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This should have been Big East Basketball:

1. Connecticut
2. Providence
3. Saint John's
4. Seton Hall
5. TEMPLE
6. Villanova
7. Georgetown
8. Xavier
9. Cincinnati
10. Memphis
11. East Carolina
12. Central Florida
13. South Florida
14. Southern Methodist
15. Hoston
16. DePaul
17. Marquette
.18 Boise State
.19 Fresno State
.20 San Diego State

This should have been the Big East Football Conference:

1. Connecticut
2. TEMPLE
9. Cincinnati
4. Memphis
5. East Carolina
6. Central Florida
7. South Florida
8. Southern Methodist
9. Hoston
.10 Boise State
.11 Fresno State
.12 San Diego State

I think your commission failed to put this together and as a result the American and the Big East both got under paid!

(10-24-2014 11:52 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  This should have been Big East Basketball:

1. Connecticut
2. Providence
3. Saint John's
4. Seton Hall
5. TEMPLE
6. Villanova
7. Georgetown
8. Xavier
9. Cincinnati
10. Memphis
11. East Carolina
12. Central Florida
13. South Florida
14. Southern Methodist
15. Hoston
16. DePaul
17. Marquette
.18 Boise State
.19 Fresno State
.20 San Diego State

This should have been the Big East Football Conference:

1. Connecticut
2. TEMPLE
9. Cincinnati
4. Memphis
5. East Carolina
6. Central Florida
7. South Florida
8. Southern Methodist
9. Hoston
.10 Boise State
.11 Fresno State
.12 San Diego State

I think your commission failed to put this together and as a result the American and the Big East both got under paid!

the new Big East loses in the long run.
Tv money is more about football than basketball.

Just like last year, I'll get to watch some interesting Big East non-conf games in Nov/Dec that get carried on ESPN Networks (games/tourn not owned by Big East)...but come Jan to early March...they will disappear again, stuck on whatever channels that exist outside of ESPN's...as ESPN Networks are still KING in regards to College Hoops.

(10-25-2014 06:17 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  Just like last year, I'll get to watch some interesting Big East non-conf games in Nov/Dec that get carried on ESPN Networks (games/tourn not owned by Big East)...but come Jan to early March...they will disappear again, stuck on whatever channels that exist outside of ESPN's...as ESPN Networks are still KING in regards to College Hoops.

True, I plainly remember Memphis being nearly shut out of national media attention while in C-USA even with top ten rankings. Welcome to basketball Siberia, BE.

(10-24-2014 11:52 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  This should have been Big East Basketball:

1. Connecticut
2. Providence
3. Saint John's
4. Seton Hall
5. TEMPLE
6. Villanova
7. Georgetown
8. Xavier
9. Cincinnati
10. Memphis
11. East Carolina
12. Central Florida
13. South Florida
14. Southern Methodist
15. Hoston
16. DePaul
17. Marquette
.18 Boise State
.19 Fresno State
.20 San Diego State

This should have been the Big East Football Conference:

1. Connecticut
2. TEMPLE
9. Cincinnati
4. Memphis
5. East Carolina
6. Central Florida
7. South Florida
8. Southern Methodist
9. Hoston
.10 Boise State
.11 Fresno State
.12 San Diego State

I think your commission failed to put this together and as a result the American and the Big East both got under paid!

I notice that Louisville isn't in either list, so what the hell do you care?

(10-25-2014 07:14 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 06:17 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  Just like last year, I'll get to watch some interesting Big East non-conf games in Nov/Dec that get carried on ESPN Networks (games/tourn not owned by Big East)...but come Jan to early March...they will disappear again, stuck on whatever channels that exist outside of ESPN's...as ESPN Networks are still KING in regards to College Hoops.

True, I plainly remember Memphis being nearly shut out of national media attention while in C-USA even with top ten rankings. Welcome to basketball Siberia, BE.

Memphis though, just like some current Big East teams, got some national exposure due to non-conf games/tourn that either weren't owned by CUSA or some non-conf home games that ended up on CBS.

Come Jan...yes, Memphis normally did disappear from most national airwaves when they were stuck in CUSA...something thats even worse now for Big East (stuck on even smaller sports channels come Jan or during home non-conf games).

The Big East got twice as much money as the AAC, so I don't think they are all that upset we left. With all the NCAA tourney credits they will rack up, they will add another $2+ million. For a basketball only conference to have $6 million income isn't pretty damn good.

(10-25-2014 07:37 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  The Big East got twice as much money as the AAC, so I don't think they are all that upset we left. With all the NCAA tourney credits they will rack up, they will add another $2+ million. For a basketball only conference to have $6 million income isn't pretty damn good.

