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(11-02-2014 04:45 PM)arrows80 Wrote:  

(11-02-2014 02:02 PM)goldsworth Wrote:  

(11-02-2014 11:49 AM)arrows80 Wrote:  Nice work.

One minor correction - Georgia Southern technically isn't bowl eligible this year, though they're working to change that.

hey Arrow 80 are you from Dearborn or did you go to high school in Dearborn?

No on both counts.

There is the Lowell Red Arrows

http://www.hustlebelt.com/mac-football/2...are-we-now

Quote:SB Nation does not believe that Central Michigan will go bowling, even if they finish 8-4.

bwahahahaha!

Quote:SB Nation does not believe that Central Michigan will go bowling, even if they finish 8-4.

Yeah, that's a ridiculous statement -- they have NO IDEA what they're talking about (unless I'm missing a big controversy they don't mention).

We have 5 MAC tie-ins to bowls. GuaranSheed. CMU, by NCAA rules, has to be chosen over any MAC 6-6 left-overs (Ohio or Akron).

Toledo: 8-4/7-5
NIU: 8-4/7-5
BGSU: 7-5/8-4
WMU: 7-5/8-4
CMU: 7-5/8-4

Akron (4-4): 6-6/7-5
Ohio (4-5): 6-6

The only way for CMU not to go would be:

a) The MAC only getting those 5 bowls, which is a decent possibility, but also just a decent possibility they’ll have ANOTHER ONE, too
b) Akron goes 7-5 (going 3-1 rest of the way), which is possible; OR not-going-to-happen Ohio winning out (3-0)
c) Despite Akron’s HORRIBLE (non-fixed ala EMU-style) attendance, bottom of the MAC, bowls still choose 7-5 Akron over 8-4 CMU.

All that would have to come together. Why would one think CMU is in position to be shunned?

(11-04-2014 01:18 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  

Quote:SB Nation does not believe that Central Michigan will go bowling, even if they finish 8-4.

Yeah, that's a ridiculous statement -- they have NO IDEA what they're talking about (unless I'm missing a big controversy they don't mention).

There are very plausible scenario's out there where the MAC could easily end up with 7 teams with 7 wins (CMU, BGSU, Akron, Ohio, Toledo, WMU, and NIU).

CMU could very well be left out with 8 wins, because there are plenty of other "sexier" MAC options (a.k.a better story-lines and better markets). If it plays out this way, their only hope is that the Big Ten doesn't qualify enough teams and they get a bid to Detroit. But even then, they might get snubbed in favor of someone like WMU, BGSU, or Toledo depending on how it all plays out.

This assumes Toledo wins the West and either BGSU/Akron represents the East in the MACC.

Not that far-fetched IMO.

Quote:because there are plenty of other "sexier" MAC options (a.k.a better story-lines and better markets)

Akron, who has the worst registered attendance in the conference, is sexier than CMU (to non-WMU fans)?

Ohio is under .500 right now. Then winning out to go 7-5? And Akron going 3-1 to go 7-5?

I guess Marshall loses in their CUSAC game to LA-Tech who lost to a D1AA team this year, Boise loses in the reg, but then Colorado State loses to then 7-6 San Diego State in the MW championship because Nevada lost in the reg... and an 8-4 UCF ends up on top of the AAC Due to tie-breakers -- and we win the MACC at 10-3, and go to the Access Bowl. :)

OK, better chances for Akron & Ohio to BOTH be 7-5. :) But not way better...

(11-04-2014 06:50 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  

Quote:because there are plenty of other "sexier" MAC options (a.k.a better story-lines and better markets)

Akron, who has the worst registered attendance in the conference, is sexier than CMU (to non-WMU fans)?

Ohio is under .500 right now. Then winning out to go 7-5? And Akron going 3-1 to go 7-5?

OK, better chances for Akron & Ohio to BOTH be 7-5. :) But not way better...

Given the choice, Akron will be the more attractive option for bowl officials for at least two big reasons:
1) Bobby Bowden name recognition and turnaround story
2) Cleveland-Akron T.V. market is #17 in the nation

Akron's remaining schedule: BG at home (winnable, and if they do, in control of the East), Buffalo, UMass, Kent St. - three worst teams in the east. Wouldn't rule it out.

