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RE: Sagarin ranks the top two G5s as #35 Marshall and #37 Boise State.
(10-27-2014 02:33 PM)herdftblfan1 Wrote:  
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(10-27-2014 01:50 PM)herdftblfan1 Wrote:  Assuming a school isn't any good simply based on SOS is a fallacy. Ask UCF how things went for them in a BCS bowl after playing a C-USA schedule. Ask ECU and the east division of 2013 C-USA if Marshall can't compete simply because their 2014 schedule is perceived as being weaker. Assuming a school isn't any good simply makes no sense at all. If that were the case, should we assume that any school Marshall beat in 2013 couldn't compete either?

UCF also played @Louisville (12-1, finished #15 in the country) and hosted South Carolina (11-2, finished #4 in the country). We also played @Penn St (7-5) and beat Houston (8-5) and a bowl-bound Rutgers (6-7) team.

That's part of the reason we weren't shell-shocked when we played Baylor in the Fiesta. We'd already played two teams of similar strength and faced plenty of other challenges. The Utah BCS busters played multiple BCS-conference teams in the regular season... I recall the 2008 team beat four teams that finished in the Top 25. Boise St had trouble scheduling teams, but still got Oregon, VaTech, and Georgia on their schedules. The TCU teams also beat multiple ranked teams. Marshall has none of that.

You may be a very good team, but all we can tell for sure is that you can beat up on scrubs. Can you match up with the OL and DL of a good team? That's what really determines if you can win a major bowl game, and we have no idea if Marshall can do that. It could be another Rice vs Mississippi St deal. UCF, TCU, Utah, and Boise St didn't have to worry quite as much about those kind of things.

No question about that but you are also acting like none of these kids have played in this same environment or that they haven't played the same Conference schedule most of the AA has the past decade. You act as if Marshall is ten years removed from sharing a conference with you.

In the past three years Marshall has played Maryland, WVU, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Purdue, etc. They beat Louisville at Louisville, barely lost to Purdue in the final minutes and it took triple OT for VT to beat the Herd last season. This was during years when Marshall was still on the upswing, very young and not nearly as talented as they are in 2014. It's silly to argue against that just the same as it would be for me to claim we have a hard schedule this year.

The schedule is weak. I admit that. It's dumb not to. Marshall has been dominating that schedule, though, has excelled when comparing common opponents and demonstrated in 2013 their capacity to compete on a level playing field.

All I am saying is it is a mistake for SOME of you to say "Marshall would get destroyed by X team" or "ECU is so much better because of their schedule" etc. You simply do not know that and all evidence otherwise points to the contrary.

The past is just that, the past. Most here have beaten/played some talented teams. But it has no bearing on this years teams. I can understand Marshall's argument, but it is all assumptions...if we played...

For years ECU was in your position but did one thing differently, we would play anyone and did. You only have your AD to blame for this fiasco. Marshall is good in comparison to their competition and sadly it will probably your only downfall.
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RE: Sagarin ranks the top two G5s as #35 Marshall and #37 Boise State.
(10-27-2014 02:54 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  
(10-27-2014 01:50 PM)herdftblfan1 Wrote:  Assuming a school isn't any good simply based on SOS is a fallacy. Ask UCF how things went for them in a BCS bowl after playing a C-USA schedule. Ask ECU and the east division of 2013 C-USA if Marshall can't compete simply because their 2014 schedule is perceived as being weaker. Assuming a school isn't any good simply makes no sense at all. If that were the case, should we assume that any school Marshall beat in 2013 couldn't compete either?

I have no issue with anyone in the AA but I just think is is silly that so many of you are suddenly discounting Marshall because they are no longer in the conference. Marshall had a very strong 2013 (East div. champs, 10-4 with a bowl win over Maryland) against most of YOU and they are a significantly improved and more mature team in 2014.
Marshall has never won a Conference USA championship and they have been a very average team for most of their Conference USA playing years. Having seen two teams from the AAC now, USF and UCONN, it is easy to see the difference between the bottom AAC and Conference USA is not even close. USF and Uconn have better athletes in almost every position that what we saw in Conference USA. Not all bottom dwelling schools are created equal. UCONN's Def is better than anything Marshall has seen this year.

The problem for Marshall also is that after Cato leaves, there is little to no room for growth in Conference USA for football or basketball. The Herd should enjoy this year, but the years after this one look bleak for them and their conference.

