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(10-22-2014 06:14 PM)USFHP Wrote:  Well, if Scotland can have a vote on whether to break away from England, I don't know a reason why Florida voters can't have a referendum on whether to split itself apart. Every year there are many serious ballot initiatives voted on down here.

Absolutely zero chance that Congress (which I am pretty sure has to happen) would ever let that happen. That would essentially create a new blue state and a new purple one.
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(10-22-2014 06:43 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(10-22-2014 06:08 PM)ECUPirated Wrote:  Give it a few more years and Tallahassee won't have to worry about representing South Florida because this is what Miami will look like. 03-2thumbsup

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So with most of east carolina

Could be right CB. 04-cheers
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When Texas Republic joined the U.S. (1845) , It retained the right to divide into as many as 5 states. I think that's still possible today, and the decision is with voters in Texas, not Congress.
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(10-22-2014 08:56 PM)airbornepirate Wrote:  
(10-22-2014 06:14 PM)USFHP Wrote:  Well, if Scotland can have a vote on whether to break away from England, I don't know a reason why Florida voters can't have a referendum on whether to split itself apart. Every year there are many serious ballot initiatives voted on down here.

Absolutely zero chance that Congress (which I am pretty sure has to happen) would ever let that happen. That would essentially create a new blue state and a new purple one.

No, north Florida would definitely be solid red.
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I would prefer Orlando be in North Florida.
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OP, I was going to give you points for providing the funniest link and post of the week on here, but then I considered that you actually may be serious, and this is not a joke. People believe what they want to believe no matter how ridiculous those of who disagree with them think their ideas are. If I said that North Carolina was going to be split in half to give the Eastern part of NC "proper representation, meaning that ECU would become a flagship would any of you USF, or UCF fans believe me? Some of the unrealistic things said on this board are amazing to me, because I know you guys aren't being facetious, you actually believe this could happen!!
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(10-22-2014 06:14 PM)USFHP Wrote:  Well, if Scotland can have a vote on whether to break away from England, I don't know a reason why Florida voters can't have a referendum on whether to split itself apart. Every year there are many serious ballot initiatives voted on down here.

Well, if Scotland can have a vote on whether to break away from England, I don't know a reason why the voters of any of the 50 states can't have a referendum on whether to split itself apart. Maybe instead of a 50 state country the USA would be better off with a 100 state country. Actually, the western states are quite big come to think of it. Wyoming, Montana, Texas, new Mexico, Nevada, California and Alaska could possibly be split up at least 5 ways each. I could see a 150 state USA. Of course, all this would be done for the sole reason to ensure that schools not currently flagship schools in their respective states can gain that status.
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The sea level is not rising in Miami. They just keep pouring so much concrete that the land is sinking.
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(10-23-2014 07:35 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  people believe what they want to believe no matter how ridiculous those of who disagree with them think their ideas are. If I said that North Carolina was going to be split in half to give the Eastern part of NC "proper representation, meaning that ECU would become a flagship would any of you USF, or UCF fans believe me? Some of the unrealistic things said on this board are amazing to me, because I know you guys aren't being facetious, you actually believe this could happen!!

I don't think this will happen. I thought it was a joke when I read it.
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12 U.S. States That Considered Splitting Apart
James Erwin
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There are 50 states today, but that number was never set in stone. A lot of state governments have had frosty relations with large parts of their own communities. While West Virginia is the only state to successfully break free from another state, plenty of other regions have tried.

Read more at: http://mentalfloss.com/article/58789/12-...ting-apart
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(10-22-2014 04:52 PM)Inigo Wrote:  Well if the city of South Miami can pass this "resolution" by a whopping 1 vote, I'd say it is a done deal.
Too bad I'll no longer be in the same state as UCF.

Limo Liberals trying to make a point about Global Warming and simply....05-stirthepot
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(10-23-2014 08:32 AM)USFHP Wrote:  12 U.S. States That Considered Splitting Apart
James Erwin
filed under: History

There are 50 states today, but that number was never set in stone. A lot of state governments have had frosty relations with large parts of their own communities. While West Virginia is the only state to successfully break free from another state, plenty of other regions have tried.

Read more at: http://mentalfloss.com/article/58789/12-...ting-apart

Well USFHP, i guess you weren't kidding. you really do believe this is a possibility......wow
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(10-22-2014 04:32 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/...x=81738348

Quote:Officials in the City of South Miami have passed a resolution in favor of splitting the state in half so South Florida would become the 51st state.

Vice Mayor Walter Harris proposed the resolution and it passed with a 3-2 vote at the city commission meeting on Oct. 7.

Harris told the commission that Tallahassee isn't providing South Florida with proper representation or addressing its concerns when it comes to sea-level rising.

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Lets pretend for fun that this is legit, no way that line is that high. Orange and Seminole county are one metropolis. They aren't about to end up in separate states. I would Imagine that Most of the I-4 corridor would stay north and not be associated with "North Cuba". Also most of the west coast of south Florida is full of retirees who would also not want to associate with "North Cuba". But it will never happen anyways. So this is all hypotheticals.
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(10-23-2014 10:46 AM)MagicKnightmare Wrote:  
(10-22-2014 04:32 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/...x=81738348

Quote:Officials in the City of South Miami have passed a resolution in favor of splitting the state in half so South Florida would become the 51st state.

Vice Mayor Walter Harris proposed the resolution and it passed with a 3-2 vote at the city commission meeting on Oct. 7.

