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RE: You again? UL vs Ark St refs
(10-23-2014 01:42 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: (10-23-2014 01:26 PM)GaryRWReport Wrote: (10-23-2014 12:51 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote: (10-23-2014 12:47 PM)CatMom Wrote: I felt they got it right (and I'm pretty harsh on officiating crews). We've had a play like that before and I've seen it called like that in the NFL. Regardless of what you or I or the players or the coaches thought or saw..........you always play until the officials call the play dead (whistle) always!
There is no way of knowing for sure but if one of our defenders "plays to the whistle" and comes in a tags the guy...I promise you we gat a 15 yard late hit. Fortunately it didn't effect the outcome just made it less embarrassing. For as much as they preach about safety ( which I think is a crock) the forward momentum rule should be addressed. The guy was about as defenseless as he could have been but we were expected to hit him to finish the play.
Bogus, if you spear a man or "tag" him in the way you referring then yeah he probably gets an unsportsmanlike. If you go over wrap him up and ensure hes down since there was no whistle then theres no harm. Calling it a bad call because the player would have been prevented from a crushing blow is a bit disingenuous.
As for the second fumble I still dont understand what possesses officials to blow the plays dead so fast, they have replay to fall back on.
A State got man handled on the D line and just missed too many tackles in the back end, good game marred with bad officials who failed to keep the game under control.
Just curious if the ULL fans feel their on field rivalry with A State is "bigger" than the rivalry with ULM.
ULM/ULL seems a little manufactured to be a rivalry right now. Now, it will be a rivalry quick if ULM starts having more success in that series.
The series is nearly even, so not sure sure how we are not having success in it. Especially considering how close most of the games between us usually are.
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RE: You again? UL vs Ark St refs
The main point I was trying to make is that this officiating crew after already being reprimanded once and the terrible game they had Tuesday and they let the game get out of contol that they should have this crew fired. They don't deserve to officiate another game in the SBC.
It was so bad during the Georgia State game that after the color guy announcing the game would see the replays over and over before the replay official would give his call, he had every call different than the replay official that he actually said that he needed to talk to the replay official at the half to see what the replay official saw different than the announcers to make the call that he made.
You can't just keep reprimanding them after every game. They need to be fired.
(This post was last modified: 10-23-2014 02:27 PM by IdahoCajun.)
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Re: RE: You again? UL vs Ark St refs
(10-23-2014 01:54 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote: The main point I was trying to make is that this officiating crew after already being reprimanded once and the terrible game they had Tuesday should have this crew fired. They don't deserve to officiate another game in the SBC.
It was so bad during the Georgia State game that after the color guy announcing the game would see the replays over and over before the replay official would give his ca ll, he had every call different than the replay official that he actually said that he needed to talk to the replay official at the half to see what the replay official saw different than the announcers to make the call that he made.
You can't just keep reprimanding them after every game. They need to be fired.
I won't disagree with that at all, either fire them, or demote and reorganize the crews so that this crew isnt together as a whole anymore. Losing track of the downs is a huge gaffe, blowing a whistle early happens all the time. Losing control of a game could even be excused on occasion, to have all 3 in multiple games (for some of those) plus all the other miscellaneous mistakes a change to that crew should be immediate.
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RE: You again? UL vs Ark St refs
(10-23-2014 01:26 PM)GaryRWReport Wrote: (10-23-2014 12:51 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote: (10-23-2014 12:47 PM)CatMom Wrote: I felt they got it right (and I'm pretty harsh on officiating crews). We've had a play like that before and I've seen it called like that in the NFL. Regardless of what you or I or the players or the coaches thought or saw..........you always play until the officials call the play dead (whistle) always!
There is no way of knowing for sure but if one of our defenders "plays to the whistle" and comes in a tags the guy...I promise you we gat a 15 yard late hit. Fortunately it didn't effect the outcome just made it less embarrassing. For as much as they preach about safety ( which I think is a crock) the forward momentum rule should be addressed. The guy was about as defenseless as he could have been but we were expected to hit him to finish the play.
Bogus, if you spear a man or "tag" him in the way you referring then yeah he probably gets an unsportsmanlike. If you go over wrap him up and ensure hes down since there was no whistle then theres no harm. Calling it a bad call because the player would have been prevented from a crushing blow is a bit disingenuous.
