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RE: Looking back...
(10-19-2014 09:06 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 08:52 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Dude, I dont "tweet" but I have account still from what they tell me, and facebook is done completely.

However, there has never been a coed in any discussion. Not one of mine for sure.

I'm not saying that was you who named the coed. As I said a couple days ago I think you and I both know who put that up, but no, I don't think you did.

I'm just saying, entertainment is one thing, but slandering an innocent party by name, that kind of stuff is crossing the line.

Uhhh, not saying that I think that was right at all, but that wasnt a coed mentioned for the sake of accuracy here. You guys have enough self righteous hyperbole to prop yourselves up with without fabricating or exaggerating things for the purpose of drama.
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10-19-2014 10:45 PM
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RE: Looking back...
(10-19-2014 12:04 PM)Liam9903 Wrote:  Last season was worth it IF Fleck gets the program to a level its never been before i.e. 10 wins, bowl win, MACC winner. We aren't there yet though. We've all seen teams that are above .500 with lots of good players and a seemingly bright future. I don't begrudge anyone their legitimate concern after 1-11 or anything they said about the product on the field. Hopefully the progress demonstrated on the field with such a young roster alleviates concern and we as a fan base let this staff go to work without the resentment that many here have demonstrated towards them and to PJ specifically but I'm not ready to start taking victory laps at anyones expense (no matter how incessantly negative they've been).

Well said, Liam. I'm as excited as anyone, but we still have a long way to go to get to the point where just about everyone here will be satisfied. For me, the goal above all others is the MAC championship. To even have the chance to play for that this year, we would need to win out (unlikely) and Toledo would need to lose twice. They play UMass, EMU, and Kent State. Upsets happen all the time in college football, but.....no. That means they need to lose to both NIU and BG. I can't see them losing both.

This has been a great season for us, so far. Basically, we have played really well with the exception of one half at Ball State. Clearly, we are heading in the right direction. We still have a long way to go, though, and it's going to take time to get to where we all want to go.

It has been a lot of fun seeing the progress this year. I hope we finish strong, get to a bowl game somewhere, and get our first bowl victory... 04-cheers
10-19-2014 11:51 PM
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Quote:It's funny... I've heard stories about the real DB at various WMU sporting events from long-time respected posters on this board. Even the ones here who know him don't understand why he's become so staunchly invested in his current position (web board character or not).

And those Stories go like....? Do tell! :)

Quote:I've met DB several times. Like many, myself included, your internet persona is not your real life persona.

Well, I'll say this -- for better or worse (okay, no need to throw eggs) -- my persona in real life is exactly the same. I've met 1, maybe 2 people who've posted on here -- they know that. I think DB gets the juices flowing in the forums, notably when things are a bit blah, and as much as one may dislike things said -- this isn't some over-crowded arena, so that's just fine. Better than hearing crickets chirping, am I right? :)

Quote:I'm as excited as anyone, but we still have a long way to go to get to the point where just about everyone here will be satisfied.

Very true. We showed our muscle, we hooked up with a sorority girl, but that doesn't mean we're a stud. The road is still uphill, and we're just getting our feet wet (no, I'm not adding a comment to that).

Quote:For me, the goal above all others is the MAC championship.

This year? Not my Set Goal (starting in the beginning). Par for the course would be battling for .500, which we seemed to already have taken care of. GREAT would be making a bowl -- which none of us would have guessed, yet, that is a true possibility.

Quote:Basically, we have played really well with the exception of one half at Ball State.

... and our SP Teams (sans our overall punting) on many occasions.

Quote:It has been a lot of fun seeing the progress this year. I hope we finish strong, get to a bowl game somewhere, and get our first bowl victory...

I know this is a Wet Western Dream, but I would LOVE to see the Illini come roaring back to make a bowl (won't happen) -- and us, somehow playing them with Cubit on the other end.

I give our chances of making a bowl (7-5) at 25%. We'd need to go 3-for-5 the rest of the way -- which would require at least 1 win over NIU, @CMU, and Ohio -- while beating @Miami & EMU. Possible? YES. Bank on it? NO.

IF we do that, and win a bowl game on top of that -- instant Fleck Statue out of popsicle sticks will be in order.
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10-20-2014 02:23 AM
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The only reason I would care about making a bowl game is to get our young players a couple weeks extra of practice time. That's about as valuable as anything that could come out of this season.
10-20-2014 02:38 AM
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Quote:For me, the goal above all others is the MAC championship.

