(11-01-2014 01:03 AM)Maiamire Wrote: Or how about this? Memphis clocks in somewhere between 230-250
Cincinnati Band: Between 200-250
UCF: 305
ECU: ~250
UCONN: 300+
Tulane: Just over 90
Houston: 350
USF: 330
SMU: 90-100
Just a sample of numbers from the other bands in our conference. As you can see, we are not the largest (And not even close to being the smallest).
But our band is not 'Tiny' By any means.
I call bull.
Can you inform us on the deal with the same tired ass music as well?
Music is not free. If you want the band to play something different, offer to purchase the band the rights to receive the sheet music. The same tired ass music is a direct result of the same tired ass donations.
Hard to believe we pay for that lame ass 'im so glad'. UT song.
I may just offer to purchase the band the rights to receive the sheet music to In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida, so I can see the band play the entire 17 minute song.
(11-01-2014 05:30 PM)snowtiger Wrote: Is that for the rights too?
I doubt it,but I dont know how it works anymore. Back in the day, you had to pay the rights, which allowed you to play the song anf you were entitled to so many copies. Then it was so much for each additional copy. I dont know how it works now.
(10-31-2014 11:50 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote: Our band used to be huge. It's a money deal.
I've said it before and I don't mind repeating it, with the musical heritage and history of Memphis, it should have the best band in the land. And the school should find ways to fund it. Period.
(11-01-2014 01:03 AM)Maiamire Wrote: Or how about this? Memphis clocks in somewhere between 230-250
Cincinnati Band: Between 200-250
UCF: 305
ECU: ~250
UCONN: 300+
Tulane: Just over 90
Houston: 350
USF: 330
SMU: 90-100
Just a sample of numbers from the other bands in our conference. As you can see, we are not the largest (And not even close to being the smallest).
But our band is not 'Tiny' By any means.
I call bull.
Can you inform us on the deal with the same tired ass music as well?
Music is not free. If you want the band to play something different, offer to purchase the band the rights to receive the sheet music. The same tired ass music is a direct result of the same tired ass donations.
Always someone else's fault. You gonna match my donation?
Not someone else's fault, your fault. Man up and pay for that new music you want.
You remind me of a complete idiot back in the 80's who bitched about our high school marching band playing the same music every year. I told him that we played an entirely new program with new music every year. He was like, no way, I hear this same song every year. It goes "nah nah nah nahhhhhh nahhhhhhh nahhhhh nahhhh nah nah nahhhhhhhhhhh"
I said, are referring to our fight song?
Lesson of the story, dont be like that idiot.
High school? This is college, playboy.
Cute story. You remind me of a complete idiot that offered an anecdote that neither answered nor solved the problem.
(11-01-2014 06:51 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:
(10-31-2014 11:50 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote: Our band used to be huge. It's a money deal.
I've said it before and I don't mind repeating it, with the musical heritage and history of Memphis, it should have the best band in the land. And the school should find ways to fund it. Period.
(10-31-2014 11:50 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote: Our band used to be huge. It's a money deal.
I've said it before and I don't mind repeating it, with the musical heritage and history of Memphis, it should have the best band in the land. And the school should find ways to fund it. Period.
(11-01-2014 11:08 AM)downsouth Wrote: I call bull.
Can you inform us on the deal with the same tired ass music as well?
Music is not free. If you want the band to play something different, offer to purchase the band the rights to receive the sheet music. The same tired ass music is a direct result of the same tired ass donations.
Always someone else's fault. You gonna match my donation?
Not someone else's fault, your fault. Man up and pay for that new music you want.
You remind me of a complete idiot back in the 80's who bitched about our high school marching band playing the same music every year. I told him that we played an entirely new program with new music every year. He was like, no way, I hear this same song every year. It goes "nah nah nah nahhhhhh nahhhhhhh nahhhhh nahhhh nah nah nahhhhhhhhhhh"
I said, are referring to our fight song?
Lesson of the story, dont be like that idiot.
High school? This is college, playboy.
Cute story. You remind me of a complete idiot that offered an anecdote that neither answered nor solved the problem.
(11-01-2014 06:51 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:
(10-31-2014 11:50 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote: Our band used to be huge. It's a money deal.
I've said it before and I don't mind repeating it, with the musical heritage and history of Memphis, it should have the best band in the land. And the school should find ways to fund it. Period.
True.
I'm assuming by your responses (if you can call them that) that the user name "butt-hurt" was already taken.....
I realize this will fall on deaf ears, but here goes.
There is an entire industry around marching bands and drum corps that is its own unique segment of music education. It is deemed inferior by the longhair music establishment. But the kids that eat and breathe this stuff love it. If you want an impressive marching band in West Tennessee, you have to tap these kids. To do that you have to treat that segment of music education as seriously as you do the rest of the arts. We don't do that.
If you wanted to make a real commitment to marching band education, you'd have to hire a few people to do nothing else. You'd have to fund positions for color guard and drum line coaching. You'd have to invest in the music and show design.
And you would have to have the proper facilities.