Our bottom teams aren't rated as low as your bottom teams. You can keep saying they're way better to make yourself feel better about how ECU has played against them, but it doesn't make it true.

Uconn may have a decent defense, but they have a completely inept offense that is one of the worst in FBS. Their defense isn't even great either if you look at their numbers against who they have played. It's not like Uconn have gone up against a bunch of power schools either that are skewing the numbers (they haven't played any). USF is a pretty decent bottom team, but once again their offense is pretty much terrible. USF has only played against either bottom 10/FCS teams or teams in the top 80. If they played more teams in the 80 - 115 range they would probably win a few of those games and be a bit higher rated. Even then, they've only beaten bottom 10 teams typically by a Touchdown or less.

Uconn's averaging 276.3 yards a game (including against an FCS defense) and they put nearly 400 on ECU. That doesn't magically make them some great bottom team. They went way above their passing average on ECU. All that says is: ECU's passing defense is probably a big weakness. USF is averaging 307.5 a game and put up 350 on ECU's defense. Again, USF went well above their passing average against ECU. SMU averages 183 passing yards a game. They put up 340 passing yards on ECU. And yes, these teams had to throw a bunch against ECU because ECU has a pretty decent run defense; However, USF, Uconn, and SMU also have the worst run offenses in the American so their run game was already ineffective on the year.
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Sagarin ranks the top two G5s as #35 Marshall and #37 Boise State.
(10-27-2014 03:46 PM)Shrack Wrote:  
(10-27-2014 02:54 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  
(10-27-2014 01:50 PM)herdftblfan1 Wrote:  Assuming a school isn't any good simply based on SOS is a fallacy. Ask UCF how things went for them in a BCS bowl after playing a C-USA schedule. Ask ECU and the east division of 2013 C-USA if Marshall can't compete simply because their 2014 schedule is perceived as being weaker. Assuming a school isn't any good simply makes no sense at all. If that were the case, should we assume that any school Marshall beat in 2013 couldn't compete either?

I have no issue with anyone in the AA but I just think is is silly that so many of you are suddenly discounting Marshall because they are no longer in the conference. Marshall had a very strong 2013 (East div. champs, 10-4 with a bowl win over Maryland) against most of YOU and they are a significantly improved and more mature team in 2014.
Marshall has never won a Conference USA championship and they have been a very average team for most of their Conference USA playing years. Having seen two teams from the AAC now, USF and UCONN, it is easy to see the difference between the bottom AAC and Conference USA is not even close. USF and Uconn have better athletes in almost every position that what we saw in Conference USA. Not all bottom dwelling schools are created equal. UCONN's Def is better than anything Marshall has seen this year.

The problem for Marshall also is that after Cato leaves, there is little to no room for growth in Conference USA for football or basketball. The Herd should enjoy this year, but the years after this one look bleak for them and their conference.

Our bottom teams aren't rated as low as your bottom teams. You can keep saying they're way better to make yourself feel better about how ECU has played against them, but it doesn't make it true.

Uconn may have a decent defense, but they have a completely inept offense that is one of the worst in FBS. Their defense isn't even great either if you look at their numbers against who they have played. It's not like Uconn have gone up against a bunch of power schools either that are skewing the numbers (they haven't played any). USF is a pretty decent bottom team, but once again their offense is pretty much terrible. USF has only played against either bottom 10/FCS teams or teams in the top 80. If they played more teams in the 80 - 115 range they would probably win a few of those games and be a bit higher rated. Even then, they've only beaten bottom 10 teams typically by a Touchdown or less.

Uconn's averaging 276.3 yards a game (including against an FCS defense) and they put nearly 400 on ECU. That doesn't magically make them some great bottom team. They went way above their passing average on ECU. All that says is: ECU's passing defense is probably a big weakness. USF is averaging 307.5 a game and put up 350 on ECU's defense. Again, USF went well above their passing average against ECU. SMU averages 183 passing yards a game. They put up 340 passing yards on ECU. And yes, these teams had to throw a bunch against ECU because ECU has a pretty decent run defense; However, USF, Uconn, and SMU also have the worst run offenses in the American so their run game was already ineffective on the year.

