and Boise St #25 in coaches poll. Marshall's slipping while mwc teams gaining. Memphis with 3 votes would need a heck of a finish to catch up...frustrating as ECU was in drivers seat just 2 weeks ago....

Yep. If Colorado State wins next week they are likely to overtake Marshall in every poll, because Colorado State plays Air Force while Marshall plays it next FCS opponent (Western Kentucky). Boise State has an outside shot at passing Marshall too, because Boise State plays Utah State. Those are the top 4 MWC teams in action against each other. I think that USU will beat Boise State, because USU actually has real D1 players.

(11-23-2014 03:12 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:57 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:45 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 11:51 PM)TripleA Wrote:  None of that matters. All this stuff is debatable. I'm simply passing along what one professional said was his opinion, b/c it was favorable to the AAC, and I had not heard anybody in the business say that publicly before.

BTW, the polls you mention don't mean anything. Only the CFP poll counts, and it comes out Tuesday night. And unless a G5 team is ranked, we won't have any clue where any of the teams stand for the G5 slot.

I think the committee is not going to show their G5 cards until all the games are done. Probably best. Things change week to week.

That's what they have appeared to be doing. And I don't think Marshall did themselves any favors by pulling a stinker against uab with this much scrutiny going on.

they didn't. Marshall is #20 with Colorado St #21 and Boise St #25 in coaches poll. Marshall's slipping while mwc teams gaining. Memphis with 3 votes would need a heck of a finish to catch up...frustrating as ECU was in drivers seat just 2 weeks ago....

But that poll doesn't count, nor does the AP. The CFP poll differs somewhat in the details of the top 25, vs. the other polls, so no way to tell where anybody really stands, unless a G5 pops up in the CFP poll tonight.

You are right, but if you are not ranked in that poll at 10-0 and you struggled with a really bad team to get to 11-0; and the two rivals for the bowl that you are looking to get are about to finish their season playing two really good opponents (CSU v. AFA/USU v. Boise State), then one of your rivals is going to get the big bowl if they win out. I think that USU will beat Boise State this week and CSU will beat AFA.

(11-23-2014 06:16 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 03:12 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:57 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:45 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  I think the committee is not going to show their G5 cards until all the games are done. Probably best. Things change week to week.

That's what they have appeared to be doing. And I don't think Marshall did themselves any favors by pulling a stinker against uab with this much scrutiny going on.

they didn't. Marshall is #20 with Colorado St #21 and Boise St #25 in coaches poll. Marshall's slipping while mwc teams gaining. Memphis with 3 votes would need a heck of a finish to catch up...frustrating as ECU was in drivers seat just 2 weeks ago....

But that poll doesn't count, nor does the AP. The CFP poll differs somewhat in the details of the top 25, vs. the other polls, so no way to tell where anybody really stands, unless a G5 pops up in the CFP poll tonight.

You are right, but if you are not ranked in that poll at 10-0 and you struggled with a really bad team to get to 11-0; and the two rivals for the bowl that you are looking to get are about to finish their season playing two really good opponents (CSU v. AFA/USU v. Boise State), then one of your rivals is going to get the big bowl if they win out. I think that USU will beat Boise State this week and CSU will beat AFA.

I agree with that scenario. Problem is, we're all assuming the CFP is following the same thinking and direction as the other polls. There have been some fairly stark differences between the CFP and the others, to date.