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How do you beat the Chips?
First off this isn't a juggernaut. The difference in their Purdue win and our Purdue loss, had more to do with game film and experience.
A. They had something to look at when preparing for Purdue.
B. We have gotten better every game since then. They've gotten worse.
C. The NIU win looks impressive, but basically NIU reflects being the tallest midget in weak schedule, and CMU was just taller.
D. CMU looked very pedestrian against UB, Miami, UT, Syracuse, and BSU.

Field position- Possessions need to start inside the 30. Field position was the difference in last years game. Special teams will be key.

Don't change now- CMU probably has the best receivers we will face this year. That said, let Rush or Davis beat you, but don't let them establish a consistent running game. Continue to play man coverage, and stack the line to stop the run game. It's kind of a pick your poison choice, but CMU tends to run routes that take time to develop. Stack the line, apply pressure, and don't give them time to get into a rhythm.

Pressure the weak links- Ramadan Ahmeti (I believe he's the RT) struggles at pass blocking. He's a sack machine if you consistently bring pressure off the edge. Play man coverage, stack the line, and bring pressure.

Cooper Rush has marginal pocket presence. He can move up field, but struggles moving laterally when pressured. Has trouble hanging on to the ball as well. WMU can risk playing man if it means getting bodies in the backfield. Rush's turnovers in last years game were all do to pressure.

Exploit soft coverage at the line. We've been very good at runs after the catch off from short passes and bubble screens. WRs have gotten very good at blocking down field. CMU's DBs play zone and often give ten yard cushions at the line. Take what they give you.

Use Philips and Braverman in the jet sweep and read options. Watched a lot of teams (including Miami) beat their defense to the corner.

Establish the short passing game first, establish the run off that, go to play action next, and take shots down field once they bring their defense up. Chimp DB's don't get their heads around on deep balls. They face guard, have bad hips, and use their hands a lot beyond 5 yards. They can be beat deep, and they get called for holding a lot on deep balls and in man coverage.

Avoid slant routes early- Probably the best thing they do on defense. LBers drop into coverage well, Chrirocci/Anesse make punishing hits, and Walton has long arms. Bats down a lot of throws over the middle. Most of their picks have been on short curls and slant routes. Those routes may open up if the run game is established and they can freeze the LBers with play action, but until then slants might be dangerous.

Put the pedal to the medal in the second half. Take some chances. Enos gets conservative in the second half and likes to sit on leads. He doesn't do well when taken out of his comfort zone.

Morris Watts is predictable. There's nothing fancy in his offense, and I wouldn't expect surprises. That said, Pinkham has shown a knack for bringing blitz packages at opportune times and being one step ahead of the opposing offense. Hopefully Watts's vanilla approach is predictable enough to exploit.

If weather conditions are terrible, a solid running attack and a short game pasing attack has an advantage over a team that needs to run deeper routes.
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RE: How do you beat the Chips?
(11-19-2014 06:41 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  Chip great analyst, you know your stuff. I watched two replays of the chips your right on, there soft zone is begging for the quick screen or jet sweep action. If we don't try to pound them in the middle we should move the ball.


First off this isn't a juggernaut. The difference in their Purdue win and our Purdue loss, had more to do with game film and experience.
A. They had something to look at when preparing for Purdue.
B. We have gotten better every game since then. They've gotten worse.
C. The NIU win looks impressive, but basically NIU reflects being the tallest midget in weak schedule, and CMU was just taller.
D. CMU looked very pedestrian against UB, Miami, UT, Syracuse, and BSU.

Field position- Possessions need to start inside the 30. Field position was the difference in last years game. Special teams will be key.

Don't change now- CMU probably has the best receivers we will face this year. That said, let Rush or Davis beat you, but don't let them establish a consistent running game. Continue to play man coverage, and stack the line to stop the run game. It's kind of a pick your poison choice, but CMU tends to run routes that take time to develop. Stack the line, apply pressure, and don't give them time to get into a rhythm.

Pressure the weak links- Ramadan Ahmeti (I believe he's the RT) struggles at pass blocking. He's a sack machine if you consistently bring pressure off the edge. Play man coverage, stack the line, and bring pressure.

Cooper Rush has marginal pocket presence. He can move up field, but struggles moving laterally when pressured. Has trouble hanging on to the ball as well. WMU can risk playing man if it means getting bodies in the backfield. Rush's turnovers in last years game were all do to pressure.

Exploit soft coverage at the line. We've been very good at runs after the catch off from short passes and bubble screens. WRs have gotten very good at blocking down field. CMU's DBs play zone and often give ten yard cushions at the line. Take what they give you.

Use Philips and Braverman in the jet sweep and read options. Watched a lot of teams (including Miami) beat their defense to the corner.

Establish the short passing game first, establish the run off that, go to play action next, and take shots down field once they bring their defense up. Chimp DB's don't get their heads around on deep balls. They face guard, have bad hips, and use their hands a lot beyond 5 yards. They can be beat deep, and they get called for holding a lot on deep balls and in man coverage.

Avoid slant routes early- Probably the best thing they do on defense. LBers drop into coverage well, Chrirocci/Anesse make punishing hits, and Walton has long arms. Bats down a lot of throws over the middle. Most of their picks have been on short curls and slant routes. Those routes may open up if the run game is established and they can freeze the LBers with play action, but until then slants might be dangerous.

Put the pedal to the medal in the second half. Take some chances. Enos gets conservative in the second half and likes to sit on leads. He doesn't do well when taken out of his comfort zone.