Actually usf has a decent running game


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RE: Sagarin ranks the top two G5s as #35 Marshall and #37 Boise State.
(10-27-2014 03:46 PM)Shrack Wrote:  
(10-27-2014 02:54 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  
(10-27-2014 01:50 PM)herdftblfan1 Wrote:  Assuming a school isn't any good simply based on SOS is a fallacy. Ask UCF how things went for them in a BCS bowl after playing a C-USA schedule. Ask ECU and the east division of 2013 C-USA if Marshall can't compete simply because their 2014 schedule is perceived as being weaker. Assuming a school isn't any good simply makes no sense at all. If that were the case, should we assume that any school Marshall beat in 2013 couldn't compete either?

I have no issue with anyone in the AA but I just think is is silly that so many of you are suddenly discounting Marshall because they are no longer in the conference. Marshall had a very strong 2013 (East div. champs, 10-4 with a bowl win over Maryland) against most of YOU and they are a significantly improved and more mature team in 2014.
Marshall has never won a Conference USA championship and they have been a very average team for most of their Conference USA playing years. Having seen two teams from the AAC now, USF and UCONN, it is easy to see the difference between the bottom AAC and Conference USA is not even close. USF and Uconn have better athletes in almost every position that what we saw in Conference USA. Not all bottom dwelling schools are created equal. UCONN's Def is better than anything Marshall has seen this year.

The problem for Marshall also is that after Cato leaves, there is little to no room for growth in Conference USA for football or basketball. The Herd should enjoy this year, but the years after this one look bleak for them and their conference.

Our bottom teams aren't rated as low as your bottom teams. You can keep saying they're way better to make yourself feel better about how ECU has played against them, but it doesn't make it true.

Uconn may have a decent defense, but they have a completely inept offense that is one of the worst in FBS. Their defense isn't even great either if you look at their numbers against who they have played. It's not like Uconn have gone up against a bunch of power schools either that are skewing the numbers (they haven't played any). USF is a pretty decent bottom team, but once again their offense is pretty much terrible. USF has only played against either bottom 10/FCS teams or teams in the top 80. If they played more teams in the 80 - 115 range they would probably win a few of those games and be a bit higher rated. Even then, they've only beaten bottom 10 teams typically by a Touchdown or less.

Uconn's averaging 276.3 yards a game (including against an FCS defense) and they put nearly 400 on ECU. That doesn't magically make them some great bottom team. They went way above their passing average on ECU. All that says is: ECU's passing defense is probably a big weakness. USF is averaging 307.5 a game and put up 350 on ECU's defense. Again, USF went well above their passing average against ECU. SMU averages 183 passing yards a game. They put up 340 passing yards on ECU. And yes, these teams had to throw a bunch against ECU because ECU has a pretty decent run defense; However, USF, Uconn, and SMU also have the worst run offenses in the American so their run game was already ineffective on the year.

You mad bro?
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(10-27-2014 01:50 PM)herdftblfan1 Wrote:  Assuming a school isn't any good simply based on SOS is a fallacy. Ask UCF how things went for them in a BCS bowl after playing a C-USA schedule. Ask ECU and the east division of 2013 C-USA if Marshall can't compete simply because their 2014 schedule is perceived as being weaker. Assuming a school isn't any good simply makes no sense at all. If that were the case, should we assume that any school Marshall beat in 2013 couldn't compete either?

I have no issue with anyone in the AA but I just think is is silly that so many of you are suddenly discounting Marshall because they are no longer in the conference. Marshall had a very strong 2013 (East div. champs, 10-4 with a bowl win over Maryland) against most of YOU and they are a significantly improved and more mature team in 2014.

I have not seen a single post saying Marshall does not have a very good team. They do. If they had scheduled a decent OOC schedule like ECU?....There would be not debate. Marshall has no one but themselves to blame for their lightweight schedule. My suggestion is to step it up. These schedules are not made yearly. Marshall evidently missed the boat somehow several years ago.

It may be bad for Marshall...but...the committee is going to judge SOS in making its determinations. To do otherwise would be incompetent.
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(10-27-2014 02:45 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  If ECU wins out im afraid there's nothing Marshall can do.

I personally think Marshall is a very good team. I have watched them play. They are fun to watch. Problem is they don't have the schedule. I firmly believe Marshall could handle plenty of P5 teams. Access bowls aren't given to teams that play 3 MAC schools who are bad to average at best and a C-USA schedule.

