(10-28-2014 07:28 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 07:17 PM)KnightFanDave Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 06:50 PM)pesik Wrote:  this rankings were good and bad...

good in the fact that marshall is likely the 3rd Ranked G5 probably behind CSU.. schedule means something to them

bad news making the playoffs will almost be impossible..to think they are punishing ND because of its schedule a schedule better than any we will ever have ... we'd likely need 2 or 3 years of undefeated and pure dominance on monster OOC SOS to have a tiny chance

I don't think so. If we had a team that actually deserved to go, I think they could have a shot. If ECU beat South Carolina (probably by at least 2 scores since the cocks have not inspired since) and have played better games against the conference opponents, they could actually be considered... Problem is, they didn't beat S. Car and they're not blowing out the 'bad' teams on their schedule. They're simply not good enough.

I'll get upset when I legitimately believe the AAC has a team that could compete for a national championship and the CFP poll proves incapable of putting said deserving non P5 team in the top 4. Until then, we have nothing to really whine about lol

i dont think ECU would have had a shot even if they beat SC...
theyd probably be ranked around 15 or 16 with too much ground to catch up ..vt/unc/sc are great teams in comparison to marshall's joke schedule but arent that impressive in comparison the the top p5...

and ecu is coming from nowhere, no one actually knows how good they are (in comparison to the elite) and will not be given the benefit of the doubt

a team that was undefeated the year before returning a ton of star players on SMU's schedule maybe.. but ecu never had a shot with their schedule not living up to hype and reputation

Oh, I agree with that. ECU would really need to be a different team. I'm just saying their schedule would hold them back a little, but not exclude them (imo of course). They would have to blow out all of their opponents (including SC). Their schedule is weaker for sure, but at least some teams you can compare apples to apples against other top 25 teams.

Whereas Marshall, no matter what the score, its apples and oranges. You could never put that team in contention.

I guess my point was more like our AAC schedules shouldn't exclude us as long as we all keep scheduling good OOC opponents. Not that today's ECU team would remotely deserve to go.

(10-28-2014 08:06 PM)Purplehook Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 08:03 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 07:31 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 06:48 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 06:37 PM)MarshallHerdFanz Wrote:  But you won't win out.

Then Colorado State would get it, because they are also 6-1 with two P5 wins.

For the hundredth time, Csu can only get it if Boise loses.

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Yes we realize that. The assumption in mention Colorado State is that Boise State will lose again.

Educate me. If there was an others "receiving votes category" Colorado St. should be ranked ahead of Boise for only having one loss compared to two for Boise. Even if Boise is the MWC champ if CSU wins out can't they still be ranked higher in this poll????

Yes they can and probably are, that's why they say highest ranked CHAMPION, not team.

I hope ECU wins out and secures the Access Bowl spot. They are in a good position based on their CFP result tonight.

(10-28-2014 07:58 PM)k-vegasbuc Wrote:  Well this poll is very encouraging that they are not going to just say winning trumps all regardless of who you play. This will encourage G-5 teams in the future to continue to schedule 2-3 P-5 teams a year.

It's also showing that the P5 teams can't get by scheduling us. If anything, it's going to make it harder for G5 teams to get p5 matchups.


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(10-28-2014 08:13 PM)MagicKnightmare Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 07:58 PM)k-vegasbuc Wrote:  Well this poll is very encouraging that they are not going to just say winning trumps all regardless of who you play. This will encourage G-5 teams in the future to continue to schedule 2-3 P-5 teams a year.

It's also showing that the P5 teams can't get by scheduling us. If anything, it's going to make it harder for G5 teams to get p5 matchups.


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I agree, it will be harder to do and will probably require more 2 for 1 type deals but it's clearly imperative that we have to get these teams scheduled. Thankfully for ECU we have several lined up for the next several years.

(10-28-2014 08:06 PM)Purplehook Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 08:03 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 07:31 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 06:48 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 06:37 PM)MarshallHerdFanz Wrote:  But you won't win out.