Harris told the commission that Tallahassee isn't providing South Florida with proper representation or addressing its concerns when it comes to sea-level rising.

[Image: 900x506]

Lets pretend for fun that this is legit, no way that line is that high. Orange and Seminole county are one metropolis. They aren't about to end up in separate states. I would Imagine that Most of the I-4 corridor would stay north and not be associated with "North Cuba". Also most of the west coast of south Florida is full of retirees who would also not want to associate with "North Cuba". But it will never happen anyways. So this is all hypotheticals.

The map here of South Florida would be more accurate:

http://mentalfloss.com/article/58789/12-...ting-apart

I can tell you my family in the Tampa Bay area want no part of North Cuba.

Also, if Chicago can split off from the rest of Illinois, I'd like Cleveland to split off from the rest of Ohio. 05-stirthepot
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(10-23-2014 08:41 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(10-22-2014 04:52 PM)Inigo Wrote:  Well if the city of South Miami can pass this "resolution" by a whopping 1 vote, I'd say it is a done deal.
Too bad I'll no longer be in the same state as UCF.

Limo Liberals trying to make a point about Global Warming and simply....05-stirthepot

Uh oh….someone is playing the “blame the liberals” card.

Look this has everything to do with politics and political grandstanding as it really has no chance in hell of every passing.

However with that said, rising sea levels is a real phenomenon and there needs to be a long term commitment to strategic planning and policy so that our coastline economic city centers of the future are prepared to respond. Miami for example is less than 5 feet above sea level. The only location in the US lower than this was New Orleans and due to Katrina we clearly now see how vulnerable they are to sea level changes.
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Put me in North Cuba!
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(10-23-2014 11:07 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(10-23-2014 08:41 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(10-22-2014 04:52 PM)Inigo Wrote:  Well if the city of South Miami can pass this "resolution" by a whopping 1 vote, I'd say it is a done deal.
Too bad I'll no longer be in the same state as UCF.

Limo Liberals trying to make a point about Global Warming and simply....05-stirthepot

Uh oh….someone is playing the “blame the liberals” card.

Look this has everything to do with politics and political grandstanding as it really has no chance in hell of every passing.

However with that said, rising sea levels is a real phenomenon and there needs to be a long term commitment to strategic planning and policy so that our coastline economic city centers of the future are prepared to respond. Miami for example is less than 5 feet above sea level. The only location in the US lower than this was New Orleans and due to Katrina we clearly now see how vulnerable they are to sea level changes.

I wonder if he would also blame the liberals for those wanting to split Texas apart. LOL

As for Florida, all it would take is the required number of signed petitions to get the measure on the ballot. Recently, the people in favor of medical marijuana obtained enough signatures to get that on the current ballot, despite the attempts of many political figures to get it thrown out in court.

If it ever came to a vote, it wouldn't surprise me if such a split passed.
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(10-23-2014 07:46 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  The sea level is not rising in Miami. They just keep pouring so much concrete that the land is sinking.

Unfortunately, the data disagrees with you.

I recall reading an article describing how some south Florida cities have had to discontinue pumping some of their drinking water wells b/c of the encroaching coastal flooding. The remarkable part of that story was that they described that flooding on Miami Beach can happen on perfect sunny days…and not due to the flooding you would expect due to storms. While I agree that the land is likely sinking as well b/c most of it not all of south Florida is built on reclaimed swamp land that is likely minor the actual rise in sea level.

The important thing is for cool heads to work on this problem and not get distracted by the ‘liberal’ alarmists or the conservative “science ”. It’s not a problem that should be punted to the next generation b/c by then it will be too late. It’s not that folks expect Miami to become the new underwater Atlantis but rather to what I mentioned above where drinking water sources are compromised b/c of rising sea levels. Sadly, the two morons running for governor in Florida have turned this into a political football and they will likely both be taking dirt naps in 40 to 50 years when the sea level is expected to rise another 3 to 5 feet.
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This is the dumbest idea I have seen come out of this state... and we have some pretty dumb ideas. Of course Miami Dade and Broward would draw the line the way they did. They essentially took the three largest economic zones and put it "their" section of the state.
It would never happen...not in a million years. Miami Dade is heavily democratic, Whereas Sarasota and Polk are historically Republican leaning... Orange and Hillsborough are heavily mixed and move back and forth. The vote would have to hit 60% and it would be soooo evenly split it would never happen.


Now the Idea of splitting California actually has some merit. There are large enough voting blocks and lines of separation that it is doable. The states would look a bit funny, but I think Cali could be split in Three.
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(10-23-2014 11:34 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  This is the dumbest idea I have seen come out of this state... and we have some pretty dumb ideas. Of course Miami Dade and Broward would draw the line the way they did. They essentially took the three largest economic zones and put it "their" section of the state.
It would never happen...not in a million years. Miami Dade is heavily democratic, Whereas Sarasota and Polk are historically Republican leaning... Orange and Hillsborough are heavily mixed and move back and forth. The vote would have to hit 60% and it would be soooo evenly split it would never happen.


Now the Idea of splitting California actually has some merit. There are large enough voting blocks and lines of separation that it is doable. The states would look a bit funny, but I think Cali could be split in Three.

agree...it's a really dumb idea to split the state...especially from the environmental angle b/c they would need the revenue and cooperation of the entire state to approve whatever regulation and infrastructure projects that need to be implemented.
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