Morris Watts is predictable. There's nothing fancy in his offense, and I wouldn't expect surprises. That said, Pinkham has shown a knack for bringing blitz packages at opportune times and being one step ahead of the opposing offense. Hopefully Watts's vanilla approach is predictable enough to exploit.

If weather conditions are terrible, a solid running attack and a short game pasing attack has an advantage over a team that needs to run deeper routes.
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RE: How do you beat the Chips?
Score more points
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(11-20-2014 03:46 AM)New School Bronco Wrote:  Score more points

Amen!
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(11-20-2014 03:46 AM)New School Bronco Wrote:  Score more points



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(11-20-2014 03:46 AM)New School Bronco Wrote:  Score more points

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RE: How do you beat the Chips?
Okay, jokes are always funny the first time, not so much after that.

Anybody ever watch them? Any constructive feedback?
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RE: How do you beat the Chips?
You pretty much said it all.

I too, want us to sell out on the run and take our chances in the secondary one-on-one. I want to see our D-line and LB's get pressure on Pooper and force him out of the pocket as much as possible.

Offensively, we don't need to change a thing. Just do what we do and we should be fine. I am a little worried about Terrell in this game, because I do think the Chips are one of the better defensive teams we've seen up until this point. They'll pressure Terrell and cover everything over the middle. So I hope Ciarrocca dials it back slightly and draws up lots of pitch and catch plays, swing passes and end around's to Phillips and Braverman. I agree that we can beat them to the corners. That should eventually keep them honest and open up the middle a little bit as the game progresses. I also wouldn't mind seeing us pull out some trick plays.

The main key will be jumping out to an early lead so that we can force CMU to beat us through the air. If we force them to be a passing team, it's over.

I think we win a close game regardless of how much Franklin plays on Saturday. Chance is completely capable, and could even have a big day if given a decent workload. He understands the rivalry better than anyone on this team, has an edge in experience, and would probably love nothing more than getting another shot at them.

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RE: How do you beat the Chips?
I think it will come down to the passing game. Terrell and the WMU receivers have been perfect lately. I want to see some shots down-field early like we saw against EMU. Stretch them out and then punch Franklin/whoever up the gut. When they catch on to that, start some swing passes, end-arounds, trickeration. It all starts with the passing game though.

And on the other side, we need to get pressure on Rush. I've seen their games, and when Rush gets pressured he looks like a chicken with his head cut off. Can't throw, can't run. Pressure pressure pressure! That's the key.
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RE: How do you beat the Chips?
Offensively this game hinges on Cooper Rush and nobody else, plain and simple. You expect good games out of Davis and Rawls, so I don't see them as being the x factor.

Sure Rawls could run for 300 yards and make it easy on Rush but that is unlikely. Hell even if he runs for 200 that doesn't mean we will win. Rush needs to make safe passes if our run game is established. If not, he will need to make smart decisions. He is a solid QB and I expect him to get a shot in the NFL come the end of his senior season, since he is only a Sophomore.....but that is a ways away. He gets flustered under pressure and will throw it into double coverage a lot. If he limits his performance to 1 tunover or less, we can win. If he has a game like he did last year against WMU, CMU loses by 21+.

If CMU pressures Rush, this will be a long day for us.
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(11-20-2014 06:39 PM)george14 Wrote:  He is a solid QB and I expect him to get a shot in the NFL come the end of his senior season

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(11-20-2014 06:45 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  
(11-20-2014 06:39 PM)george14 Wrote:  He is a solid QB and I expect him to get a shot in the NFL come the end of his senior season

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Wait... 03-idea Was this comment serious? 04-jawdrop

You don't think a Sophomore QB whom barring a catastrophic injury, will get a shot in the NFL after his senior year of football when he will have 4 years of starting experience under his belt? He currently has the 2nd best passing efficiency in the MAC, which will get better as the years go on.

Ok.
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How do you beat the Chips?
Can't wait to see him next year without Davis and Rawls.
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RE: How do you beat the Chips?
(11-20-2014 06:51 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  Can't wait to see him next year without Davis and Rawls.

You are derailing this thread. I made a comment that I sincerely believe.
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How do you beat the Chips?
Why, because I don't agree with you that Rush is an NFL talent?

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(11-20-2014 06:57 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  Why, because I don't agree with you that Rush is an NFL talent?

It's Western/Central week. Grow a pair. 03-melodramatic

Because it has nothing to do with the thread topic.


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RE: How do you beat the Chips?
(11-20-2014 06:39 PM)george14 Wrote:  Offensively this game hinges on Cooper Rush and nobody else, plain and simple. You expect good games out of Davis and Rawls, so I don't see them as being the x factor.

Sure Rawls could run for 300 yards and make it easy on Rush but that is unlikely. Hell even if he runs for 200 that doesn't mean we will win. Rush needs to make safe passes if our run game is established. If not, he will need to make smart decisions. He is a solid QB and I expect him to get a shot in the NFL come the end of his senior season, since he is only a Sophomore.....but that is a ways away. He gets flustered under pressure and will throw it into double coverage a lot. If he limits his performance to 1 tunover or less, we can win. If he has a game like he did last year against WMU, CMU loses by 21+.

If CMU pressures Rush, this will be a long day for us.

Thank you for your analysis.

This will certainly be a hard fought game.

Both teams are bringing quality passing and running games.

I think defense is going to determine the winner.
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RE: How do you beat the Chips?
I know Morris Watts called him the most accurate passer he has ever seen, but Mo's pushing 80 and I suspect his memory is starting to fail him.

He's an accurate passer when given time. He has no feel for the pocket. It takes more than being able to hit a tire swing to make it in the NFL. The NFL is too fast for a QB like Rush. He'll have a nice college career, but he won't get a sniff at the NFL.
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