(10-24-2014 12:02 PM)Knightbengal Wrote: I find it hard to believe that USfs income freshman gap is a 4.0 and has an 1800 sat. There are more and more usf/Ucf grads in two of the most populous cities it won't last long.
USf says the average sat is 1200.
http://news.usf.edu/article/templates/?z=38&a=5660
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Your comparing the two part and three part. the Max score on the two part, which is what USFs score of 1200 is based on only has a max score of 1600. The baseline need of an 1800 is based on the three section and I believe has a top end of 2400.
As far as incoming SAT, our last two or three incoming classes have had an average of 4.0 Its gonna take time for the average to reach a 4, that's why I said it would take a few years.
Those two aren't the hard part. UCF and USF can both move that up very quickly by simply lowering the number of applicants they take...Notice USF used to have more students and now we have less. Its because we increased admission standards and took fewer in order to move the GPA and average test score up. I wouldn't doubt UCF does something similar soon. If I remember right, yall weren't that far off, so a minor change would net the results in just a few years.
UCFs biggest issue with getting to that status will be endowment. Last I checked your in the low 100s...something like $130 million. You need to be over $500 million to meet the criteria. USF is already at the low $400 million and growing fast because of our recent drive.
The other area UCF will have a while to hit is the research dollars. Again, your in the low $100 millions and it will take time (especially with how slow the grant writing process is) to get it up to the $400 plus mark it will take. USF is over $400 million already and has accomplished both those goals.
I am not certain about UCFs patents. Someone on here can tell me how many yall are getting each year. I don't know. USF is in the top 10 in the nation for patents, so that's another we have already accomplished.
When I say your further away, its not me baggin on UCF. You have to remember that when USF was formed in 1956 it was to be a research school. UCF was to support the sciences for NASA. We got a couple decade head start on research which has put us ahead in that category. With your growth, youll get there but it just is gonna take time.