To that Colonel, I'll add a bowl victory. Lets get that monkey off of WMU's back.
10-20-2014 06:35 AM
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RE: Looking back...
(10-20-2014 02:23 AM)toddjnsn Wrote:  
Quote:It's funny... I've heard stories about the real DB at various WMU sporting events from long-time respected posters on this board. Even the ones here who know him don't understand why he's become so staunchly invested in his current position (web board character or not).

And those Stories go like....? Do tell! :)

Quote:I've met DB several times. Like many, myself included, your internet persona is not your real life persona.

Well, I'll say this -- for better or worse (okay, no need to throw eggs) -- my persona in real life is exactly the same. I've met 1, maybe 2 people who've posted on here -- they know that. I think DB gets the juices flowing in the forums, notably when things are a bit blah, and as much as one may dislike things said -- this isn't some over-crowded arena, so that's just fine. Better than hearing crickets chirping, am I right? :)

Quote:I'm as excited as anyone, but we still have a long way to go to get to the point where just about everyone here will be satisfied.

Very true. We showed our muscle, we hooked up with a sorority girl, but that doesn't mean we're a stud. The road is still uphill, and we're just getting our feet wet (no, I'm not adding a comment to that).

Quote:For me, the goal above all others is the MAC championship.

This year? Not my Set Goal (starting in the beginning). Par for the course would be battling for .500, which we seemed to already have taken care of. GREAT would be making a bowl -- which none of us would have guessed, yet, that is a true possibility.

Quote:Basically, we have played really well with the exception of one half at Ball State.

... and our SP Teams (sans our overall punting) on many occasions.

Quote:It has been a lot of fun seeing the progress this year. I hope we finish strong, get to a bowl game somewhere, and get our first bowl victory...

I know this is a Wet Western Dream, but I would LOVE to see the Illini come roaring back to make a bowl (won't happen) -- and us, somehow playing them with Cubit on the other end.

I give our chances of making a bowl (7-5) at 25%. We'd need to go 3-for-5 the rest of the way -- which would require at least 1 win over NIU, @CMU, and Ohio -- while beating @Miami & EMU. Possible? YES. Bank on it? NO.

IF we do that, and win a bowl game on top of that -- instant Fleck Statue out of popsicle sticks will be in order.

I'd be fine with crickets chirping vs. "I hate Fleck, rinse and repeat."

As for our chances of beating OU, MIAMI, AND EMU? 100%. If we can put 17 on the board, it's game over. Barring injuries (knock on wood), EMU and Miami might be close, but I don't think they'll ever be in doubt.

As for NIU. If Hare sp develops it will be tough, if not it might not be.

CMU? If The Felon is sentenced to jail. 100%
If we're in good shape injury wise, 50%
Thanks to the Enos factor (he can't put anyone away when he has the chance), we'll be in this game late. If we're within 7 in the 4th, 75%.

If we go into this game and Enos needs it to go 6-6, 25%.
If we're playing for our 7th or 8th win and they're trying to get to wins 40%.
If Enos is on the verge of getting fired, 90%
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(10-19-2014 08:01 PM)thegeneral Wrote:  Not crying, just trying to keep Every.Single.Thread from devolving into a pissing match. DB, to his credit, doesn't engage anymore.

I tried talking some football in this thread but it didn't stick. Go figure.
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(10-20-2014 09:48 AM)Kimbosucks Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 08:01 PM)thegeneral Wrote:  Not crying, just trying to keep Every.Single.Thread from devolving into a pissing match. DB, to his credit, doesn't engage anymore.

I tried talking some football in this thread but it didn't stick. Go figure.

Well, you tried and I thank you for that. Honestly I am tired of hearing about Fleck and his alleged transgressions. If something comes out that is consequential and proven, then John Dunn can deal with it and we'll move on.

In the meantime, I'm going to focus on Bronco football and what looks like an exciting and improving team with many talented skill players.
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(10-20-2014 08:39 AM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  As for our chances of beating OU, MIAMI, AND EMU? 100%. If we can put 17 on the board, it's game over. Barring injuries (knock on wood), EMU and Miami might be close, but I don't think they'll ever be in doubt.

As for NIU. If Hare sp develops it will be tough, if not it might not be.

