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(10-28-2014 12:31 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 10:17 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  USF had a 7'3" 315 Lb guy... great kid but never really developed into anything. He transfered last year when it became evident he wasnt gonna get a ton of palying time.

Most of the time the bigger guys just dont work out the kinks. The taller they are the rarer it is.

Did Baylor, Georgetown, etc, offer that kid? Big difference.

Exactly....Ucf had Kumba years ago at 7'4 but couldn't move very well. Big difference when you're recruited by baylor, FL state, wake forest, Georgetown, Ga Tech, etc. They don't want to waste scholarships at these schools.
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(10-28-2014 01:40 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 12:31 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 10:17 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  USF had a 7'3" 315 Lb guy... great kid but never really developed into anything. He transfered last year when it became evident he wasnt gonna get a ton of palying time.

Most of the time the bigger guys just dont work out the kinks. The taller they are the rarer it is.

Did Baylor, Georgetown, etc, offer that kid? Big difference.

Exactly....Ucf had Kumba years ago at 7'4 but couldn't move very well. Big difference when you're recruited by baylor, FL state, wake forest, Georgetown, Ga Tech, etc. They don't want to waste scholarships at these schools.

It's a solid signing no matter the outcome, anyone who disagrees is a jerk.
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Kuba was a 100% project gamble that UCF took to see if it could pay off. This was back in 2008. We were his only offer coming out of Poland and virtually no one else wanted to offer him.

On the other hand, Fall has standing offers from Baylor, Georgetown, Georgia Tech, Kansas State, Purdue, Tennessee, Texas Tech, Wake Forest, and Xavier.

To even compare the two is completely ridiculous.

Fall is a big prospect and UCF just landed a big time pick up.
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(10-28-2014 01:43 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 01:40 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 12:31 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 10:17 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  USF had a 7'3" 315 Lb guy... great kid but never really developed into anything. He transfered last year when it became evident he wasnt gonna get a ton of palying time.

Most of the time the bigger guys just dont work out the kinks. The taller they are the rarer it is.

Did Baylor, Georgetown, etc, offer that kid? Big difference.

Exactly....Ucf had Kumba years ago at 7'4 but couldn't move very well. Big difference when you're recruited by baylor, FL state, wake forest, Georgetown, Ga Tech, etc. They don't want to waste scholarships at these schools.

It's a solid signing no matter the outcome, anyone who disagrees is a jerk.

for the record, I never said it wasnt a good signing. Just that history has shown us that very few REALLY tall kids do work out. The injury rate is really high.
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(10-28-2014 01:47 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 01:43 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 01:40 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 12:31 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 10:17 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  USF had a 7'3" 315 Lb guy... great kid but never really developed into anything. He transfered last year when it became evident he wasnt gonna get a ton of palying time.

Most of the time the bigger guys just dont work out the kinks. The taller they are the rarer it is.

Did Baylor, Georgetown, etc, offer that kid? Big difference.

Exactly....Ucf had Kumba years ago at 7'4 but couldn't move very well. Big difference when you're recruited by baylor, FL state, wake forest, Georgetown, Ga Tech, etc. They don't want to waste scholarships at these schools.

It's a solid signing no matter the outcome, anyone who disagrees is a jerk.

for the record, I never said it wasnt a good signing. Just that history has shown us that very few REALLY tall kids do work out. The injury rate is really high.

As pros yes, as effective college players who can defend and rebound for 25 minutes a night, I'd say more than you may realize.
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Donnie has to work on his conditioning. Watched his team in the Peach Jam against Team Penny and he doesn't get up the court very good. Teams will push tempo with him on the court to wear him down. UCF will have to become a methodical team on offense if they want to use him properly also.
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I find it funny that people are quoting my post when I never said that he was a bad signing or wasnt going to be good. If you look at the history of really tall centers, they typically dont work out. VERY few are effective. their conditioning typically isnt great. You end up with joint and back issues. For UCFs sake, I hope the kid does well... and he better get that conditioning up cause now that USF has Coach O, well be running up tempo.



