(11-10-2014 01:41 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  I like Dodson. He deserves more PT at OM, but that RB room is loaded. Mathers, Walton, Wilkins. Not to mention a Juco that was RS'd and a 4-star incoming.

That being said, I haven't heard that rumor. Makes sense, but not sure if it's real...

For the most part their running game has sucked

(11-10-2014 03:19 PM)TigerEdward Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 03:09 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 01:43 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Don't forget that Warford may be back

Where is he enrolled this year?

Cisco junior college in Texas. He is sitting out and hoping to transfer back to Memphis possibly. Still has to be worked out with the staff as he left under bad terms but has been trying to do everything expected for the opportunity to return. Very fluid situation since the possibility of Brian Kimbrow has come up since. Just my opinion, but I think the staff passes on Warford coming back if Kimbrow is in the fold and eligible to play. You get Kimbrow and stay in good shape with South Panola's Darell Henderson, that is a couple great additions to the Memphis backfield as both are really good speed guys.

Sitting out? I wonder why he isn't playing? Anyway, CJF was high on this kid coming out of high school. He has some jets.

(11-10-2014 05:09 PM)budtigerm Wrote:  Don't use the Fuente transferred argument. It won't work and here is why. Murray State never tried to recruit Fuente while Memphis had offered Dodson a scholarship. If we quit taking these players who are so enamored with the SEC and then find out they can't cut it, and want to come back to play at Memphis. You will see a major uptick in our local recruiting. By taking these players that want to come back all you are doing is making sure you will not get a Memphis high school player who is decent to come to Memphis out of high school. Because they will know they can always come back to Memphis after going to another school. NO WAY PERIOD. You will kill local recruiting.

That might be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read

(11-10-2014 05:19 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 05:09 PM)budtigerm Wrote:  Don't use the Fuente transferred argument. It won't work and here is why. Murray State never tried to recruit Fuente while Memphis had offered Dodson a scholarship. If we quit taking these players who are so enamored with the SEC and then find out they can't cut it, and want to come back to play at Memphis. You will see a major uptick in our local recruiting. By taking these players that want to come back all you are doing is making sure you will not get a Memphis high school player who is decent to come to Memphis out of high school. Because they will know they can always come back to Memphis after going to another school. NO WAY PERIOD. You will kill local recruiting.

That might be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read

The nascar guy and this bud guy think it will KILL local recruiting ..

some Easterwood guy thinks it will not ...

I dont know who to believe .....

I wonder what not taking a local kid who wants to come here and could help the program just because you are buthurt does for local recruiting.

Bet that goes over great with the local high school coaches.

(11-10-2014 05:19 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 05:09 PM)budtigerm Wrote:  Don't use the Fuente transferred argument. It won't work and here is why. Murray State never tried to recruit Fuente while Memphis had offered Dodson a scholarship. If we quit taking these players who are so enamored with the SEC and then find out they can't cut it, and want to come back to play at Memphis. You will see a major uptick in our local recruiting. By taking these players that want to come back all you are doing is making sure you will not get a Memphis high school player who is decent to come to Memphis out of high school. Because they will know they can always come back to Memphis after going to another school. NO WAY PERIOD. You will kill local recruiting.

That might be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read

Now that was indeed jaw-dropping.

(11-10-2014 03:05 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 02:28 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 02:24 PM)budtigerm Wrote:  I wouldn't take his ass back if he came to us on a silver platter. The transfer from Vandy was kicked off his team and I can excuse that so take him back. However, because this vaulted running back is not getting enough playing time after he made such a big to do about playing in the SEC NO Fricking WAY! If he is kicked off the team, maybe, but not to quit and come here because he is not getting enough playing time. Screw him and all the prep players who think they are too good to come to MEMPHIS. Do not under any circumstances take the quitter back. I don't want quitters and hope Fuente feels the same way.

