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OT: Report: UNC athletes steered to paper classes
UNC Tarnished Heels

Over 18 year period..05-nono

Memphis got screwed for piddly stuff compared to this - banners should be coming down. 05-ban
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Exactly, and UConn got punished because we made our student athletes take real classes.
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How many of these flipping reports and scandals are going to come out of UNC before something is done about it???
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(10-22-2014 01:40 PM)justin_sane15 Wrote:  How many of these flipping reports and scandals are going to come out of UNC before something is done about it???

One could come out showing that Dean Smith himself was changing kid's grades and nothing would come of it.
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(10-22-2014 01:15 PM)PirateHeist Wrote:  UNC Tarnished Heels

Over 18 year period..05-nono

Memphis got screwed for piddly stuff compared to this - banners should be coming down. 05-ban

So the standard punishment for this type of offense would be receipt of the death penalty like what SMU got, but its a simple formula to figure out the "real" punishment.

1. Death penalty - (# of NCAA Championships X ACC membership) / Amount of money ESPN would lose = Punishment

I ran the calculation and it works out that they will receive a very harshly worded letter telling them that they are Very Very bad boys, followed by a winky face.

Don't expect more.
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(10-22-2014 01:30 PM)PirateHeist Wrote:  [Image: B0kfcRcCAAAHAlU.png:large]

Is this real? "Afri paper". How exactly can the ncaa allow unc get away with this? The university is screwing them in getting a real education and that subject line sounds racist.
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I believe that the class is the infamous "African Studies" course. Its a BS class that didn't even exist.
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RE: OT: Report: UNC athletes steered to paper classes
(10-22-2014 01:42 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(10-22-2014 01:15 PM)PirateHeist Wrote:  UNC Tarnished Heels

Over 18 year period..05-nono

Memphis got screwed for piddly stuff compared to this - banners should be coming down. 05-ban

So the standard punishment for this type of offense would be receipt of the death penalty like what SMU got, but its a simple formula to figure out the "real" punishment.

1. Death penalty - (# of NCAA Championships X ACC membership) / Amount of money ESPN would lose = Punishment

I ran the calculation and it works out that they will receive a very harshly worded letter telling them that they are Very Very bad boys, followed by a winky face.

Don't expect more.

They will also lose 1 scholarship for 1 year in some minor women's Olympic sport which had maybe a single athlete involved in the scandal over the 18 years.
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RE: OT: Report: UNC athletes steered to paper classes
(10-22-2014 01:46 PM)Inigo Wrote:  
(10-22-2014 01:42 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(10-22-2014 01:15 PM)PirateHeist Wrote:  UNC Tarnished Heels

Over 18 year period..05-nono

Memphis got screwed for piddly stuff compared to this - banners should be coming down. 05-ban

So the standard punishment for this type of offense would be receipt of the death penalty like what SMU got, but its a simple formula to figure out the "real" punishment.

1. Death penalty - (# of NCAA Championships X ACC membership) / Amount of money ESPN would lose = Punishment

I ran the calculation and it works out that they will receive a very harshly worded letter telling them that they are Very Very bad boys, followed by a winky face.

Don't expect more.

They will also lose 1 scholarship for 1 year in some minor women's Olympic sport which had maybe a single athlete involved in the scandal over the 18 years.

I think your being a bit harsh... I mean, its UNC! 01-ncaabbs
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This is going on everywhere. I know of several SEC athletes who remained eligible despite being illiterate.
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I always get amused by UNC fans who accuse UConn of cheating because of 1) an assistant of Jim Calhoun exceeded text messages to one recruit and, 2) because of basketball players not doing well in REAL classes over a two year period.

UNC deserves to have titles vacated for sure. However, the NCAA will sweep this under the rug to the best of their abilities.

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(10-22-2014 01:43 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(10-22-2014 01:30 PM)PirateHeist Wrote:  [Image: B0kfcRcCAAAHAlU.png:large]

Is this real? "Afri paper". How exactly can the ncaa allow unc get away with this? The university is screwing them in getting a real education and that subject line sounds racist.

This ^^^

What will kids do if they don't make it to the NBA!?! F*****g unreal... My
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It is impossible to identify the number of students who were enrolled in independent study paper classes because of the way course enrollments for independent studies were handled in AFAM. During the relevant time period, all students enrolled in an independent study course for a particular semester were enrolled in a single section, regardless of which professor was supervising their individual work. At the end of each semester, the grades were collected from all professors who had independent studies students, and Crowder entered all grades on the grade sheet without distinguishing between those students who were taking independent study paper classes under Nyang’oro from those who were taking legitimate independent studies. As a result, we cannot isolate which students received a traditional independent study experience (with faculty oversight) from those who had an irregular experience (with no faculty oversight and papers assigned and graded by Crowder). Based on confident assertions by Crowder and Nyang’oro that “most” of the 34 independent studies offered by AFAM during that period were irregular, however, we can reasonably assume that over 50% of the total AFAM independent studies enrollments were irregular.

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(10-22-2014 02:30 PM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  It is impossible to identify the number of students who were enrolled in independent study paper classes because of the way course enrollments for independent studies were handled in AFAM. During the relevant time period, all students enrolled in an independent study course for a particular semester were enrolled in a single section, regardless of which professor was supervising their individual work. At the end of each semester, the grades were collected from all professors who had independent studies students, and Crowder entered all grades on the grade sheet without distinguishing between those students who were taking independent study paper classes under Nyang’oro from those who were taking legitimate independent studies. As a result, we cannot isolate which students received a traditional independent study experience (with faculty oversight) from those who had an irregular experience (with no faculty oversight and papers assigned and graded by Crowder). Based on confident assertions by Crowder and Nyang’oro that “most” of the 34 independent studies offered by AFAM during that period were irregular, however, we can reasonably assume that over 50% of the total AFAM independent studies enrollments were irregular.

There is one "get out of jail free" card.

Slap in the wrist is all UNC will get... If that.
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I hear that "Clifford 101: Intro to Big Red Dogs" is now a required course for athletes at UNCheat.

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(10-22-2014 02:04 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  This is going on everywhere. I know of several SEC athletes who remained eligible despite being illiterate.

You have the WRONG ATTITUDE ABOUT THIS! It is not "...going on everywhere...." only at universities who know they will never be punished or know the punishment will be lifted after it is imposed!

The common thread is all these schools are in the CARTEL-5:
Penn State, Miami, Ohio State, Southern Cal, Fla. State, and now UNC!
IT IS TIME FOR ALL G-5 Conference Members to stand up and CONDEMN THIS CRAP!
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Foxnews is reporting that more than 3,100 students (nearly half being athletes) were partaking in this "shadow curriculum." If that is the case, not only should the NCAA take action, but also the scholastic accreditation groups and even the state of NC since this is a state funded institution.

This is disgusting.
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(10-22-2014 02:24 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  I always get amused by UNC fans who accuse UConn of cheating because of 1) an assistant of Jim Calhoun exceeded text messages to one recruit and, 2) because of basketball players not doing well in REAL classes over a two year period.

UNC deserves to have titles vacated for sure. However, the NCAA will sweep this under the rug to the best of their abilities.

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The sad thing is nothing will ever happen. They have the power of the dark side.
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