Then Colorado State would get it, because they are also 6-1 with two P5 wins.

For the hundredth time, Csu can only get it if Boise loses.

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Yes we realize that. The assumption in mention Colorado State is that Boise State will lose again.

Educate me. If there was an others "receiving votes category" Colorado St. should be ranked ahead of Boise for only having one loss compared to two for Boise. Even if Boise is the MWC champ if CSU wins out can't they still be ranked higher in this poll????

No. They can't be champions of the mwc because Boise beat them


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(10-28-2014 08:13 PM)MagicKnightmare Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 07:58 PM)k-vegasbuc Wrote:  Well this poll is very encouraging that they are not going to just say winning trumps all regardless of who you play. This will encourage G-5 teams in the future to continue to schedule 2-3 P-5 teams a year.

It's also showing that the P5 teams can't get by scheduling us. If anything, it's going to make it harder for G5 teams to get p5 matchups.


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For some yes, but for us (AAC) I say no. ECU is ranked with a lose so ECU and the AAC is getting more respect than CUSA, MAC, MWC or the belt. So playing ECU, UCF, SMU, or any other AAC will be seen as better than any school from the other 4. It most likely will be harder to get those home and homes, but the belt, MAC, most of the MWC and CUSA are looking head long into one and dones.

They may beat their chest about only playing each other in press conferences, but scheduling says something different. NSCU just lined up 8 years of opening with a FCS team. Outside of 20-30 teams most can't do it and won't.

(10-28-2014 08:18 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 08:06 PM)Purplehook Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 08:03 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 07:31 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 06:48 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Then Colorado State would get it, because they are also 6-1 with two P5 wins.

For the hundredth time, Csu can only get it if Boise loses.

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Yes we realize that. The assumption in mention Colorado State is that Boise State will lose again.

Educate me. If there was an others "receiving votes category" Colorado St. should be ranked ahead of Boise for only having one loss compared to two for Boise. Even if Boise is the MWC champ if CSU wins out can't they still be ranked higher in this poll????

No. They can't be champions of the mwc because Boise beat them


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I think he was asking is CSU could be ranked higher if they don't win the MWC. That answer is yes, but they could not get the G5 slot.

(10-28-2014 08:02 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 06:37 PM)MarshallHerdFanz Wrote:  But you won't win out.

Wrong board bubba.

Warning......warning......marshall troll......do not reply.....let him go away and give him negative points for coming on aac board with such trash talking

(10-28-2014 08:24 PM)r2pirate Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 08:02 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 06:37 PM)MarshallHerdFanz Wrote:  But you won't win out.

Wrong board bubba.

Warning......warning......marshall troll......do not reply.....let him go away and give him negative points for coming on aac board with such trash talking

We get it.

What a moment! ECU is the first ever team outside of the P5 to be ranked in the College Football Playoff Top 25 Poll. The only one too. Yes, just please let me have this moment. The "only" part will end soon and even being in the poll could end soon. So, I'm just enjoying this "1st" for ECU while it lasts. At least I didn't start a new thread.

Here's to both ECU and UCF winning out!

(10-28-2014 07:59 PM)NothingButKnight Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 07:50 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  That overall Poll sucks but I am glad that ECU is the highest ranked... but I will gurantee to you that the BS that is going on in that poll will lead to expansion of the playoff much quicker.

I grew up in Indiana and have been a Notre Dame fan for years until I went to USF and then I became a fan of both. When ND only has 1 loss, on the road to the #2 team in the nation and then gets ranked as 10th? Total BS. IF they win out and dont make the playoff, you will see expansion happen much quicker.

They are looking for quality wins, and Notre Dame has zero.

I tend to see the Stanford game as a quality win.... they still have a few more big games coming up. If they win out and arent in the top 4 then Ill have a real issue with it.