btw... this is who is going to be running Point for USF next year. Roddy Peters.. a transfer from Maryland
http://247sports.com/Player/Roddy-Peters...tion=12575
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(10-28-2014 03:00 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  I find it funny that people are quoting my post when I never said that he was a bad signing or wasnt going to be good. If you look at the history of really tall centers, they typically dont work out. VERY few are effective. their conditioning typically isnt great. You end up with joint and back issues. For UCFs sake, I hope the kid does well... and he better get that conditioning up cause now that USF has Coach O, well be running up tempo.



btw... this is who is going to be running Point for USF next year. Roddy Peters.. a transfer from Maryland
http://247sports.com/Player/Roddy-Peters...tion=12575

Sorry, I wasn't arguing with you; I was merely agreeing with BEH. In fact I'll delete my comment as it relates to your post. No problem.
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(10-28-2014 03:00 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  I find it funny that people are quoting my post when I never said that he was a bad signing or wasnt going to be good. If you look at the history of really tall centers, they typically dont work out. VERY few are effective. their conditioning typically isnt great. You end up with joint and back issues. For UCFs sake, I hope the kid does well... and he better get that conditioning up cause now that USF has Coach O, well be running up tempo.



btw... this is who is going to be running Point for USF next year. Roddy Peters.. a transfer from Maryland
http://247sports.com/Player/Roddy-Peters...tion=12575

I find it also funny that usf fans have to crash this thread about how it won't work out. I guess you're smarter than Georgetown basketball coaches.

And who cares about the espn 4 star from 2013 class? That ranking means nothing today. He wasn't a factor obviously at Maryland with 2 points per game and likely had talent in front of him. Don't know but it doesn't matter with the topic.
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(10-28-2014 03:27 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 03:00 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  I find it funny that people are quoting my post when I never said that he was a bad signing or wasnt going to be good. If you look at the history of really tall centers, they typically dont work out. VERY few are effective. their conditioning typically isnt great. You end up with joint and back issues. For UCFs sake, I hope the kid does well... and he better get that conditioning up cause now that USF has Coach O, well be running up tempo.



btw... this is who is going to be running Point for USF next year. Roddy Peters.. a transfer from Maryland
http://247sports.com/Player/Roddy-Peters...tion=12575

I find it also funny that usf fans have to crash this thread about how it won't work out. I guess you're smarter than Georgetown basketball coaches.

And who cares about the espn 4 star from 2013 class? That ranking means nothing today. He wasn't a factor obviously at Maryland with 2 points per game and likely had talent in front of him. Don't know but it doesn't matter with the topic.


Nowhere as funny as your post that sent this thread spiraling down a laugh track....

"Donnie Jones! Recruits want to play for him.

We have a team in 2015-16 season that is power quality team. Pretty much our team will be stacked with players. No more easy wins against ucf!"

For the record, my,point still stands where a big lumbering guy like this doesn't run the floor well. So unless Jones is going to change the offense to a walk up the floor type of scheme....folks should hold off with "power quality team" comments.

Thanks for the laughs...
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(10-28-2014 04:18 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 03:27 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 03:00 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  I find it funny that people are quoting my post when I never said that he was a bad signing or wasnt going to be good. If you look at the history of really tall centers, they typically dont work out. VERY few are effective. their conditioning typically isnt great. You end up with joint and back issues. For UCFs sake, I hope the kid does well... and he better get that conditioning up cause now that USF has Coach O, well be running up tempo.



btw... this is who is going to be running Point for USF next year. Roddy Peters.. a transfer from Maryland
http://247sports.com/Player/Roddy-Peters...tion=12575

I find it also funny that usf fans have to crash this thread about how it won't work out. I guess you're smarter than Georgetown basketball coaches.

And who cares about the espn 4 star from 2013 class? That ranking means nothing today. He wasn't a factor obviously at Maryland with 2 points per game and likely had talent in front of him. Don't know but it doesn't matter with the topic.


Nowhere as funny as your post that sent this thread spiraling down a laugh track....

"Donnie Jones! Recruits want to play for him.

We have a team in 2015-16 season that is power quality team. Pretty much our team will be stacked with players. No more easy wins against ucf!"