Well stated. Marshall has no leg to stand on with their schedule even though they may well be one of the best teams in the nation. The problem is?...They can't prove it through competition. They should have been proactive and upped their OOC schedule several years ago.
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RE: Sagarin ranks the top two G5s as #35 Marshall and #37 Boise State.
I think if Marshall wins out and gets a 9-3 Rice or La. Tech in the championship game, they have a good chance of getting in (though winning one extra game makes it more difficult, but I do feel it boosts their profile). If the AAC had a championship game this year, I would most definitely put it completely in ECU's favor. I also feel it depends pretty heavily on how Virginia Tech and UNC do by the end of the year. It's pretty dang difficult to gauge.
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(10-27-2014 09:05 PM)Shrack Wrote:  I think if Marshall wins out and gets a 9-3 Rice or La. Tech in the championship game, they have a good chance of getting in (though winning one extra game makes it more difficult, but I do feel it boosts their profile). If the AAC had a championship game this year, I would most definitely put it completely in ECU's favor. I also feel it depends pretty heavily on how Virginia Tech and UNC do by the end of the year. It's pretty dang difficult to gauge.

I can't imagine the committee picking Marshall with 13 wins over ECU with 11 over VT,UNC and the AAC schedule. I think it sucks for Marshall..but..they have no way to prove they can beat good teams.
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(10-27-2014 09:09 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(10-27-2014 09:05 PM)Shrack Wrote:  I think if Marshall wins out and gets a 9-3 Rice or La. Tech in the championship game, they have a good chance of getting in (though winning one extra game makes it more difficult, but I do feel it boosts their profile). If the AAC had a championship game this year, I would most definitely put it completely in ECU's favor. I also feel it depends pretty heavily on how Virginia Tech and UNC do by the end of the year. It's pretty dang difficult to gauge.

I can't imagine the committee picking Marshall with 13 wins over ECU with 11 over VT,UNC and the AAC schedule. I think it sucks for Marshall..but..they have no way to prove they can beat good teams.

I think that is mostly true, but the championship game should give them a bit of a boost. Whoever ends up as the CUSA west champion will likely be receiving votes in the polls and be a low 30s team, assuming they win out. Most rankings have ECU's conference schedule lower than Marshall's right now, but ECU has the boost of playing a currently more difficult conference game in UCF. It'll really probably all come down to how the committee views the UNC/Virginia Tech wins.
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(10-27-2014 08:58 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Sagarin 03-lmfao This stupid ass poll also has North Dakota State ranked #34, Arkansas ranked #31, and Illinois State ranked #53. OP is a troll. It should be pretty obvious by now.

I guess we should put NDSU in the Access Bowl based on the OP.

Point taken but it's not as if they couldn't win. The 3-time FCS champs destroyed Iowa State on their home field and we've already seen a 3-time champ FCS power win on a top 5 powerhouse's field in 2007. Stranger things have happened.
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(10-27-2014 09:05 PM)Shrack Wrote:  I think if Marshall wins out and gets a 9-3 Rice or La. Tech in the championship game, they have a good chance of getting in (though winning one extra game makes it more difficult, but I do feel it boosts their profile). If the AAC had a championship game this year, I would most definitely put it completely in ECU's favor. I also feel it depends pretty heavily on how Virginia Tech and UNC do by the end of the year. It's pretty dang difficult to gauge.

If Marshall wins out then Rice gets their 4th loss.
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RE: Sagarin ranks the top two G5s as #35 Marshall and #37 Boise State.
(10-27-2014 09:18 PM)Shrack Wrote:  
(10-27-2014 09:09 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(10-27-2014 09:05 PM)Shrack Wrote:  I think if Marshall wins out and gets a 9-3 Rice or La. Tech in the championship game, they have a good chance of getting in (though winning one extra game makes it more difficult, but I do feel it boosts their profile). If the AAC had a championship game this year, I would most definitely put it completely in ECU's favor. I also feel it depends pretty heavily on how Virginia Tech and UNC do by the end of the year. It's pretty dang difficult to gauge.

I can't imagine the committee picking Marshall with 13 wins over ECU with 11 over VT,UNC and the AAC schedule. I think it sucks for Marshall..but..they have no way to prove they can beat good teams.

I think that is mostly true, but the championship game should give them a bit of a boost. Whoever ends up as the CUSA west champion will likely be receiving votes in the polls and be a low 30s team, assuming they win out. Most rankings have ECU's conference schedule lower than Marshall's right now, but ECU has the boost of playing a currently more difficult conference game in UCF. It'll really probably all come down to how the committee views the UNC/Virginia Tech wins.

