Average ranking based on the 6 computers that were used for the BCS:

Marshall - 22.17
Colorado State - 29.50
Boise - 31.50
ECU - 33.67
UCF - 41.17

Those are the top 5 G5 teams. Marshall is ranked highest on each of the 6 computer polls.

(10-31-2014 08:04 PM)banker Wrote:  Average ranking based on the 6 computers that were used for the BCS:

Marshall - 22.17
Colorado State - 29.50
Boise - 31.50
ECU - 33.67
UCF - 41.17

Those are the top 5 G5 teams. Marshall is ranked highest on each of the 6 computer polls.

That is not even close to how the BCS rankings would look for this season. The computer polls were only 1/3 of the formula plus they only use 4 of the 6 computer rankings. They would drop the highest and lowest ranking of the 6. Then 1/3 of the ranking came from the coaches poll. Then the final 1/3 came from the Harris poll which is no longer taking place this season.

I am too lazy to look up the computer poll rankings and do all the math for something that does not exist any longer but I suspect Marshall would probably still be ahead of ECU but those other schools would not be ahead of ECU.

I didn't say anything about trying to recreate the BCS ranking, just put the average of the computer rankings. For the record, if you drop the highest and lowest of the six computers Marshall would be further ahead of ECU. We are first in every one, you are second in one, third in two and fourth in three. As close as our human poll numbers are we will be ahead of you. I would say that you and CSU and Boise would be within a point or two of each other. Both Boise and CSU are ranked ahead of ECU in four of the six computers.

Actually I found a ranking put out by Colley Rankings that is as close as they can get to what the BCS rankings would look like this season. There is no Harris poll so they used the AP poll. Also a couple of the computer polls are using slightly different formulas than what the BCS required them to do…

1. Mississippi St 0.98549 0.99067 0.98581 0.98000 1 1 1 1 1 3 4 1
2. Florida St 0.95719 0.96867 0.97290 0.93000 2 2 2 2 4 5 13 3
3. Alabama 0.87387 0.86000 0.87161 0.89000 3 3 5 4 5 1 1 5
4. Auburn 0.86596 0.84467 0.82323 0.93000 4 4 3 5 2 4 2 2
5. Oregon 0.80150 0.79933 0.78516 0.82000 5 6 6 3 6 7 10 7
6. Mississippi 0.77280 0.73000 0.68839 0.90000 7 9 4 7 3 2 3 4
7. Notre Dame 0.73295 0.77400 0.75484 0.67000 6 7 7 8 7 15 14 9
8. Georgia 0.71189 0.71600 0.68968 0.73000 9 8 8 9 10 6 5 12
9. Michigan St 0.71090 0.72400 0.81871 0.59000 8 5 17 10 12 11 12 10
10. Kansas St 0.60720 0.62000 0.63161 0.57000 11 11 10 17 11 9 11 8
11. TCU 0.60287 0.68667 0.68194 0.44000 10 10 16 12 16 10 8 16
12. LSU 0.47541 0.38267 0.29355 0.75000 16 17 13 6 9 8 9 6
13. Arizona St 0.45801 0.44467 0.45935 0.47000 15 14 12 11 17 13 21 15
14. Ohio St 0.42925 0.45067 0.52710 0.31000 13 13 18 14 18 21 16 25
15. Baylor 0.41548 0.55933 0.54710 0.14000 12 12 27 16 25 14 7 22
16. Nebraska 0.38953 0.35667 0.40194 0.41000 17 16 15 13 8 17 18 13
17. Arizona 0.36555 0.44600 0.42065 0.23000 14 15 9 21 13 20 27 11
18. Utah 0.31075 0.34933 0.29290 0.29000 18 18 14 15 20 24 23 17
19. Oklahoma 0.22437 0.28667 0.28645 0.10000 19 20 22 24 24 12 6 24
20. Clemson 0.22427 0.17667 0.19613 0.30000 22 21 19 18 19 16 19 18
21. West Virginia 0.19325 0.25267 0.18710 0.14000 20 22 21 25 23 19 25 21
22. East Carolina 0.17768 0.24400 0.28903 0.00000 21 19 32 30 34 35 39 30
23. Marshall 0.15422 0.12267 0.14000 0.20000 23 23 20 23 14 27 34 14
24. UCLA 0.12990 0.07067 0.06903 0.25000 25 25 11 22 15 22 24 20
25. Duke 0.05571 0.08067 0.08645 0.00000 24 24 30 20 29 32 32 27

As you can see CSU, BSU, and UCF are no where to be found and ECU is actually one spot ahead of Marshall…..

http://www.colleyrankings.com/curBcsLike.html

(10-31-2014 08:48 PM)banker Wrote:  I didn't say anything about trying to recreate the BCS ranking, just put the average of the computer rankings. For the record, if you drop the highest and lowest of the six computers Marshall would be further ahead of ECU. We are first in every one, you are second in one, third in two and fourth in three. As close as our human poll numbers are we will be ahead of you. I would say that you and CSU and Boise would be within a point or two of each other. Both Boise and CSU are ranked ahead of ECU in four of the six computers.