Last year credits. We nearly doubled the big east credits.

AAC = 11
Big East = 6

This all stems from the big east going with fox and leaving espn. When you are not on espn anymore, you pretty much don't exist.

(10-25-2014 07:42 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 07:37 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  The Big East got twice as much money as the AAC, so I don't think they are all that upset we left. With all the NCAA tourney credits they will rack up, they will add another $2+ million. For a basketball only conference to have $6 million income isn't pretty damn good.

Last year credits. We nearly doubled the big east credits.

AAC = 11
Big East = 6

Oh I know we got more credits but they still got $4 million TV contract and we barely got $2. Total income will be higher in the Big East then in the AAC.

I also don't think the Big East will stay at only getting 6 credits. Last year was a down year.

Its really too bad we all couldnt have destroyed CUSA before the AAC was merged. There were a ton of credits that were left behind.

(10-25-2014 08:12 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 07:42 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 07:37 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  The Big East got twice as much money as the AAC, so I don't think they are all that upset we left. With all the NCAA tourney credits they will rack up, they will add another $2+ million. For a basketball only conference to have $6 million income isn't pretty damn good.

Last year credits. We nearly doubled the big east credits.

AAC = 11
Big East = 6

Oh I know we got more credits but they still got $4 million TV contract and we barely got $2. Total income will be higher in the Big East then in the AAC.

I also don't think the Big East will stay at only getting 6 credits. Last year was a down year.

Its really too bad we all couldnt have destroyed CUSA before the AAC was merged. There were a ton of credits that were left behind.

In the long run, better exposure on and support from ESPN trumps $2M annually (or about $182K per AAC team), IMO.

(10-24-2014 11:52 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  This should have been Big East Basketball:

1. Connecticut
2. Providence
3. Saint John's
4. Seton Hall
5. TEMPLE
6. Villanova
7. Georgetown
8. Xavier
9. Cincinnati
10. Memphis
11. East Carolina
12. Central Florida
13. South Florida
14. Southern Methodist
15. Hoston
16. DePaul
17. Marquette
.18 Boise State
.19 Fresno State
.20 San Diego State

This should have been the Big East Football Conference:

1. Connecticut
2. TEMPLE
9. Cincinnati
4. Memphis
5. East Carolina
6. Central Florida
7. South Florida
8. Southern Methodist
9. Hoston
.10 Boise State
.11 Fresno State
.12 San Diego State

I think your commission failed to put this together and as a result the American and the Big East both got under paid!

Where is Hoston?

(10-25-2014 08:30 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 08:12 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 07:42 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 07:37 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  The Big East got twice as much money as the AAC, so I don't think they are all that upset we left. With all the NCAA tourney credits they will rack up, they will add another $2+ million. For a basketball only conference to have $6 million income isn't pretty damn good.

Last year credits. We nearly doubled the big east credits.

AAC = 11
Big East = 6

Oh I know we got more credits but they still got $4 million TV contract and we barely got $2. Total income will be higher in the Big East then in the AAC.

I also don't think the Big East will stay at only getting 6 credits. Last year was a down year.

Its really too bad we all couldnt have destroyed CUSA before the AAC was merged. There were a ton of credits that were left behind.

In the long run, better exposure on and support from ESPN trumps $2M annually (or about $182K per AAC team), IMO.

Its $2 million more PER TEAM or $20 million annually. Big difference.

(10-25-2014 08:39 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 08:30 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 08:12 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 07:42 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 07:37 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  The Big East got twice as much money as the AAC, so I don't think they are all that upset we left. With all the NCAA tourney credits they will rack up, they will add another $2+ million. For a basketball only conference to have $6 million income isn't pretty damn good.

Last year credits. We nearly doubled the big east credits.

AAC = 11
Big East = 6

Oh I know we got more credits but they still got $4 million TV contract and we barely got $2. Total income will be higher in the Big East then in the AAC.

I also don't think the Big East will stay at only getting 6 credits. Last year was a down year.

Its really too bad we all couldnt have destroyed CUSA before the AAC was merged. There were a ton of credits that were left behind.

In the long run, better exposure on and support from ESPN trumps $2M annually (or about $182K per AAC team), IMO.

Its $2 million more PER TEAM or $20 million annually. Big difference.

True, it does alter the balance. I still believe it is better strategically to be on the side of the Mouse.

(10-25-2014 08:32 AM)J_Coog Wrote:  Where is Hoston?

On the Gulf Cost west of New Orlens.