I'm sorry, but what a stupid viewpoint. You can be petty if ya want to...I'll take talent however I can get it.

FWIW, I'm not attacking you personally...just your opinion.

Think it is a solid view point. Seems that integrity, personal responsibility, and having to live with your decisions are gone in today's society. While it may be better in the short term for the player and the team. In the long run it helps to add another straw to the back of the camel. What happens to these kids after their playing days are over if they do not get a concept of what life is really like? Life is not going to change the rules for them. So either they learn to live under the rules and accept the circumstances of their decisions. Or they go through life without any responsibility and becomes a burden on the responsible people in this country.

Posts like this are why we don't have our own bagmen yet.

#OffCampusBagmenNow

(11-10-2014 06:00 PM)Tony85 Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 05:19 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 05:09 PM)budtigerm Wrote:  Don't use the Fuente transferred argument. It won't work and here is why. Murray State never tried to recruit Fuente while Memphis had offered Dodson a scholarship. If we quit taking these players who are so enamored with the SEC and then find out they can't cut it, and want to come back to play at Memphis. You will see a major uptick in our local recruiting. By taking these players that want to come back all you are doing is making sure you will not get a Memphis high school player who is decent to come to Memphis out of high school. Because they will know they can always come back to Memphis after going to another school. NO WAY PERIOD. You will kill local recruiting.

That might be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read

Now that was indeed jaw-dropping.

In an honest effort to make sure I fully understand exactly what you're saying...a local, awesome star recruit is being recruited by Ole Miss and Memphis very heavily. You're saying that if we have allowed other recruits to transfer back, the high school star would pick Ole Miss, not because it's currently a higher profile program and not because it's in the league dominating national championships and in sending guys to the pros, but because he could come back to Memphis? At the same time, if we didn't ever allow transfers back (of course unless they were kicked out of there school or off their team), then the same recruit would pick Memphis over Ole Miss (again program further along and in best league) because they wouldn't have a chance to come back to Memphis? Is that accurate, or did I miss some of the logic you're using?

If this is accurate, we can get into how this may or may not affect the attitudes of 18yo choosing a college program to sign with.

(11-10-2014 05:16 PM)arltiger Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 01:41 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  I like Dodson. He deserves more PT at OM, but that RB room is loaded. Mathers, Walton, Wilkins. Not to mention a Juco that was RS'd and a 4-star incoming.

That being said, I haven't heard that rumor. Makes sense, but not sure if it's real...

For the most part their running game has sucked

No doubt. It aint due to a lack of talent at RB. The o-line is really, REALLY weak.

(11-10-2014 03:11 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 02:24 PM)budtigerm Wrote:  I don't want quitters and hope Fuente feels the same way.

Are you implying that Fuente is a quitter? He transferred in college. I doubt he feels the same way.

Walk off.

Tons of kids transfer...all over the country. It is not just a mispiiii or other lower tier SEC school having kids transfer to a Memphis. Example...we had a kid transfer to Miami. Lots more too.

There certainly can be reasons not to be interested in a transfer....but a blanket statement about them is ridiculous.

Even pretty boy at misppiiiii, the one with the wavy hair who fumbles at poor moments, started his career at Arkansas State.

Any stud recruit who has a chance to excel in the SEC will take it 9 times out of 10 and why wouldn't they? If they want to come back and HELP, then cool.

(11-10-2014 08:12 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Any stud recruit who has a chance to excel in the SEC will take it 9 times out of 10 and why wouldn't they? If they want to come back and HELP, then cool.

If Memphis is relevant, the Tigers can get a good percentage of stud recruits. Not everyone has the lack if vision and low self esteem that you think.