Well what was the title of you post??? "If the BCS formula had lasted one more year"…It is clear what the intention of your post was, you were trying to imply that Marshall and all these other schools would have been ahead of ECU if they were still using the BCS this season. What I am seeing is ECU would very likely still be ahead of Marshall if we were still using the BCS this season and those other schools would not have been in the Top 25.

If the BCS system had been extended one more year, the American would have had one more year as an AQ conference.

(10-31-2014 08:53 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 08:48 PM)banker Wrote:  I didn't say anything about trying to recreate the BCS ranking, just put the average of the computer rankings. For the record, if you drop the highest and lowest of the six computers Marshall would be further ahead of ECU. We are first in every one, you are second in one, third in two and fourth in three. As close as our human poll numbers are we will be ahead of you. I would say that you and CSU and Boise would be within a point or two of each other. Both Boise and CSU are ranked ahead of ECU in four of the six computers.

Well what was the title of you post??? "If the BCS formula had lasted one more year"…So what I am seeing is ECU would very likely still be ahead of Marshall if we were still using the BCS this season.

It doesn't matter Marshall is super duper awesomer than everybody else.

What people like to forget about the BCS was the fact that the Polls carried a lot of weight and if you were not ranked in the Top 25 in both of those polls it was impossible to be ranked in the BCS Top 25 no matter how good your computer rankings were. Just goes to show how much the BCS really valued the computer rankings.

What I find pretty interesting is that the Playoff Committee's Poll looks a lot like this BCS like ranking that Colley Rankings put together….Makes you wonder!!!

(10-31-2014 08:56 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 08:53 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 08:48 PM)banker Wrote:  I didn't say anything about trying to recreate the BCS ranking, just put the average of the computer rankings. For the record, if you drop the highest and lowest of the six computers Marshall would be further ahead of ECU. We are first in every one, you are second in one, third in two and fourth in three. As close as our human poll numbers are we will be ahead of you. I would say that you and CSU and Boise would be within a point or two of each other. Both Boise and CSU are ranked ahead of ECU in four of the six computers.

Well what was the title of you post??? "If the BCS formula had lasted one more year"…So what I am seeing is ECU would very likely still be ahead of Marshall if we were still using the BCS this season.

It doesn't matter Marshall is super duper awesomer than everybody else.

No,but we are better than ECU. Watching these powerhouse AAC schools playing on High School Friday tells me CUSA is better than the AAC too. The American - the Friday Night Lights League.

(10-31-2014 09:14 PM)banker Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 08:56 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 08:53 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 08:48 PM)banker Wrote:  I didn't say anything about trying to recreate the BCS ranking, just put the average of the computer rankings. For the record, if you drop the highest and lowest of the six computers Marshall would be further ahead of ECU. We are first in every one, you are second in one, third in two and fourth in three. As close as our human poll numbers are we will be ahead of you. I would say that you and CSU and Boise would be within a point or two of each other. Both Boise and CSU are ranked ahead of ECU in four of the six computers.

Well what was the title of you post??? "If the BCS formula had lasted one more year"…So what I am seeing is ECU would very likely still be ahead of Marshall if we were still using the BCS this season.

It doesn't matter Marshall is super duper awesomer than everybody else.

No,but we are better than ECU. Watching these powerhouse AAC schools playing on High School Friday tells me CUSA is better than the AAC too. The American - the Friday Night Lights League.

That is easy to say…No you are not better than ECU. We would kick your tails this year. I say we would win by at least 2 touch downs!!!!

Once again you are losing a debate so you resort to the middle school name calling and and childish posts. It is just so easy with some you Marshall guys.

Seriously though…I think Marshall has a very good team. If we played no telling who would win but honestly I would love to play the game. Your turn to play on the road..I say we schedule if for December 13th, would love to settle this on the field.

ECU didn't look very good at all against UConn on TV

(10-31-2014 09:20 PM)winston70 Wrote:  ECU didn't look very good at all against UConn on TV

LOL little late, but Marshall really showed FAU.

(10-31-2014 09:14 PM)banker Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 08:56 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 08:53 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 08:48 PM)banker Wrote:  I didn't say anything about trying to recreate the BCS ranking, just put the average of the computer rankings. For the record, if you drop the highest and lowest of the six computers Marshall would be further ahead of ECU. We are first in every one, you are second in one, third in two and fourth in three. As close as our human poll numbers are we will be ahead of you. I would say that you and CSU and Boise would be within a point or two of each other. Both Boise and CSU are ranked ahead of ECU in four of the six computers.