(10-28-2014 08:41 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 07:59 PM)NothingButKnight Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 07:50 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  That overall Poll sucks but I am glad that ECU is the highest ranked... but I will gurantee to you that the BS that is going on in that poll will lead to expansion of the playoff much quicker.

I grew up in Indiana and have been a Notre Dame fan for years until I went to USF and then I became a fan of both. When ND only has 1 loss, on the road to the #2 team in the nation and then gets ranked as 10th? Total BS. IF they win out and dont make the playoff, you will see expansion happen much quicker.

They are looking for quality wins, and Notre Dame has zero.

I tend to see the Stanford game as a quality win.... they still have a few more big games coming up. If they win out and arent in the top 4 then Ill have a real issue with it.

It's no consolation...but if the final poll ended as it was tonight, ECU would be playing Notre Dame in the Peach.

(10-28-2014 08:21 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 08:13 PM)MagicKnightmare Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 07:58 PM)k-vegasbuc Wrote:  Well this poll is very encouraging that they are not going to just say winning trumps all regardless of who you play. This will encourage G-5 teams in the future to continue to schedule 2-3 P-5 teams a year.

It's also showing that the P5 teams can't get by scheduling us. If anything, it's going to make it harder for G5 teams to get p5 matchups.


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For some yes, but for us (AAC) I say no. ECU is ranked with a lose so ECU and the AAC is getting more respect than CUSA, MAC, MWC or the belt. So playing ECU, UCF, SMU, or any other AAC will be seen as better than any school from the other 4. It most likely will be harder to get those home and homes, but the belt, MAC, most of the MWC and CUSA are looking head long into one and dones.

They may beat their chest about only playing each other in press conferences, but scheduling says something different. NSCU just lined up 8 years of opening with a FCS team. Outside of 20-30 teams most can't do it and won't.

ECU is getting more respect because of the 2 P5 wins. I really doubt it has anything to do with conference play because ECU hasn't played anyone significant in the American yet.

I do find it's pretty insulting to the non P5 conferences though. A ranking of only #23 for ECU is pretty disrespectful.

Congrats on the ranking guys.

(10-28-2014 09:03 PM)Shrack Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 08:21 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 08:13 PM)MagicKnightmare Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 07:58 PM)k-vegasbuc Wrote:  Well this poll is very encouraging that they are not going to just say winning trumps all regardless of who you play. This will encourage G-5 teams in the future to continue to schedule 2-3 P-5 teams a year.

It's also showing that the P5 teams can't get by scheduling us. If anything, it's going to make it harder for G5 teams to get p5 matchups.


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For some yes, but for us (AAC) I say no. ECU is ranked with a lose so ECU and the AAC is getting more respect than CUSA, MAC, MWC or the belt. So playing ECU, UCF, SMU, or any other AAC will be seen as better than any school from the other 4. It most likely will be harder to get those home and homes, but the belt, MAC, most of the MWC and CUSA are looking head long into one and dones.

They may beat their chest about only playing each other in press conferences, but scheduling says something different. NSCU just lined up 8 years of opening with a FCS team. Outside of 20-30 teams most can't do it and won't.

ECU is getting more respect because of the 2 P5 wins. I really doubt it has anything to do with conference play because ECU hasn't played anyone significant in the American yet.

I do find it's pretty insulting to the non P5 conferences though. A ranking of only #23 for ECU is pretty disrespectful.

Congrats on the ranking guys.

What have G5 leagues done to be respected? G5 schools get their azzes kicked in almost every head to head game against P5 opponents; so why should G5 teams be respected? And why should a G5 opponent that only plays G5 opponents be considered a good team? The #23 ranking for ECU seems right, because the P5's that they have beaten have subsequently struggled.

(10-28-2014 09:03 PM)Shrack Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 08:21 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 08:13 PM)MagicKnightmare Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 07:58 PM)k-vegasbuc Wrote:  Well this poll is very encouraging that they are not going to just say winning trumps all regardless of who you play. This will encourage G-5 teams in the future to continue to schedule 2-3 P-5 teams a year.