I can tell you how they'll view them: with infinitely more favor that Marshall walking through their semi-FCS schedule.

Seriously, you CUSA fans need to stop being delusional and telling yourselves that the UNC and VT wins really suck when trying to compare them to anything that Marshall has done.

Their only OOC team with a freaking pulse was AKRON.

You keep talking about the CUSA championship game but guess what? The December 4th Thursday night game between ECU/UCF will likely be our de facto championship game and it will have way more eyeballs glued to it. I'm of course hoping we piss on ECU's journey but if they do manage to win then I promise you it will carry more weight than Marshall waxing whatever CUSA team fills the championship game void.
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(10-27-2014 09:09 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(10-27-2014 09:05 PM)Shrack Wrote:  I think if Marshall wins out and gets a 9-3 Rice or La. Tech in the championship game, they have a good chance of getting in (though winning one extra game makes it more difficult, but I do feel it boosts their profile). If the AAC had a championship game this year, I would most definitely put it completely in ECU's favor. I also feel it depends pretty heavily on how Virginia Tech and UNC do by the end of the year. It's pretty dang difficult to gauge.

I can't imagine the committee picking Marshall with 13 wins over ECU with 11 over VT,UNC and the AAC schedule. I think it sucks for Marshall..but..they have no way to prove they can beat good teams.

No offense but you guys are falling in the "P5" trap. It's garbage. I like ECU but their SOS is falling like a ton of bricks.
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(10-27-2014 10:15 PM)herdftblfan1 Wrote:  
(10-27-2014 09:09 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(10-27-2014 09:05 PM)Shrack Wrote:  I think if Marshall wins out and gets a 9-3 Rice or La. Tech in the championship game, they have a good chance of getting in (though winning one extra game makes it more difficult, but I do feel it boosts their profile). If the AAC had a championship game this year, I would most definitely put it completely in ECU's favor. I also feel it depends pretty heavily on how Virginia Tech and UNC do by the end of the year. It's pretty dang difficult to gauge.

I can't imagine the committee picking Marshall with 13 wins over ECU with 11 over VT,UNC and the AAC schedule. I think it sucks for Marshall..but..they have no way to prove they can beat good teams.

No offense but you guys are falling in the "P5" trap. It's garbage. I like ECU but their SOS is falling like a ton of bricks.

You can compare beating acc teams over anything marshall has done which is zero. Nobody is going to be impressed beating 3 mac schools + 1 FCS + and c-usa schedule. Zero P5 games and zero games in hostile terrority.
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The playoff was supposed to stop all this poll debate. Now instead we have a conference hiring a PR firm to help their best team get selected to a bowl game. Things have gone the opposite way, and politics is more a part of it than ever!
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(10-27-2014 02:33 PM)herdftblfan1 Wrote:  [No question about that but you are also acting like none of these kids have played in this same environment or that they haven't played the same Conference schedule most of the AA has the past decade. You act as if Marshall is ten years removed from sharing a conference with you.

In the past three years Marshall has played Maryland, WVU, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Purdue, etc. They beat Louisville at Louisville, barely lost to Purdue in the final minutes and it took triple OT for VT to beat the Herd last season. This was during years when Marshall was still on the upswing, very young and not nearly as talented as they are in 2014. It's silly to argue against that just the same as it would be for me to claim we have a hard schedule this year.

The schedule is weak. I admit that. It's dumb not to. Marshall has been dominating that schedule, though, has excelled when comparing common opponents and demonstrated in 2013 their capacity to compete on a level playing field.

All I am saying is it is a mistake for SOME of you to say "Marshall would get destroyed by X team" or "ECU is so much better because of their schedule" etc. You simply do not know that and all evidence otherwise points to the contrary.

Those old teams mean nothing to this one. How well will this OL hold up to the best DL it will have seen, and vice versa? We have no idea, so it's hard for people to give Marshall credit, fair or not. ECU has had at least some experience with bigger lineman, and for their part, have done a pretty good job in those games.