For the record, my,point still stands where a big lumbering guy like this doesn't run the floor well. So unless Jones is going to change the offense to a walk up the floor type of scheme....folks should hold off with "power quality team" comments.

Thanks for the laughs...

Maybe your team will decent at some point in the near future where you don't have to put down others. If usf has many more horrible seasons you might be alone at RJS. Get full access to the ship though. That is a plus.

and I'll add you to the usf list that is smarter than the coaches at Georgetown, Xavier, Baylor, FL State, etc. Glad you have that background.
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FFS. Always the same thing with the same USF fans.
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Manute Bol played on plenty of up tempo teams with Run TMC. He even shot the occasional 3. Who know's what Donnie has in mind.

Donnie Jones... Don Nelson...
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Just watched some video of this kid. First impression is that he will likely never see more than 10 minutes per game at any point in his career, and that might be a stretch. Like most players over 7' 2", his footwork is absolutely awful and he runs and moves like a giraffe. He is far too slow for the high D-1 game. He also has another bad habit that is common in guys his size, and that is bringing the ball to his waist every single time he touches it on offense. Watched several videos, and not once did he receive a pass or get a rebound and not immediately drop his hands to his waist. That is a habit that can be very difficult to break a kid out of. Great pickup when it comes to the PR side of things. Not such a great addition on the court.
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(10-28-2014 06:50 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  FFS. Always the same thing with the same USF fans.

Not my problem if KNIGHTTIME isn't mature enough to have a an actual conversation.

I neither bashed the kid or UCF, unfortunately this chic either has poor reading comprehension skills or has the emotional intelligence of a five year old.

Whatever...same old UCF fans with their delusional selective memory....
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(10-28-2014 04:24 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 04:18 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 03:27 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 03:00 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  I find it funny that people are quoting my post when I never said that he was a bad signing or wasnt going to be good. If you look at the history of really tall centers, they typically dont work out. VERY few are effective. their conditioning typically isnt great. You end up with joint and back issues. For UCFs sake, I hope the kid does well... and he better get that conditioning up cause now that USF has Coach O, well be running up tempo.



btw... this is who is going to be running Point for USF next year. Roddy Peters.. a transfer from Maryland
http://247sports.com/Player/Roddy-Peters...tion=12575

I find it also funny that usf fans have to crash this thread about how it won't work out. I guess you're smarter than Georgetown basketball coaches.

And who cares about the espn 4 star from 2013 class? That ranking means nothing today. He wasn't a factor obviously at Maryland with 2 points per game and likely had talent in front of him. Don't know but it doesn't matter with the topic.


Nowhere as funny as your post that sent this thread spiraling down a laugh track....

"Donnie Jones! Recruits want to play for him.

We have a team in 2015-16 season that is power quality team. Pretty much our team will be stacked with players. No more easy wins against ucf!"

For the record, my,point still stands where a big lumbering guy like this doesn't run the floor well. So unless Jones is going to change the offense to a walk up the floor type of scheme....folks should hold off with "power quality team" comments.

Thanks for the laughs...

Maybe your team will decent at some point in the near future where you don't have to put down others. If usf has many more horrible seasons you might be alone at RJS. Get full access to the ship though. That is a plus.

and I'll add you to the usf list that is smarter than the coaches at Georgetown, Xavier, Baylor, FL State, etc. Glad you have that background.

WTF is your problem? Show me where "I put down others"?

I simply disagreed with the impact of Jordan on your program and questioned how a plodding big man fits in Jones up tempo style. You obviously are incapable of carrying out an adult conversation so ....there is nothing much left to say.

Look at my first post #14 and look at the cheap shot you took in your post #27. You obviously are the one with problem....and incapable of anything else but smack.
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(10-28-2014 07:54 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 06:50 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  FFS. Always the same thing with the same USF fans.

Not my problem if KNIGHTTIME isn't mature enough to have a an actual conversation.

I neither bashed the kid or UCF, unfortunately this chic either has poor reading comprehension skills or has the emotional intelligence of a five year old.