As for the second fumble I still dont understand what possesses officials to blow the plays dead so fast, they have replay to fall back on.
A State got man handled on the D line and just missed too many tackles in the back end, good game marred with bad officials who failed to keep the game under control.
Just curious if the ULL fans feel their on field rivalry with A State is "bigger" than the rivalry with ULM.
I definitely feel the Cajuns have a bigger rivalry with ASU than ULM. I don't even see ULM as a rivalry game. The press tries to make it as a rivalry game.
I feel ASU has taken WKU's place as our biggest rivalry in the SBC. It's the game I look forward to in the past few years. I don't even think about the ULM game.
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RE: You again? UL vs Ark St refs
(10-23-2014 02:00 PM)GaryRWReport Wrote: (10-23-2014 01:54 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote: The main point I was trying to make is that this officiating crew after already being reprimanded once and the terrible game they had Tuesday should have this crew fired. They don't deserve to officiate another game in the SBC.
It was so bad during the Georgia State game that after the color guy announcing the game would see the replays over and over before the replay official would give his ca ll, he had every call different than the replay official that he actually said that he needed to talk to the replay official at the half to see what the replay official saw different than the announcers to make the call that he made.
You can't just keep reprimanding them after every game. They need to be fired.
I won't disagree with that at all, either fire them, or demote and reorganize the crews so that this crew isnt together as a whole anymore. Losing track of the downs is a huge gaffe, blowing a whistle early happens all the time. Losing control of a game could even be excused on occasion, to have all 3 in multiple games (for some of those) plus all the other miscellaneous mistakes a change to that crew should be immediate.
Not sure how they do it regards to scheduling officials but whoever thought having those clowns call a game on national tv between last years co-champs was a good idea, should be fired. That's one hell of a reprimand, thanks Karl.
(This post was last modified: 10-23-2014 02:05 PM by Louisiana99.)
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RE: You again? UL vs Ark St refs
(10-23-2014 02:00 PM)GaryRWReport Wrote: (10-23-2014 01:54 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote: The main point I was trying to make is that this officiating crew after already being reprimanded once and the terrible game they had Tuesday should have this crew fired. They don't deserve to officiate another game in the SBC.
It was so bad during the Georgia State game that after the color guy announcing the game would see the replays over and over before the replay official would give his ca ll, he had every call different than the replay official that he actually said that he needed to talk to the replay official at the half to see what the replay official saw different than the announcers to make the call that he made.
You can't just keep reprimanding them after every game. They need to be fired.
I won't disagree with that at all, either fire them, or demote and reorganize the crews so that this crew isnt together as a whole anymore. Losing track of the downs is a huge gaffe, blowing a whistle early happens all the time. Losing control of a game could even be excused on occasion, to have all 3 in multiple games (for some of those) plus all the other miscellaneous mistakes a change to that crew should be immediate.
That wasn't the only down mistake they made. After a replay, the head official was giving his explanation and said 2nd down. At least our coaches new it was 4th down and sent on the punting team. Don't they have those bands around their fingers to keep track of the downs.
(This post was last modified: 10-23-2014 02:22 PM by IdahoCajun.)
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RE: You again? UL vs Ark St refs
Really wish I could remember which game Andy got those penalties in last year so I could check the crew. For some weird reason our archived stats stop @ 2011.
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RE: You again? UL vs Ark St refs
(10-23-2014 02:20 PM)CatMom Wrote: Really wish I could remember which game Andy got those penalties in last year so I could check the crew. For some weird reason our archived stats stop @ 2011.
If these idiots have been on the job for 5 years, god help them. I was at least hoping this was their first year ever being officials at any level.
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RE: You again? UL vs Ark St refs
(10-23-2014 01:46 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote: If a guy pushes him hard or throws a shoulder, hits him in anyway we get flagged. I didn't say spear him, but any way you hit that guy it's a flag. We had 4 morons calling that game.
If the guy who brought him down could have just hung on to him until the whistle sounded, then we wouldn't be having this discussion. Alternately, another defender could have just stood over him with a hand on his body, again, until the whistle sounded.
The runner (Gordon?) played it perfectly. He didn't hear a whistle and seemed sure that the ball, his elbows nor knees had hit the turf and no one was holding him down. Wise move on his part and could have been a game-winning decision too.