Ohio should be favored in all three games remaining on their schedule: NIU and Buffalo at home, Miami on the road. They'd also get the nod over CMU I bet.

Quote:Given the choice, Akron will be the more attractive option for bowl officials for at least two big reasons:
1) Bobby Bowden name recognition and turnaround story
2) Cleveland-Akron T.V. market is #17 in the nation

You make a decent point on #2. #1 -- turnaround story for what? His hair change? Loss in weight? :)

Quote:Akron's remaining schedule: BG at home (winnable, and if they do, in control of the East), Buffalo, UMass, Kent St. - three worst teams in the east. Wouldn't rule it out.

Well, it's 4 more games. Akron has been wobbly. Yes, Pohl is back, so I think they'll stabilize. Buffalo & Kent -- OK. Even though Kent's D seems to be going pretty good (we'll see tonight).

BGSU is pretty good. They could win it, but both against them and UMass? UMass is pretty good. Close to Akron in the MAC, and UMass played a very tough OOC game with some close ones. They're not a pushover. Took Toledo to the end. IMO, UMass is better than Akron right now -- but Akron's Pohl being back could remedy that.

Akron (4-4):
4-8: 5%
5-7: 15%
6-6: 50%
7-5: 20%
8-4: 10%

Quote:Ohio should be favored in all three games remaining on their schedule: NIU and Buffalo at home, Miami on the road.

Ohio SUCKS. Decent D, although we scored a little too easily on them. Their other QB coming in was actually way better than their fill-in starter, but not enough to be grand. Favored over NIU? I know NIU's a notch or two lower, but Ohio hasn't impressed anybody this year.

Ohio (4-5):
4-8: 10%
5-7: 30%
6-6: 45%
7-5: 15%

IMO, Akron has a 30% chance of going 7+ wins, and Ohio has 15% chance of winning out to 7. I guess combined, *1* of them getting to 7 isn't outlandish or terribly surprising. So it would be too much for me to say "no way" to one of them getting to 7. I wouldn't count on it, but wouldn't make say "wow" at all.

But I will say "HA - Yeah right" for BOTH combining for 6-1 the rest of the way to have them both making it not bowl eligible, but each to 7 wins. :) I'll eat crow like Colonel had to, after he jinxed things when Franklin lost a fumble this weekend.

(11-04-2014 07:50 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  #1 -- turnaround story for what? His hair change? Loss in weight? :)

1-11 in his first year, 5-7 second year, to bowl eligible/7 wins this season.

(11-04-2014 07:50 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  IMO, UMass is better than Akron right now

(11-04-2014 07:50 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  Ohio SUCKS.

So does Buffalo and Miami, and getting a NIU at home... they should win that game.

Quote:1-11 in his first year, 5-7 second year, to bowl eligible/7 wins this season.

Ehhh, I see it more like: Going from 5-7 to 7-5. His new blonde hairdo and loss of weight will be a bigger "turnaround", IMO.

Quote: IMO, UMass is better than Akron right now
04-jawdrop

Again, Right Now. :) With how Akron's played recently + how UMass has... UMass is more Potentially dangerous than flat-out dangerous. But Akron has no O (but good D). Miami has no D, but good O.

Quote:So does [sucking] Buffalo and Miami, and getting a NIU at home... they should win that game.

I don't think NIU's on the scale of Miami and Buffalo. I would say roughly Buffalo if they weren't in such a coaching change fiasco. NIU's at least a notch above all of them. Those ba$tards know how to win, even when they're not doing great (sans CMU at home, their last two home losses over the last several years).

Re: Akron... Pohl had 62 (!!) pass attempts tonight.

(He completed half of them and threw 3 picks).

That's all, carry on.

Yeah, Pohl threw for 50%, 0TD 3INT. 5 turnovers for Akron -- second game they've done that. Lost 27-10. Akron had more yards, though. They just screwed up too much again, it being at home, too.

Akron (4-5) - Now tied with UMass 2-3 in MAC East, must win ALL 3 to get to 7 Wins (@Buffalo, UMass, @Kent) -- I give it a 20% chance. BGSU game didn't impress me. They're too sloppy to win ALL 3. We'll get a good look at Buffalo tomorrow, though.

(11-04-2014 07:36 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  

(11-04-2014 06:50 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  

Quote:because there are plenty of other "sexier" MAC options (a.k.a better story-lines and better markets)

Akron, who has the worst registered attendance in the conference, is sexier than CMU (to non-WMU fans)?

