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RE: Sun Belt Conference puts expansion on hold - for now
Generally I agree with going to 9 or 12. If the teams are willing to play a 9 game conference schedule then 10 could be a workable number. I think JMU was the desired #12 team but they have made it clear they are not interested. I have been told JMU so angered several Sun Belt members that they probably would not be voted in now even if they wanted in.

Missouri St. or Eastern Kentucky would appear to be the most likely #12 at this point.
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(10-24-2014 04:02 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  
(10-24-2014 03:44 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  If the Belt does decide to expand I've heard there's a school named Liberty that's interested in joining. What do you guys think? Would they be a good addition?

Liberty should make a bold move. Make an offer of $10 million to each school for a membership.

Wouldn't make a difference. Liberty is being shut out. We heard significant money was offered. Not logical so money won't help

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(10-24-2014 05:18 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  
(10-24-2014 03:44 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  If the Belt does decide to expand I've heard there's a school named Liberty that's interested in joining. What do you guys think? Would they be a good addition?

Never heard of them.

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(10-24-2014 11:00 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(10-24-2014 10:43 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(10-24-2014 10:24 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  More likely its going to give Idaho the heave ho after the contract expires and stay at a 10 football teams. No reason anymore to keep Idaho if you aren't going to expand. Given that scenario, you can wait for both Missouri St. and JMU or team X to take time to get facilities and funding for FBS football.

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Would be nice but don't see UTA adding FBS football.

On another note, a good question to ask the Sun Belt is when the automony rules get activated, will the Sunbelt become a conference without basketball only schools?

The Sun Belt is the only FBS conference that has bb-only schools in its conference. UTA and UALR will have to compete with other schools in the conference that get the CFP $$. That at least give the football schools $$ to apply some of the automony benefits and UTA and UALR won't probably be able to do.
Its not like both won't be able to find a home in a non-football conference.

There are no basketball only members in the sun belt
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Our AD said they offered money in the same ball park that WV paid to join the Big 12. I've searched and searched for that entry fee, but I've not been able to find it. I would think it's in the 10-15 million dollar range. If that's not going to get Liberty in then it's not going to happen. I think a high percentage of out fan base has realized that.
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(10-24-2014 08:11 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  I don't see the benefit of dropping UTA or UALR. They are olympic only (I know not all the sports are olympic, but come on) and reduce travel costs are close to existing teams. It's good to keep them.

I'm of the mind a 12/14 lineup is best for the Sun Belt. Drop Idaho (I hate to say that, but you know... business is business), NMSU all sports add, MSU & EKU.

I say that happens in 5 years.

The SBC needs to keep Idaho around. The Vandals will be needed to fill the void when a current SBC member leaves. I'm sure that with it's recent win over AState, UL-L is once again poised to make that move to the Big 12.
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(10-24-2014 10:56 PM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  Our AD said they offered money in the same ball park that WV paid to join the Big 12. I've searched and searched for that entry fee, but I've not been able to find it. I would think it's in the 10-15 million dollar range. If that's not going to get Liberty in then it's not going to happen. I think a high percentage of out fan base has realized that.

I'm sure there IS a number that would secure an invite. How much that is, I have no idea.
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(10-25-2014 05:27 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(10-24-2014 08:11 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  I don't see the benefit of dropping UTA or UALR. They are olympic only (I know not all the sports are olympic, but come on) and reduce travel costs are close to existing teams. It's good to keep them.

I'm of the mind a 12/14 lineup is best for the Sun Belt. Drop Idaho (I hate to say that, but you know... business is business), NMSU all sports add, MSU & EKU.

I say that happens in 5 years.

The SBC needs to keep Idaho around. The Vandals will be needed to fill the void when a current SBC member leaves. I'm sure that with it's recent win over AState, UL-L is once again poised to make that move to the Big 12.

Those words of wisdom from the guy who said this in late September:

Quote:Beating UL-L was nothing 6 or 7 other teams won't do this season, and the jury is still out on how good UNT is or is not.

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(10-25-2014 05:27 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  The SBC needs to keep Idaho around. The Vandals will be needed to fill the void when a current SBC member leaves. I'm sure that with it's recent win over AState, UL-L is once again poised to make that move to the Big 12.

Why?

Is Idaho going to suddenly get into the MWC? Are they going to drop to FCS?

Worst case scenario: We kick Idaho out, Idaho has to drop to FCS. stAte/Cajuns/TXST/whomever gets an invite to another conference and accepts. There are still NUMEROUS FCS teams wanting to move up (Liberty, Lamar come to mind off the top of my head). We still have options that are more palatable as they are in the footprint.

Or by that time, UTA decides to activate football.
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Am I the only one who thinks no more fcs teams should be added to fbs? It's getting ridiculous..add umass and call it a day.
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(10-25-2014 01:45 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  Am I the only one who thinks no more fcs teams should be added to fbs? It's getting ridiculous..add umass and call it a day.

I'd normally agree, but we really need to improve basketball.
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(10-25-2014 01:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(10-25-2014 01:45 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  Am I the only one who thinks no more fcs teams should be added to fbs? It's getting ridiculous..add umass and call it a day.

I'd normally agree, but we really need to improve basketball.

I agree, but I thought no one cared about basketball? All I ever see on here is football drives the bus. Wish our current teams could improve hoops.
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(10-25-2014 11:11 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(10-25-2014 05:27 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(10-24-2014 08:11 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  I don't see the benefit of dropping UTA or UALR. They are olympic only (I know not all the sports are olympic, but come on) and reduce travel costs are close to existing teams. It's good to keep them.