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RE: You again? UL vs Ark St refs
(10-23-2014 01:53 PM)Warsaw landing Wrote: (10-23-2014 01:42 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: (10-23-2014 01:26 PM)GaryRWReport Wrote: (10-23-2014 12:51 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote: (10-23-2014 12:47 PM)CatMom Wrote: I felt they got it right (and I'm pretty harsh on officiating crews). We've had a play like that before and I've seen it called like that in the NFL. Regardless of what you or I or the players or the coaches thought or saw..........you always play until the officials call the play dead (whistle) always!
There is no way of knowing for sure but if one of our defenders "plays to the whistle" and comes in a tags the guy...I promise you we gat a 15 yard late hit. Fortunately it didn't effect the outcome just made it less embarrassing. For as much as they preach about safety ( which I think is a crock) the forward momentum rule should be addressed. The guy was about as defenseless as he could have been but we were expected to hit him to finish the play.
Bogus, if you spear a man or "tag" him in the way you referring then yeah he probably gets an unsportsmanlike. If you go over wrap him up and ensure hes down since there was no whistle then theres no harm. Calling it a bad call because the player would have been prevented from a crushing blow is a bit disingenuous.
As for the second fumble I still dont understand what possesses officials to blow the plays dead so fast, they have replay to fall back on.
A State got man handled on the D line and just missed too many tackles in the back end, good game marred with bad officials who failed to keep the game under control.
Just curious if the ULL fans feel their on field rivalry with A State is "bigger" than the rivalry with ULM.
ULM/ULL seems a little manufactured to be a rivalry right now. Now, it will be a rivalry quick if ULM starts having more success in that series.
The series is nearly even, so not sure sure how we are not having success in it. Especially considering how close most of the games between us usually are.
Lately, the series hasn't been even, lately until last year ulm hasn't be enable to field a competitive team because of the APR issues you had. Those are now gone, we aren't even gonna discuss baseball and softball. That's why I see USA as our biggest rivals, the battles we have had over the years in baseball and basketball, now softball and football, it's just over all a bigger rival to me. I think Richard has your program headed in the right direction but how long will y'all be able to keep him? He is a really good coach who builds the right way. I worry we won't keep marlin either.
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RE: You again? UL vs Ark St refs
Interesting Note because I think many of us were still confused over that final extra point call.
The player the officials ejected on the extra point was the wrong guy...You see...it was finally confirmed today that poor Irving Adams didn't make the trip to Lafayette. But he did get tossed from the game. Good Job Refs.
Since the officials never corrected themselves, or figured out what the heck was going on, Frankie Jackson was never tossed for the hit. He does not face a suspension, unless King Karl does something, which he probably will because he hates us.
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RE: You again? UL vs Ark St refs
(10-24-2014 11:29 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: Interesting Note because I think many of us were still confused over that final extra point call.
The player the officials ejected on the extra point was the wrong guy...You see...it was finally confirmed today that poor Irving Adams didn't make the trip to Lafayette. But he did get tossed from the game. Good Job Refs.
Since the officials never corrected themselves, or figured out what the heck was going on, Frankie Jackson was never tossed for the hit. He does not face a suspension, unless King Karl does something, which he probably will because he hates us.
One thing I think we can all agree on, that crew was horrible. Oh and one thing in your corner, king Karl hates us more.
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RE: You again? UL vs Ark St refs
(10-24-2014 11:29 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: Interesting Note because I think many of us were still confused over that final extra point call.
The player the officials ejected on the extra point was the wrong guy...You see...it was finally confirmed today that poor Irving Adams didn't make the trip to Lafayette. But he did get tossed from the game. Good Job Refs.
Since the officials never corrected themselves, or figured out what the heck was going on, Frankie Jackson was never tossed for the hit. He does not face a suspension, unless King Karl does something, which he probably will because he hates us.
So what you are saying is Anderson won't discipline his own thug because he sanctions his actions?
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RE: You again? UL vs Ark St refs
(10-24-2014 04:40 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote: (10-24-2014 11:29 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: Interesting Note because I think many of us were still confused over that final extra point call.
The player the officials ejected on the extra point was the wrong guy...You see...it was finally confirmed today that poor Irving Adams didn't make the trip to Lafayette. But he did get tossed from the game. Good Job Refs.