Well what was the title of you post??? "If the BCS formula had lasted one more year"…So what I am seeing is ECU would very likely still be ahead of Marshall if we were still using the BCS this season.

It doesn't matter Marshall is super duper awesomer than everybody else.

No,but we are better than ECU. Watching these powerhouse AAC schools playing on High School Friday tells me CUSA is better than the AAC too. The American - the Friday Night Lights League.

Actually we rarely have games on Friday nights, we only have them this week because of Halloween. Think about how many guys are sitting on their couch watching TV in between bell rings. Beats 3:30 Saturday on some obscure Asian live stream.

(10-31-2014 09:20 PM)winston70 Wrote:  ECU didn't look very good at all against UConn on TV

And that proves what??? I agree it was not a "pretty" game…They did a good job of stopping some drives in the red zone and ECU did a good job of shooting ourselves in the foot a few times. Nowhere close to a quality performance by ECU. It happens…Northwestern State???

A lot of football left to be played…No doubt we will have to play much better than what we did against UCONN if we expect to win against Temple, UC, and UCF. It will be interesting to see how our guys respond tomorrow but honestly I would take 5 more just as ugly as the UCONN game. Just Win!!!

Temple shouldn't be a problem for you guys, UC could be, UCF definitely will. I think you guys finish 10-2.

Hey, you guys wanna go at it under the flagpole after school and settle it.

So glad to have a fresh topic to discuss for once...

(10-31-2014 11:28 PM)rook360 Wrote:  Hey, you guys wanna go at it under the flagpole after school and settle it.

Fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight…. I agree that this ECU vs Marshall deal is tiresome and annoying. Sorry, I just can not help myself. When I see something posted that is sooooooooooo false I have to respond.

Honestly all this talk is wasted time…Would not surprise me one bit to see ECU and Marshall both lose a game and someone like CSU or BSU step in and take the G5 spot. Could happen for ECU today…Playing at Temple in terrible weather in a NFL stadium with very few fans in the stands, sounds like a recipe for disaster if you are an ECU fan. Windy, rainy, and cold…Not exactly weather that the ECU offense normally excels in….Could be another sloppy game for the Pirates, just need to find a way to win.

(10-31-2014 08:49 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  Actually I found a ranking put out by Colley Rankings that is as close as they can get to what the BCS rankings would look like this season. There is no Harris poll so they used the AP poll. Also a couple of the computer polls are using slightly different formulas than what the BCS required them to do…

1. Mississippi St 0.98549 0.99067 0.98581 0.98000 1 1 1 1 1 3 4 1
2. Florida St 0.95719 0.96867 0.97290 0.93000 2 2 2 2 4 5 13 3
3. Alabama 0.87387 0.86000 0.87161 0.89000 3 3 5 4 5 1 1 5
4. Auburn 0.86596 0.84467 0.82323 0.93000 4 4 3 5 2 4 2 2
5. Oregon 0.80150 0.79933 0.78516 0.82000 5 6 6 3 6 7 10 7
6. Mississippi 0.77280 0.73000 0.68839 0.90000 7 9 4 7 3 2 3 4
7. Notre Dame 0.73295 0.77400 0.75484 0.67000 6 7 7 8 7 15 14 9
8. Georgia 0.71189 0.71600 0.68968 0.73000 9 8 8 9 10 6 5 12
9. Michigan St 0.71090 0.72400 0.81871 0.59000 8 5 17 10 12 11 12 10
10. Kansas St 0.60720 0.62000 0.63161 0.57000 11 11 10 17 11 9 11 8
11. TCU 0.60287 0.68667 0.68194 0.44000 10 10 16 12 16 10 8 16
12. LSU 0.47541 0.38267 0.29355 0.75000 16 17 13 6 9 8 9 6
13. Arizona St 0.45801 0.44467 0.45935 0.47000 15 14 12 11 17 13 21 15
14. Ohio St 0.42925 0.45067 0.52710 0.31000 13 13 18 14 18 21 16 25
15. Baylor 0.41548 0.55933 0.54710 0.14000 12 12 27 16 25 14 7 22
16. Nebraska 0.38953 0.35667 0.40194 0.41000 17 16 15 13 8 17 18 13
17. Arizona 0.36555 0.44600 0.42065 0.23000 14 15 9 21 13 20 27 11
18. Utah 0.31075 0.34933 0.29290 0.29000 18 18 14 15 20 24 23 17
19. Oklahoma 0.22437 0.28667 0.28645 0.10000 19 20 22 24 24 12 6 24
20. Clemson 0.22427 0.17667 0.19613 0.30000 22 21 19 18 19 16 19 18
21. West Virginia 0.19325 0.25267 0.18710 0.14000 20 22 21 25 23 19 25 21
22. East Carolina 0.17768 0.24400 0.28903 0.00000 21 19 32 30 34 35 39 30
23. Marshall 0.15422 0.12267 0.14000 0.20000 23 23 20 23 14 27 34 14
24. UCLA 0.12990 0.07067 0.06903 0.25000 25 25 11 22 15 22 24 20
25. Duke 0.05571 0.08067 0.08645 0.00000 24 24 30 20 29 32 32 27

As you can see CSU, BSU, and UCF are no where to be found and ECU is actually one spot ahead of Marshall…..

http://www.colleyrankings.com/curBcsLike.html

So basically you are saying it isn't remotely close to the old BCS poll.