Whatever...same old UCF fans with their delusional rankings.

You need help with your ucf jealousy. Major coaches wanted him and we will leave it at that. I don't care about the 7 foot stiff you guys had. Hopefully usf does something soon so you can keep focus your side. All your posts in this thread smell of jealousy.

Is he going to be the next Dwight Howard? No, but if we keep landing this level of talent we will have a solid team.
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(10-28-2014 08:00 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 04:24 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 04:18 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 03:27 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 03:00 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  I find it funny that people are quoting my post when I never said that he was a bad signing or wasnt going to be good. If you look at the history of really tall centers, they typically dont work out. VERY few are effective. their conditioning typically isnt great. You end up with joint and back issues. For UCFs sake, I hope the kid does well... and he better get that conditioning up cause now that USF has Coach O, well be running up tempo.



btw... this is who is going to be running Point for USF next year. Roddy Peters.. a transfer from Maryland
http://247sports.com/Player/Roddy-Peters...tion=12575

I find it also funny that usf fans have to crash this thread about how it won't work out. I guess you're smarter than Georgetown basketball coaches.

And who cares about the espn 4 star from 2013 class? That ranking means nothing today. He wasn't a factor obviously at Maryland with 2 points per game and likely had talent in front of him. Don't know but it doesn't matter with the topic.


Nowhere as funny as your post that sent this thread spiraling down a laugh track....

"Donnie Jones! Recruits want to play for him.

We have a team in 2015-16 season that is power quality team. Pretty much our team will be stacked with players. No more easy wins against ucf!"

For the record, my,point still stands where a big lumbering guy like this doesn't run the floor well. So unless Jones is going to change the offense to a walk up the floor type of scheme....folks should hold off with "power quality team" comments.

Thanks for the laughs...

Maybe your team will decent at some point in the near future where you don't have to put down others. If usf has many more horrible seasons you might be alone at RJS. Get full access to the ship though. That is a plus.

and I'll add you to the usf list that is smarter than the coaches at Georgetown, Xavier, Baylor, FL State, etc. Glad you have that background.

WTF is your problem? Show me where "I put down others"?

I simply disagreed with the impact of Jordan on your program and questioned how a plodding big man fits in Jones up tempo style. You obviously are incapable of carrying out an adult conversation so ....there is nothing much left to say.

Look at post first post #14 and look at the cheap shot you took in your post #27. You obviously are the one with problem.

I seriously doubt he is going to play 40 mins a game. Never said he was going to run the court all game.
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(10-28-2014 08:06 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 07:54 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 06:50 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  FFS. Always the same thing with the same USF fans.

Not my problem if KNIGHTTIME isn't mature enough to have a an actual conversation.

I neither bashed the kid or UCF, unfortunately this chic either has poor reading comprehension skills or has the emotional intelligence of a five year old.

Whatever...same old UCF fans with their delusional rankings.

You need help with your ucf jealousy. Major coaches wanted him and we will leave it at that. I don't care about the 7 foot stiff you guys had. Hopefully usf does something soon so you can keep focus your side. All your posts in this thread smell of jealousy.

Is he going to be the next Dwight Howard? No, but if we keep landing this level of talent we will have a solid team.

Dude... it has nothing to do with jealousy...or whatever you think that means.

AGAIN...I never questioned his ability but rather how he fits in Jones system. If he had a Georgetown offer....then he fits in the Hoyas slow down system.

It's a simple basketball related question that you continue to show your inability to answer...or discuss.
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(10-28-2014 09:31 AM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  I think this is a good pickup for UCF.

Best case: He turns into a great player.

In the Middle: Never really pans out but does provide a good 10-15 minutes of prductive play. Still well wortht he scholarship for a back up.

Worst case: His size gets to him, the college game becomes to much, and he either quits or gets injured scholarship opens up for another player.

I really don't see any negatives with signing him. The risk is definitely worth it.

Congrats on the pick up! Looking forward to seeing this monster on the court!

I agree, I do not understand the criticism. Heck, it he just stands in the middle of the lane with his hands up he would be a factor on defense.
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