(10-25-2014 07:17 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 11:52 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  This should have been Big East Basketball:

1. Connecticut
2. Providence
3. Saint John's
4. Seton Hall
5. TEMPLE
6. Villanova
7. Georgetown
8. Xavier
9. Cincinnati
10. Memphis
11. East Carolina
12. Central Florida
13. South Florida
14. Southern Methodist
15. Hoston
16. DePaul
17. Marquette
.18 Boise State
.19 Fresno State
.20 San Diego State

This should have been the Big East Football Conference:

1. Connecticut
2. TEMPLE
9. Cincinnati
4. Memphis
5. East Carolina
6. Central Florida
7. South Florida
8. Southern Methodist
9. Hoston
.10 Boise State
.11 Fresno State
.12 San Diego State

I think your commission failed to put this together and as a result the American and the Big East both got under paid!

I notice that Louisville isn't in either list, so what the hell do you care?

Ignore him. He has an estrogen imbalance

(10-25-2014 08:50 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 08:39 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 08:30 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 08:12 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 07:42 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Last year credits. We nearly doubled the big east credits.

AAC = 11
Big East = 6

Oh I know we got more credits but they still got $4 million TV contract and we barely got $2. Total income will be higher in the Big East then in the AAC.

I also don't think the Big East will stay at only getting 6 credits. Last year was a down year.

Its really too bad we all couldnt have destroyed CUSA before the AAC was merged. There were a ton of credits that were left behind.

In the long run, better exposure on and support from ESPN trumps $2M annually (or about $182K per AAC team), IMO.

Its $2 million more PER TEAM or $20 million annually. Big difference.

True, it does alter the balance. I still believe it is better strategically to be on the side of the Mouse.

I totally agree... the "old" Big East gave ESPN the finger and said "were going to market and see what we can get" 9 months later and we had lost Pitt, Cuse, TCU and West Virginia. Then they gave BYU an Indy contract to avoid us putting togther a strong East/West conference... and then helped Rutgers and Lville leave.

ESPN is like the Romans. They don't just punish you, they go after three generations.

(10-25-2014 08:50 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 08:39 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 08:30 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 08:12 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 07:42 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Last year credits. We nearly doubled the big east credits.

AAC = 11
Big East = 6

Oh I know we got more credits but they still got $4 million TV contract and we barely got $2. Total income will be higher in the Big East then in the AAC.

I also don't think the Big East will stay at only getting 6 credits. Last year was a down year.

Its really too bad we all couldnt have destroyed CUSA before the AAC was merged. There were a ton of credits that were left behind.

In the long run, better exposure on and support from ESPN trumps $2M annually (or about $182K per AAC team), IMO.

Its $2 million more PER TEAM or $20 million annually. Big difference.

True, it does alter the balance. I still believe it is better strategically to be on the side of the Mouse.

$2 million per team for just the TV deal...yes, but....

They had to pay out NCAA credits, buy the Big East name, pay exit fees, etc. They are not getting $2 million extra over the AAC teams (Especially Uconn, USF, and Cincy that got most of the warchest)

If you look at a 5 year analysis with all the lost revenue leaving the old Big East, they had to get $4 million just be close to $2 million per year in the AAC. Now the question is do they even get $4 million in their next TV deal with non-existent ratings. Fox assumed they would produce ratings like they did in the past. No large state schools and a smaller conference means less eye balls watching.

(10-25-2014 09:50 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 08:50 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 08:39 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 08:30 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 08:12 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Oh I know we got more credits but they still got $4 million TV contract and we barely got $2. Total income will be higher in the Big East then in the AAC.

I also don't think the Big East will stay at only getting 6 credits. Last year was a down year.

Its really too bad we all couldnt have destroyed CUSA before the AAC was merged. There were a ton of credits that were left behind.

In the long run, better exposure on and support from ESPN trumps $2M annually (or about $182K per AAC team), IMO.

Its $2 million more PER TEAM or $20 million annually. Big difference.

True, it does alter the balance. I still believe it is better strategically to be on the side of the Mouse.

$2 million per team for just the TV deal...yes, but....

They had to pay out NCAA credits, buy the Big East name, pay exit fees, etc. They are not getting $2 million extra over the AAC teams (Especially Uconn, USF, and Cincy that got most of the warchest)

If you look at a 5 year analysis with all the lost revenue leaving the old Big East, they had to get $4 million just be close to $2 million per year in the AAC. Now the question is do they even get $4 million in their next TV deal with non-existent ratings. Fox assumed they would produce ratings like they did in the past. No large state schools and a smaller conference means less eye balls watching.

You mean people aren't searching their TVs to watch Providence-DePaul?