Ohio is under .500 right now. Then winning out to go 7-5? And Akron going 3-1 to go 7-5?

OK, better chances for Akron & Ohio to BOTH be 7-5. :) But not way better...

Given the choice, Akron will be the more attractive option for bowl officials for at least two big reasons:
1) Bobby Bowden name recognition and turnaround story
2) Cleveland-Akron T.V. market is #17 in the nation

Akron's remaining schedule: BG at home (winnable, and if they do, in control of the East), Buffalo, UMass, Kent St. - three worst teams in the east. Wouldn't rule it out.

Ohio should be favored in all three games remaining on their schedule: NIU and Buffalo at home, Miami on the road. They'd also get the nod over CMU I bet.

lol

How's the weather in the land of make-believe today?

Thanks.

(11-05-2014 08:25 AM)arrows80 Wrote:  

(11-04-2014 07:36 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  

(11-04-2014 06:50 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  

Quote:because there are plenty of other "sexier" MAC options (a.k.a better story-lines and better markets)

Akron, who has the worst registered attendance in the conference, is sexier than CMU (to non-WMU fans)?

Ohio is under .500 right now. Then winning out to go 7-5? And Akron going 3-1 to go 7-5?

OK, better chances for Akron & Ohio to BOTH be 7-5. :) But not way better...

Given the choice, Akron will be the more attractive option for bowl officials for at least two big reasons:
1) Bobby Bowden name recognition and turnaround story
2) Cleveland-Akron T.V. market is #17 in the nation

Akron's remaining schedule: BG at home (winnable, and if they do, in control of the East), Buffalo, UMass, Kent St. - three worst teams in the east. Wouldn't rule it out.

Ohio should be favored in all three games remaining on their schedule: NIU and Buffalo at home, Miami on the road. They'd also get the nod over CMU I bet.

lol

How's the weather in the land of make-believe today?

Thanks.

Why is it that folks from "cell-block U" always are curious what the weather is like? It was my understanding the DOC is required to provide an hour of "yard time" each day. Did they change that?

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You might as well put it in your signature

I still believe a 7-5 Akron team gets picked over an 8-4 CMU team.

Really hoping Akron wins their remaining 3 games even more now.

(11-05-2014 09:34 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  I still believe a 7-5 Akron team gets picked over an 8-4 CMU team.

Really hoping Akron wins their remaining 3 games even more now.

I doubt it. If they're both 7-5 maybe. Even though CMU is a tiny media market these bowls are looking for ticket sales. Akron's like EMU it's a commuter college for kids in the greater Cleveland area. I doubt they'll travel unless Akron is legitimately good, and they're not.

The Slappies travel well if the weather is perfect and they can drive home the same evening.

I liked the International Bowl. It was a great weekend, great town, and it didn't drain tour bank account doing it.

(11-05-2014 09:58 AM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  I liked the International Bowl. It was a great weekend, great town, and it didn't drain tour bank account doing it.

Speak for yourself... a night out on the town in Toronto =

Quote:I still believe a 7-5 Akron team gets picked over an 8-4 CMU team. Really hoping Akron wins their remaining 3 games even more now.

Yes, Ohio & Akron each need to win ALL their games to have a POSSIBLE chance at getting selected over another 7+ win team in the conf. I want them to, IF they're playing well, to get to 7W so they may fill in a bowl somewhere, where there's a shortage and only spare 6-6 teams available (who they'd trump).

I don't think a 7-5 Akron team would be selected over an 8-4 CMU team, or possibly a 7-5 CMU team. If a bowl game was in Ohio -- sure, I agree. Other than that, no. Akron has little attendance. They're trying to start a program (it's like sticks in a campfire that won't catch). IF there's less fans in the audience, there's probably less fans watching on TV, too (at least the default reasoning I imagine of those who select the teams).

(11-05-2014 11:11 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  

(11-05-2014 09:58 AM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  I liked the International Bowl. It was a great weekend, great town, and it didn't drain tour bank account doing it.

Speak for yourself... a night out on the town in Toronto =

I never got that far. Snuck out of the hotel on our senior trip in high school, only to immediately have a guy in a fishnet shirt start vogue-ing in my personal space. Ran right back into the hotel for some free euchre.