It's also showing that the P5 teams can't get by scheduling us. If anything, it's going to make it harder for G5 teams to get p5 matchups.


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For some yes, but for us (AAC) I say no. ECU is ranked with a lose so ECU and the AAC is getting more respect than CUSA, MAC, MWC or the belt. So playing ECU, UCF, SMU, or any other AAC will be seen as better than any school from the other 4. It most likely will be harder to get those home and homes, but the belt, MAC, most of the MWC and CUSA are looking head long into one and dones.

They may beat their chest about only playing each other in press conferences, but scheduling says something different. NSCU just lined up 8 years of opening with a FCS team. Outside of 20-30 teams most can't do it and won't.

ECU is getting more respect because of the 2 P5 wins. I really doubt it has anything to do with conference play because ECU hasn't played anyone significant in the American yet.

I do find it's pretty insulting to the non P5 conferences though. A ranking of only #23 for ECU is pretty disrespectful.

Congrats on the ranking guys.

It is, but not unexpected, at least for me. Nothing new.

(10-28-2014 08:27 PM)airbornepirate Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 08:24 PM)r2pirate Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 08:02 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 06:37 PM)MarshallHerdFanz Wrote:  But you won't win out.

Wrong board bubba.

Warning......warning......marshall troll......do not reply.....let him go away and give him negative points for coming on aac board with such trash talking

We get it.

That clown is too predictable.

23 is about right. The committee did a fine job of balancing SOS and wins. The fact that Duke got cred say a lot in this. They are having a fine season and have beaten 5 teams better than anyone Marshall has played.

(10-28-2014 09:13 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 09:03 PM)Shrack Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 08:21 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 08:13 PM)MagicKnightmare Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 07:58 PM)k-vegasbuc Wrote:  Well this poll is very encouraging that they are not going to just say winning trumps all regardless of who you play. This will encourage G-5 teams in the future to continue to schedule 2-3 P-5 teams a year.

It's also showing that the P5 teams can't get by scheduling us. If anything, it's going to make it harder for G5 teams to get p5 matchups.


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For some yes, but for us (AAC) I say no. ECU is ranked with a lose so ECU and the AAC is getting more respect than CUSA, MAC, MWC or the belt. So playing ECU, UCF, SMU, or any other AAC will be seen as better than any school from the other 4. It most likely will be harder to get those home and homes, but the belt, MAC, most of the MWC and CUSA are looking head long into one and dones.

They may beat their chest about only playing each other in press conferences, but scheduling says something different. NSCU just lined up 8 years of opening with a FCS team. Outside of 20-30 teams most can't do it and won't.

ECU is getting more respect because of the 2 P5 wins. I really doubt it has anything to do with conference play because ECU hasn't played anyone significant in the American yet.

I do find it's pretty insulting to the non P5 conferences though. A ranking of only #23 for ECU is pretty disrespectful.

Congrats on the ranking guys.

What have G5 leagues done to be respected? G5 schools get their azzes kicked in almost every head to head game against P5 opponents; so why should G5 teams be respected? And why should a G5 opponent that only plays G5 opponents be considered a good team? The #23 ranking for ECU seems right, because the P5's that they have beaten have subsequently struggled.

It's pretty easy to get your ass kicked always playing on the road. Almost every team in CFB has a losing record playing on the road. Obviously the P5 in general is better (more money, better facilities, high paid coaches with boosters paying off their 3 million dollar houses, etc), but the win ratio is as bad as it is because most P5 teams refuse to play on the road.

It really feels like they wouldn't have ranked any G5 team if they could have gotten away with it.

(10-28-2014 06:37 PM)MarshallHerdFanz Wrote:  But you won't win out.

Man...lots of butthurt over this. Calm down dude. Your are embarrassing your self.