(11-01-2014 08:02 AM)herdftblfan1 Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 08:49 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  Actually I found a ranking put out by Colley Rankings that is as close as they can get to what the BCS rankings would look like this season. There is no Harris poll so they used the AP poll. Also a couple of the computer polls are using slightly different formulas than what the BCS required them to do…

1. Mississippi St 0.98549 0.99067 0.98581 0.98000 1 1 1 1 1 3 4 1
2. Florida St 0.95719 0.96867 0.97290 0.93000 2 2 2 2 4 5 13 3
3. Alabama 0.87387 0.86000 0.87161 0.89000 3 3 5 4 5 1 1 5
4. Auburn 0.86596 0.84467 0.82323 0.93000 4 4 3 5 2 4 2 2
5. Oregon 0.80150 0.79933 0.78516 0.82000 5 6 6 3 6 7 10 7
6. Mississippi 0.77280 0.73000 0.68839 0.90000 7 9 4 7 3 2 3 4
7. Notre Dame 0.73295 0.77400 0.75484 0.67000 6 7 7 8 7 15 14 9
8. Georgia 0.71189 0.71600 0.68968 0.73000 9 8 8 9 10 6 5 12
9. Michigan St 0.71090 0.72400 0.81871 0.59000 8 5 17 10 12 11 12 10
10. Kansas St 0.60720 0.62000 0.63161 0.57000 11 11 10 17 11 9 11 8
11. TCU 0.60287 0.68667 0.68194 0.44000 10 10 16 12 16 10 8 16
12. LSU 0.47541 0.38267 0.29355 0.75000 16 17 13 6 9 8 9 6
13. Arizona St 0.45801 0.44467 0.45935 0.47000 15 14 12 11 17 13 21 15
14. Ohio St 0.42925 0.45067 0.52710 0.31000 13 13 18 14 18 21 16 25
15. Baylor 0.41548 0.55933 0.54710 0.14000 12 12 27 16 25 14 7 22
16. Nebraska 0.38953 0.35667 0.40194 0.41000 17 16 15 13 8 17 18 13
17. Arizona 0.36555 0.44600 0.42065 0.23000 14 15 9 21 13 20 27 11
18. Utah 0.31075 0.34933 0.29290 0.29000 18 18 14 15 20 24 23 17
19. Oklahoma 0.22437 0.28667 0.28645 0.10000 19 20 22 24 24 12 6 24
20. Clemson 0.22427 0.17667 0.19613 0.30000 22 21 19 18 19 16 19 18
21. West Virginia 0.19325 0.25267 0.18710 0.14000 20 22 21 25 23 19 25 21
22. East Carolina 0.17768 0.24400 0.28903 0.00000 21 19 32 30 34 35 39 30
23. Marshall 0.15422 0.12267 0.14000 0.20000 23 23 20 23 14 27 34 14
24. UCLA 0.12990 0.07067 0.06903 0.25000 25 25 11 22 15 22 24 20
25. Duke 0.05571 0.08067 0.08645 0.00000 24 24 30 20 29 32 32 27

As you can see CSU, BSU, and UCF are no where to be found and ECU is actually one spot ahead of Marshall…..

http://www.colleyrankings.com/curBcsLike.html

So basically you are saying it isn't remotely close to the old BCS poll.

No, I never said that. The AP poll and the Harris Poll were usually pretty close in their rankings. Also the two computer rankings that changed their formula from what the BCS required from them was basically putting MOV back into their numbers which probably helps Marshall a lot in this ranking.

What I said was it was as close as they could get….Probably pretty close to what the BCS rankings would have looked like….But one thing is for sure, it is a hell of a lot closer to what the BCS Rankings would have looked like than that mess Banker posted to start this thread. I just responded with this information in response to the his initial post about the BCS formula and his implications that ECU would have been behind several schools.

Really makes no difference to me…I am not the one grasping for straws to find a way to legitimize my team. We are ranked in the Coaches Poll, AP Poll, and the Playoff Committee Poll…. Now we have to find a way to win out with some difficult teams on our remaining schedule. We control our destiny, but it will not be easy.