In a perfect world, the band rooms, sectional rooms, equipment storage, and locker rooms would all be designed into an on-campus stadium. Our football team practices on South Campus. The band can use the stadium. If you included marching band facilities in the on-campus stadium design, the university would become the best marching band facility in the nation overnight. With storage and facilities as part of the stadium, the band could utilize equipment and props that are not practical to use when transport is required. And, with the stadium available for rehearsal, the video and audio systems inside the stadium could be integrated with the actual shows. Halftime would become a multimedia experience unlike anything else in the country. With these facilities you could attract the education talent you need. The students would fight for positions.
That's how you could do it. It would be unstoppable. It won't happen.
(This post was last modified: 11-01-2014 09:26 PM by Claw.)
(11-01-2014 09:22 PM)Claw Wrote: t is deemed inferior by the longhair music establishment. But the kids that eat and breathe this stuff love it. If you want an impressive marching band in West Tennessee, you have to tap these kids. To do that you have to treat that segment of music education as seriously as you do the rest of the arts. We don't do that.
And we should,because the kids by this time are already heavily invested in their instrument. Both time and especially financially. It's not like they show up on a college campus, spend 3 weeks in a music class, then decide to drop the class. These kids and their parents have invested thousands by the time they graduate high school, and countless hours. The kids that they would be going after are very,very dedicated to this.
(11-01-2014 09:22 PM)Claw Wrote: t is deemed inferior by the longhair music establishment. But the kids that eat and breathe this stuff love it. If you want an impressive marching band in West Tennessee, you have to tap these kids. To do that you have to treat that segment of music education as seriously as you do the rest of the arts. We don't do that.
And we should,because the kids by this time are already heavily invested in their instrument. Both time and especially financially. It's not like they show up on a college campus, spend 3 weeks in a music class, then decide to drop the class. These kids and their parents have invested thousands by the time they graduate high school, and countless hours. The kids that they would be going after are very,very dedicated to this.
You know, you go on the internet and you see some really big bands and you think all bands must be that big, but they're not. Our band is probably within the average range and most people would be satisfied with our band. Sometimes, a really big band can be painful. It's really how well your band plays that matters.
(11-01-2014 01:03 AM)Maiamire Wrote: Or how about this? Memphis clocks in somewhere between 230-250
Cincinnati Band: Between 200-250
UCF: 305
ECU: ~250
UCONN: 300+
Tulane: Just over 90
Houston: 350
USF: 330
SMU: 90-100
Just a sample of numbers from the other bands in our conference. As you can see, we are not the largest (And not even close to being the smallest).
But our band is not 'Tiny' By any means.
People need to hoot and holler about something though, Maiamire.
I think it's around 200 for our band. They got a new marching band director this year and he is trying to breathe new life into the squad.
My son is in the band. It's closer to 130
15 seconds ago, I read this post, turned to my sophomore daughter who is in the band, and asked her how many are in the band. She said 190. I said your son said 130. She said that may be close for winds, but you have to add the guard and the drumline. The guard is like 20 all by itself.
(11-02-2014 12:14 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote: I've seen solid young tiger fans choose ole miss, UT, State etc because memphis didn't have the available band scholarships. Sad.
Being around the band and drum corps business for over 30 years, my thoughts......
Haven't seen Memphis' marching band live since the Memphis JSU game at least 6 years ago? I looked up a video on youtube.
Looks around 200 to me, I did my best to count looked like about 20 guard, 22 percussion (battery) and 150-160 horns. Band played some early 80's classics from the Blue Devils Drum and Bugle Corps.
I would argue the two best college bands in the south are Western Carolina University and Jacksonville State University.
Jacksonville State University is more of a traditional Drum Corps style show. An example can be seen here.
I have met the band director and the marching percussion director is a friend of mine.
Western Carolina University also very good playing a show that is more accessible to the "popcorn eaters" (that is most of you guys on here). Both the band director and marching percussion directors are friends of mine.
Jacksonville State University's Marching Band has been exceptional since at least the late 70's maybe earlier. Many of my friends attended school here and were in this band.
Western Carolina University's Marching Band's excellence hasn't been as long, maybe since the late 90's? The band director who built that program retired two? years ago and he was replaced with a very capable replacement.
If you look at Memphis' program you will notice they don't have a pit (front ensemble), not even for the Bandmasters. That is a dead give away that the program needs money. It takes money for those instruments and money for additional staff to teach and crew to hall all of that around. I also notice that Memphis' guard is small (20) for the size band. Memphis' show is bare bones, they have uniforms drums and horns, while these cost money too, it is the basics that one needs for a band nothing else. One also notices the lack of sophistication in the drill. Band scholarships are important since most of a marching band members are not music majors. Neither JSU or WCU's music departments have 400 plus music majors at each school. In fact I would bet that both schools music departments have fewer music majors that Memphis does. Most music majors are required to be in marching band anyway. Scholarships are important because to have sophisticated drills or visual programs the band director has to have, in addition to a top flight visual designer, members who can spend the additional time learning the show. This is time away from school work, or a job. It has nothing to do with school spirit. So unless daddy has the money to allow a student to not have a job and the student has plenty of time to study, then you need a certain amount of scholarships.
So bottom line it takes money first and a director who knows how to spend it wisely. If you have those then it is a matter of time before you show results.
They've been playing the same 5 tunes like forever while many other schools throw in a modern hit or something rememberable from recent past. I like Cameo's 'Word up' but josh, can't they find anything else
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Our band is tiny