(11-10-2014 05:09 PM)budtigerm Wrote:  Don't use the Fuente transferred argument. It won't work and here is why. Murray State never tried to recruit Fuente while Memphis had offered Dodson a scholarship. If we quit taking these players who are so enamored with the SEC and then find out they can't cut it, and want to come back to play at Memphis. You will see a major uptick in our local recruiting. By taking these players that want to come back all you are doing is making sure you will not get a Memphis high school player who is decent to come to Memphis out of high school. Because they will know they can always come back to Memphis after going to another school. NO WAY PERIOD. You will kill local recruiting.

What?

I think you take each case on an individual basis.

Your stance is too hard line for 18 year olds.

You have every right to your opinion and I have every right to be glad you're not the one making the decisions.

BB

(11-10-2014 10:22 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 08:12 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Any stud recruit who has a chance to excel in the SEC will take it 9 times out of 10 and why wouldn't they? If they want to come back and HELP, then cool.

If Memphis is relevant, the Tigers can get a good percentage of stud recruits. Not everyone has the lack if vision and low self esteem that you think.

Sorry, but I'm not buying that. And despite what some people here might think...I'd really like to see Memphis "get a good percentage of stud recruits".

You said "if Memphis is relevant..." - I think we can all agree 03-08 was probably our most relevant stretch in recent history.

Well, from 2003-2008 the top local recruits (4-star/5-star kids) chose the likes of Tennessee, Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, and Alabama...just like they do today.

Granted, Memphis kept some 3-stars home and if CJF can do that going forward then Memphis could make serious noise...but let's not get carried away, the elite kids around here want to play in the Power 5.

Heck, we have had a great year so far...Dillon Mitchell at WHS still chose Oregon.

That's just the way it is...

(11-10-2014 10:22 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 08:12 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Any stud recruit who has a chance to excel in the SEC will take it 9 times out of 10 and why wouldn't they? If they want to come back and HELP, then cool.

If Memphis is relevant, the Tigers can get a good percentage of stud recruits. Not everyone has the lack if vision and low self esteem that you think.

I agree, but we are talking about a recruit from several years ago when were at our lowest. With that said, the SEC is the SEC.

Can this Dude bring it? If so we take him, these sec transfers only help in recruiting by simply saying, you can get a lot more playing time at MEMPHIS then being the second string player in the grand sec. I wonder how Delangelo would have fared had he gone to a sec team?

(11-11-2014 08:16 AM)memphisike Wrote:  Can this Dude bring it? If so we take him, these sec transfers only help in recruiting by simply saying, you can get a lot more playing time at MEMPHIS then being the second string player in the grand sec. I wonder how Delangelo would have fared had he gone to a sec team?

These kids definitely roll the dice. Bama has some serious studs riding the pine every year who could have stood out at other programs.

Memphis coaches are letting local recruits know that we are not option B. If you want to be a Tiger get on the train. If not,good luck.

(11-10-2014 03:05 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 02:28 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 02:24 PM)budtigerm Wrote:  I wouldn't take his ass back if he came to us on a silver platter. The transfer from Vandy was kicked off his team and I can excuse that so take him back. However, because this vaulted running back is not getting enough playing time after he made such a big to do about playing in the SEC NO Fricking WAY! If he is kicked off the team, maybe, but not to quit and come here because he is not getting enough playing time. Screw him and all the prep players who think they are too good to come to MEMPHIS. Do not under any circumstances take the quitter back. I don't want quitters and hope Fuente feels the same way.

I'm sorry, but what a stupid viewpoint. You can be petty if ya want to...I'll take talent however I can get it.

FWIW, I'm not attacking you personally...just your opinion.

Think it is a solid view point. Seems that integrity, personal responsibility, and having to live with your decisions are gone in today's society. While it may be better in the short term for the player and the team. In the long run it helps to add another straw to the back of the camel. What happens to these kids after their playing days are over if they do not get a concept of what life is really like? Life is not going to change the rules for them. So either they learn to live under the rules and accept the circumstances of their decisions. Or they go through life without any responsibility and becomes a burden on the responsible people in this country.

...but licking your wounds and trying to correct your "mistakes" is off the table?