Since the officials never corrected themselves, or figured out what the heck was going on, Frankie Jackson was never tossed for the hit. He does not face a suspension, unless King Karl does something, which he probably will because he hates us.
So what you are saying is Anderson won't discipline his own thug because he sanctions his actions?
I wouldn't expect a coach to do this anymore than I would expect a coach to walk out on the field and throw a flag on his own team for a call he thought the refs missed.
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RE: You again? UL vs Ark St refs
(10-24-2014 04:51 PM)Tiguar Wrote: (10-24-2014 04:40 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote: (10-24-2014 11:29 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: Interesting Note because I think many of us were still confused over that final extra point call.
The player the officials ejected on the extra point was the wrong guy...You see...it was finally confirmed today that poor Irving Adams didn't make the trip to Lafayette. But he did get tossed from the game. Good Job Refs.
Since the officials never corrected themselves, or figured out what the heck was going on, Frankie Jackson was never tossed for the hit. He does not face a suspension, unless King Karl does something, which he probably will because he hates us.
So what you are saying is Anderson won't discipline his own thug because he sanctions his actions?
I wouldn't expect a coach to do this anymore than I would expect a coach to walk out on the field and throw a flag on his own team for a call he thought the refs missed.
Why wouldn't you expect a coach to at least come out publicly and say we have addressed his actions internally or have taken appropriate action. I know coaches don't discuss internal disciplinary action, but at least Anderson could make a statement through SID.
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RE: You again? UL vs Ark St refs
Its not necessary. If someone asks then sure but otherwise WGAS. Handle it internally.
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RE: You again? UL vs Ark St refs
USA and Troy about to kickoff.
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RE: You again? UL vs Ark St refs
(10-24-2014 04:40 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote: (10-24-2014 11:29 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: Interesting Note because I think many of us were still confused over that final extra point call.
The player the officials ejected on the extra point was the wrong guy...You see...it was finally confirmed today that poor Irving Adams didn't make the trip to Lafayette. But he did get tossed from the game. Good Job Refs.
Since the officials never corrected themselves, or figured out what the heck was going on, Frankie Jackson was never tossed for the hit. He does not face a suspension, unless King Karl does something, which he probably will because he hates us.
So what you are saying is Anderson won't discipline his own thug because he sanctions his actions?
The official response out of Arkansas State is that it was unintentional and there was no ill will meant by it. Jackson has attempted to reach out to Quave to apologies but received no response.
If there was any discipline, it will not be discussed publicly.
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RE: You again? UL vs Ark St refs
(10-24-2014 04:40 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote: (10-24-2014 11:29 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: Interesting Note because I think many of us were still confused over that final extra point call.
The player the officials ejected on the extra point was the wrong guy...You see...it was finally confirmed today that poor Irving Adams didn't make the trip to Lafayette. But he did get tossed from the game. Good Job Refs.
Since the officials never corrected themselves, or figured out what the heck was going on, Frankie Jackson was never tossed for the hit. He does not face a suspension, unless King Karl does something, which he probably will because he hates us.
So what you are saying is Anderson won't discipline his own thug because he sanctions his actions?
Did Coach Man Boobs criticize the MacGuire thug for running backwards into the end zone which in most cases is a taunting penalty. He cried enough about one they may have missed against stAte.
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RE: You again? UL vs Ark St refs
(10-24-2014 09:31 PM)OsageJ Wrote: (10-24-2014 04:40 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote: (10-24-2014 11:29 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: Interesting Note because I think many of us were still confused over that final extra point call.
The player the officials ejected on the extra point was the wrong guy...You see...it was finally confirmed today that poor Irving Adams didn't make the trip to Lafayette. But he did get tossed from the game. Good Job Refs.
Since the officials never corrected themselves, or figured out what the heck was going on, Frankie Jackson was never tossed for the hit. He does not face a suspension, unless King Karl does something, which he probably will because he hates us.
So what you are saying is Anderson won't discipline his own thug because he sanctions his actions?
Did Coach Man Boobs criticize the MacGuire thug for running backwards into the end zone which in most cases is a taunting penalty. He cried enough about one they may have missed against stAte.
He doesnt jog backwards into the endzone. He does turn once he is in the endzone though. Still not quite the same as taking out a guys knee. Your position is indefensible.
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