CMU? If The Felon is sentenced to jail. 100%
If we're in good shape injury wise, 50%
Thanks to the Enos factor (he can't put anyone away when he has the chance), we'll be in this game late. If we're within 7 in the 4th, 75%.

If we go into this game and Enos needs it to go 6-6, 25%.
If we're playing for our 7th or 8th win and they're trying to get to wins 40%.
If Enos is on the verge of getting fired, 90%

Percentages!!! Is this stuff contagious?
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(10-20-2014 06:35 AM)Broncobelt Wrote:  
Quote:For me, the goal above all others is the MAC championship.

To that Colonel, I'll add a bowl victory. Lets get that monkey off of WMU's back.

Agree, Belt. I get annoyed seeing the EMU fans occasionally chirping here about their one bowl victory 25 years ago.

FWIW, here are the all-time bowl records of every MAC school (courtesy of Phil Steele; listed in order by total number of bowl appearances):

Toledo 8-5
Miami 7-3
BG 4-7
NIU 4-5
Ohio 2-6
CMU 3-4
Ball State 0-7
WMU 0-5
Buffalo 0-2
Kent State 0-2
EMU 1-0
Akron 0-1
UMass 0-1
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Quick correction: just noticed that BG has appeared in more bowls than Miami...
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Quote:As for our chances of beating OU, MIAMI, AND EMU? 100%.

WOW. That's a bold move. You're talking like we're in the WMU/Marshall rivalry days of 99 & 2000... I would see the EMU game at (close to) 100%, since we are geared, mean, and hungry at those green rat ba$tards, for all they did to us in the past couple years while still being the pathetic team that they are.

Ohio? Great D. Their O seems to be better. They put up over 500 yards on BGSU -- we couldn't manage 400, even with all our time soaking things up. Ohio's penalties cost them the game (a ridiculous amt of penalties).

Miami? They have an O. They lack D. We'll score on them. I would say it's 100% that we'll break the 30-pt mark -- but that's the only 100% I'd give. It's at Miami. They were the closest team to beat Marshall this year. They're an up-n-comer. They're asking for trouble. They scored 41 on NIU. If we have no turnovers, keep our penalties down, play solid and our D steps up -- yes, we will win without question. But I can't bank on that to "be what happens". I think we're obviously favored to beat them and should. But I can't put that as a "count it!"

Quote:As for NIU. If Hare sp develops it will be tough, if not it might not be.

He showed good signs against Miami. I think it was a good confidence builder, if anything. He's kinda skitzo -- but we're the last game. By that time, one should expect him to be on par. NIU has some good RBs, too. I think we won't be catching them at the right time (early MAC season).

Quote:CMU? If The Felon is sentenced to jail. 100%
If we're in good shape injury wise, 50%
Thanks to the Enos factor (he can't put anyone away when he has the chance), we'll be in this game late. If we're within 7 in the 4th, 75%.

Rawls is NOT going to jail -- it's already been settled. :) We could leave purses in their end-zone, so maybe we could squeeze out a safety or two... 03-wink

This is @CMU, remember. I put our chances to win at 25-30%, barring no injuries/issues/peak-motivators/depressing-motivators on their end.

I'm not at all trying to be Debbie-Downer -- just trying to be realistic. We are in feeling-out phase, rebuilding/gelling mode. Thankfully, so is the whole MAC it seems to one degree or another, so it allows to squeeze out some extra wins. But at the same time -- I can't jump on the Excitement Bias. My rational brain tells me No. :)

Quote:FWIW, here are the all-time bowl records of every MAC school (courtesy of Phil Steele; listed in order by total number of bowl appearances):

So, you're basically saying EMU has never lost a bowl game and is the only UNDEFEATED MAC team in post-season play? Wow! :)

Yes, the MAC is not good at bowls. I would rather play a Sun Belt team and win, rather than lose to a 6-6 ACC team that beats us by 6. BUT, at this point? I'll take what I can get.

I would say our chances of going to a bowl (7-5) are about 25%. I think one would be silly to EXPECT it -- but not silly to Hope for it.
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(10-20-2014 09:48 AM)Kimbosucks Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 08:01 PM)thegeneral Wrote:  Not crying, just trying to keep Every.Single.Thread from devolving into a pissing match. DB, to his credit, doesn't engage anymore.

I tried talking some football in this thread but it didn't stick. Go figure.

Trying to talk football in most of these threads is like trying to get a dry noodle to stick to the wall. Not going to happen.
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