(10-31-2014 09:52 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 08:41 AM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 07:22 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 07:20 AM)TampaKnight Wrote:  Last home game of the season will be sold out for ECU, ESPECIALLY against us.

No easy path to the title.

The way it should be....heh?


Of course this could all be a moot point based on the outcome of a certain Black Friday game....

I think if that's our only loss, we'd still be playing for co-champions against ECU.

No, we'd own the tie-breaker

There are no tie-breakers. You would be co-champions. You could claim you beat UCF so you deserve the G5 spot but that's up to the committee.

(10-31-2014 09:55 AM)UHDC Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 09:52 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 08:41 AM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 07:22 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 07:20 AM)TampaKnight Wrote:  Last home game of the season will be sold out for ECU, ESPECIALLY against us.

No easy path to the title.

The way it should be....heh?


Of course this could all be a moot point based on the outcome of a certain Black Friday game....

I think if that's our only loss, we'd still be playing for co-champions against ECU.

No, we'd own the tie-breaker

There are no tie-breakers. You would be co-champions. You could claim you beat UCF so you deserve the G5 spot but that's up to the committee.

While they'd be co-champs for the purposes of a banner, the thing that matters is who'd be the champs for the purposes of the Access Bowl. That'd come down to a tie-breaker, but I don't know how ECU figures they'd be ahead with a H2H loss. ECU would need Memphis to stay 1-loss to get into a 3-way tiebreak that might favor them, but I don't know what those criteria are.

(10-31-2014 09:59 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 09:55 AM)UHDC Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 09:52 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 08:41 AM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 07:22 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  The way it should be....heh?


Of course this could all be a moot point based on the outcome of a certain Black Friday game....

I think if that's our only loss, we'd still be playing for co-champions against ECU.

No, we'd own the tie-breaker

There are no tie-breakers. You would be co-champions. You could claim you beat UCF so you deserve the G5 spot but that's up to the committee.

While they'd be co-champs for the purposes of a banner, the thing that matters is who'd be the champs for the purposes of the Access Bowl. That'd come down to a tie-breaker, but I don't know how ECU figures they'd be ahead with a H2H loss. ECU would need Memphis to stay 1-loss to get into a 3-way tiebreak that might favor them, but I don't know what those criteria are.

I think the idea was UCF's only loss was to ECU, ECU had stumbled once along the way...then both ECU and UCF were fighting for co-champions. But I can see where you were thinking UCF's only loss was to USF and ECU's to UCF. That would be tough as ECU's loss would have been to much tougher team...UCF's loss to a weaker team. If there are no tie-breakers, the committee decides it and I would favor the H2H over the more reasonable loss.

(10-31-2014 10:24 AM)apex_pirate Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 09:59 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 09:55 AM)UHDC Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 09:52 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 08:41 AM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  I think if that's our only loss, we'd still be playing for co-champions against ECU.

No, we'd own the tie-breaker

There are no tie-breakers. You would be co-champions. You could claim you beat UCF so you deserve the G5 spot but that's up to the committee.

While they'd be co-champs for the purposes of a banner, the thing that matters is who'd be the champs for the purposes of the Access Bowl. That'd come down to a tie-breaker, but I don't know how ECU figures they'd be ahead with a H2H loss. ECU would need Memphis to stay 1-loss to get into a 3-way tiebreak that might favor them, but I don't know what those criteria are.

I think the idea was UCF's only loss was to ECU, ECU had stumbled once along the way...then both ECU and UCF were fighting for co-champions. But I can see where you were thinking UCF's only loss was to USF and ECU's to UCF. That would be tough as ECU's loss would have been to much tougher team...UCF's loss to a weaker team. If there are no tie-breakers, the committee decides it and I would favor the H2H over the more reasonable loss.

If UCF is 6-1 and ECU is 7-0 then ECU would be playing for an outright championship while UCF would be playing for a co-championship. UCF would have the head to head tie-breaker if we won, but both teams would have 1 loss. It would be like in 2012 when UCF beat ECU but lost to Tulsa. UCF went to the CUSA title game but both teams had one conference loss so ECU claimed to be co-division champs.

There's a very strong possibility that UCF and ECU both lose a game while Memphis, Houston, or Cincy wins out and we end up with 3+ co-champs.

(10-31-2014 10:40 AM)MechaKnight Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 10:24 AM)apex_pirate Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 09:59 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 09:55 AM)UHDC Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 09:52 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  No, we'd own the tie-breaker

There are no tie-breakers. You would be co-champions. You could claim you beat UCF so you deserve the G5 spot but that's up to the committee.

While they'd be co-champs for the purposes of a banner, the thing that matters is who'd be the champs for the purposes of the Access Bowl. That'd come down to a tie-breaker, but I don't know how ECU figures they'd be ahead with a H2H loss. ECU would need Memphis to stay 1-loss to get into a 3-way tiebreak that might favor them, but I don't know what those criteria are.

I think the idea was UCF's only loss was to ECU, ECU had stumbled once along the way...then both ECU and UCF were fighting for co-champions. But I can see where you were thinking UCF's only loss was to USF and ECU's to UCF. That would be tough as ECU's loss would have been to much tougher team...UCF's loss to a weaker team. If there are no tie-breakers, the committee decides it and I would favor the H2H over the more reasonable loss.

If UCF is 6-1 and ECU is 7-0 then ECU would be playing for an outright championship while UCF would be playing for a co-championship. UCF would have the head to head tie-breaker if we won, but both teams would have 1 loss. It would be like in 2012 when UCF beat ECU but lost to Tulsa. UCF went to the CUSA title game but both teams had one conference loss so ECU claimed to be co-division champs.

There's a very strong possibility that UCF and ECU both lose a game while Memphis, Houston, or Cincy wins out and we end up with 3+ co-champs.

That would be a Big East dejavu and most likely a PR disaster as it was for the Big East when UConn went to the BCS Bowl. Best case scenario is two undefeateds going into Dec 4th with Memphis, Houston and Cincy winning out. Even more granular would be that same result with ECU winning. Not sure it all unfolds that way though.

(10-31-2014 10:24 AM)apex_pirate Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 09:59 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 09:55 AM)UHDC Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 09:52 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 08:41 AM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  I think if that's our only loss, we'd still be playing for co-champions against ECU.

No, we'd own the tie-breaker

There are no tie-breakers. You would be co-champions. You could claim you beat UCF so you deserve the G5 spot but that's up to the committee.

While they'd be co-champs for the purposes of a banner, the thing that matters is who'd be the champs for the purposes of the Access Bowl. That'd come down to a tie-breaker, but I don't know how ECU figures they'd be ahead with a H2H loss. ECU would need Memphis to stay 1-loss to get into a 3-way tiebreak that might favor them, but I don't know what those criteria are.

I think the idea was UCF's only loss was to ECU, ECU had stumbled once along the way...then both ECU and UCF were fighting for co-champions. But I can see where you were thinking UCF's only loss was to USF and ECU's to UCF. That would be tough as ECU's loss would have been to much tougher team...UCF's loss to a weaker team. If there are no tie-breakers, the committee decides it and I would favor the H2H over the more reasonable loss.

Ah, my understanding was that UCF dropped the USF game then beat ECU.