I don't think anyone is saying Marshall would get destroyed, or that ECU is a better team because of the schedules. But when you're using polls to determine which one of the G5 teams gets the Access bowl, uncertainty hurts your chances.
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(10-27-2014 10:15 PM)herdftblfan1 Wrote:  
(10-27-2014 09:09 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(10-27-2014 09:05 PM)Shrack Wrote:  I think if Marshall wins out and gets a 9-3 Rice or La. Tech in the championship game, they have a good chance of getting in (though winning one extra game makes it more difficult, but I do feel it boosts their profile). If the AAC had a championship game this year, I would most definitely put it completely in ECU's favor. I also feel it depends pretty heavily on how Virginia Tech and UNC do by the end of the year. It's pretty dang difficult to gauge.

I can't imagine the committee picking Marshall with 13 wins over ECU with 11 over VT,UNC and the AAC schedule. I think it sucks for Marshall..but..they have no way to prove they can beat good teams.

No offense but you guys are falling in the "P5" trap. It's garbage. I like ECU but their SOS is falling like a ton of bricks.

Ill quote the Marshall fans....."We are playing the schedule in front of us." 03-idea
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RE: Sagarin ranks the top two G5s as #35 Marshall and #37 Boise State.
(10-28-2014 05:24 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(10-27-2014 10:15 PM)herdftblfan1 Wrote:  
(10-27-2014 09:09 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(10-27-2014 09:05 PM)Shrack Wrote:  I think if Marshall wins out and gets a 9-3 Rice or La. Tech in the championship game, they have a good chance of getting in (though winning one extra game makes it more difficult, but I do feel it boosts their profile). If the AAC had a championship game this year, I would most definitely put it completely in ECU's favor. I also feel it depends pretty heavily on how Virginia Tech and UNC do by the end of the year. It's pretty dang difficult to gauge.

I can't imagine the committee picking Marshall with 13 wins over ECU with 11 over VT,UNC and the AAC schedule. I think it sucks for Marshall..but..they have no way to prove they can beat good teams.

No offense but you guys are falling in the "P5" trap. It's garbage. I like ECU but their SOS is falling like a ton of bricks.

Ill quote the Marshall fans....."We are playing the schedule in front of us." 03-idea

It's amazing that some of these folks think it's logical to use a average for strength of schedule. Bottom line is that UNC and VT could both go bowling. SC almost certainly will go bowling and we've got at least 2 more bowl teams on our schedule in conference. There's nobody on Marshall's schedule that comes close to those 3.

The bottom line is that Marshall really screwed up by only scheduling one P5 opponent this year.
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RE: Sagarin ranks the top two G5s as #35 Marshall and #37 Boise State.
(10-28-2014 06:49 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 05:24 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(10-27-2014 10:15 PM)herdftblfan1 Wrote:  
(10-27-2014 09:09 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(10-27-2014 09:05 PM)Shrack Wrote:  I think if Marshall wins out and gets a 9-3 Rice or La. Tech in the championship game, they have a good chance of getting in (though winning one extra game makes it more difficult, but I do feel it boosts their profile). If the AAC had a championship game this year, I would most definitely put it completely in ECU's favor. I also feel it depends pretty heavily on how Virginia Tech and UNC do by the end of the year. It's pretty dang difficult to gauge.

I can't imagine the committee picking Marshall with 13 wins over ECU with 11 over VT,UNC and the AAC schedule. I think it sucks for Marshall..but..they have no way to prove they can beat good teams.

No offense but you guys are falling in the "P5" trap. It's garbage. I like ECU but their SOS is falling like a ton of bricks.

Ill quote the Marshall fans....."We are playing the schedule in front of us." :idea:

It's amazing that some of these folks think it's logical to use a average for strength of schedule. Bottom line is that UNC and VT could both go bowling. SC almost certainly will go bowling and we've got at least 2 more bowl teams on our schedule in conference. There's nobody on Marshall's schedule that comes close to those 3.

The bottom line is that Marshall really screwed up by only scheduling one P5 opponent this year.

A 6-6 mac team is on a different planet vs a 6-6 acc team. Considering marshall is undefeated and still not ahead of a 1 loss ecu just shows how weak that schedule really is.
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RE: Sagarin ranks the top two G5s as #35 Marshall and #37 Boise State.
(10-27-2014 10:49 PM)PlainTiger Wrote:  The playoff was supposed to stop all this poll debate. Now instead we have a conference hiring a PR firm to help their best team get selected to a bowl game. Things have gone the opposite way, and politics is more a part of it than ever!

No PR firm in the world can fluff that Marshall schedule.
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