I'm of the mind a 12/14 lineup is best for the Sun Belt. Drop Idaho (I hate to say that, but you know... business is business), NMSU all sports add, MSU & EKU.

I say that happens in 5 years.

The SBC needs to keep Idaho around. The Vandals will be needed to fill the void when a current SBC member leaves. I'm sure that with it's recent win over AState, UL-L is once again poised to make that move to the Big 12.

Those words of wisdom from the guy who said this in late September:

Quote:Beating UL-L was nothing 6 or 7 other teams won't do this season, and the jury is still out on how good UNT is or is not.

03-lmfao at both brilliant remarks.

I agree that it is laughable that after being destroyed by La Tech, Ole Miss, and Boise, UL-L turns out to be the best in class in the SBC. I also agree that any idea that UL-L would ever be considered by the Big 12 is laughable as well. You are correct though, that I did predict you guys would lose 3 or 4 SBC games this year. I've been proven wrong on a couple of teams so far, but I still think you guys will lose to either ULM or USA, or maybe both. That probably only means you guys will beat them both. Anyway, congrats on the win over AState. That was a win over a quality opponent that I did not see coming.
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(10-25-2014 01:56 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  
(10-25-2014 01:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(10-25-2014 01:45 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  Am I the only one who thinks no more fcs teams should be added to fbs? It's getting ridiculous..add umass and call it a day.

I'd normally agree, but we really need to improve basketball.

I agree, but I thought no one cared about basketball? All I ever see on here is football drives the bus. Wish our current teams could improve hoops.

We need to renegotiate the TV contract and invest the extra money on improving hoops so we can start to get some NCAA units.
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(10-25-2014 01:13 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  
(10-25-2014 05:27 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  The SBC needs to keep Idaho around. The Vandals will be needed to fill the void when a current SBC member leaves. I'm sure that with it's recent win over AState, UL-L is once again poised to make that move to the Big 12.

Why?

Is Idaho going to suddenly get into the MWC? Are they going to drop to FCS?

His comment was purely trollish, nothing more. After LaTech whips our azzes at Cajun Field he could show some class in victory, but no, he takes every opportunity possible to insult our program. It's telling.
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(10-25-2014 01:59 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  You are correct though, that I did predict you guys would lose 3 or 4 SBC games this year.

Uh, not quite. We'd completed our OOC when you made the comment I quoted.
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(10-24-2014 03:34 PM)DoubleAggie Wrote:  
(10-24-2014 02:23 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  
(10-24-2014 10:24 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  More likely its going to give Idaho the heave ho after the contract expires and stay at a 10 football teams. No reason anymore to keep Idaho if you aren't going to expand. Given that scenario, you can wait for both Missouri St. and JMU or team X to take time to get facilities and funding for FBS football.

I would like to see every conference at 10 with each team playing all 9 conference members plus 3 OOC games. That would determine a true champion. Not a 14 or 16 team conference where you only play half the teams and some teams you only play once every 5-10 years, like the SEC does. The SEC wants and gets all the money by loading itself with top teams, then doesn't play half of them and complains because their schedule is too tough. I know its not going to happen, but it should. Then, every conference champion participates in a run at the national championship, not the farce that it has been and is today. FCS or 1AA has the perfect 16 team model.

10 or 12 are good football numbers -
10 is a complete round robin,
12 gets you a CCG, reduced travel, and see the 3 next year that you don't see this year.

Basketball can work a lot of ways, but what we've seen in the WAC is that with fewer conference games ( because Idaho left for Big Sky this year ) schools filled out the season with some higher RPI opponents, which is good if you're trying to boost your own and the conference RPI.

A Sun Belt football schools with 10 schools playing a round robin schedule is not going to work. One less non-conference game means potentially one less money game or one less home game. Since the SBC does not have the revenue of a Big 12, an eight game conference schedule is not going to change to a nine game conference schedule.

The WAC is not playing a better non-conference schedule, but NMSU is. Playing NMSU will not hurt your RPI and could help. Playing any other WAC school will hurt your RPI. SMU barely missed the tournament last year and they are still kicking themselves for having played Texas State.
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(10-25-2014 01:56 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  
(10-25-2014 01:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(10-25-2014 01:45 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  Am I the only one who thinks no more fcs teams should be added to fbs? It's getting ridiculous..add umass and call it a day.

I'd normally agree, but we really need to improve basketball.

I agree, but I thought no one cared about basketball? All I ever see on here is football drives the bus. Wish our current teams could improve hoops.

Added UmAss football only and then adding New Mexico State in all sports is the best option. No more FCS AND NMstate instantly upgrades basketball.
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(10-25-2014 02:01 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(10-25-2014 01:13 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  
(10-25-2014 05:27 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  The SBC needs to keep Idaho around. The Vandals will be needed to fill the void when a current SBC member leaves. I'm sure that with it's recent win over AState, UL-L is once again poised to make that move to the Big 12.

Why?

Is Idaho going to suddenly get into the MWC? Are they going to drop to FCS?

His comment was purely trollish, nothing more. After LaTech whips our azzes at Cajun Field he could show some class in victory, but no, he takes every opportunity possible to insult our program. It's telling.

That really sounds like a couple ULL guys.
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(10-25-2014 02:07 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(10-25-2014 01:59 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  You are correct though, that I did predict you guys would lose 3 or 4 SBC games this year.

Uh, not quite. We'd completed our OOC when you made the comment I quoted.

Here, I'll help you with the math. UL-L completed its OOC schedule at 1-3. I then made a prediction that 6 or 7 teams will beat UL-L by season's end. That would mean I predicted UL-L would lose 3 or 4 conference games.
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