The Marshall University Thundering Herd is the only team in the nation with 4 road wins.

Don't break your arm jerking yourself off!

(10-19-2014 07:19 AM)BlueRaider0x0 Wrote:  Don't break your arm jerking yourself off!

Not what this is about.

Aren't road games tougher than home games? I'd like to see consistency from critics of Marshall's schedule. Where is their criticism of teams that avoid road games?

Top 5 Notre Dame just played their first road game last night. They lost.

Marshall has gone on the road 4 times and won them all. If Marshall wins them all, they'll be the only team with six road wins.

P5 schools, think it would be easy to go undefeated with Marshall's schedule? Think you can't lose a game at some place like Akron? Try it sometime.

(10-19-2014 07:53 AM)Stick4489 Wrote:  

(10-19-2014 07:19 AM)BlueRaider0x0 Wrote:  Don't break your arm jerking yourself off!

Not what this is about.

Aren't road games tougher than home games? I'd like to see consistency from critics of Marshall's schedule. Where is their criticism of teams that avoid road games?

Top 5 Notre Dame just played their first road game last night. They lost.

Marshall has gone on the road 4 times and won them all. If Marshall wins them all, they'll be the only team with six road wins.

P5 schools, think it would be easy to go undefeated with Marshall's schedule? Think you can't lose a game at some place like Akron? Try it sometime.

FIU =/= Florida State

But very impressive by Marshall going on the road and winning. It's tougher sometimes to go play a crappy team in an empty stadium then an ok team in a full stadium on the road

Marshall has a great team. They have had a great season. Herd should be congratulated for what they have done.

Too bad the AD scheduled the 125th out of 128th hardest schedule in FBS. That is something out of the control of the players. Maybe i have missed it but don't see the Herd fans with any outrage towards him or why that was allowed to happen.

No posts or threads can 'spin it' any other way than it is/was an easy schedule. It is what it is. The optics of ECU beating a Va Tech team that lost again trumps all the Herd blowouts of bad/mediocre teams. I was flamed for saying that the majority of P5 FBS teams plus a few non P5 would be undefeated right now playing the same schedule. Probably not all by same margin of victory but point is that when you are in non-P5, you have to play a few P5 games. Nobody will know how good the Herd team really is. They are clearly the class of the conference but no signature W's so they will not get the props they deserve. Feel bad for some really talented players on that team.

http://www.fbschedules.com/2014/08/phil-...-rankings/

(10-19-2014 08:54 AM)owl40 Wrote:  Marshall has a great team. They have had a great season. Herd should be congratulated for what they have done.

Too bad the AD scheduled the 125th out of 128th hardest schedule in FBS. That is something out of the control of the players. Maybe i have missed it but don't see the Herd fans with any outrage towards him or why that was allowed to happen.

No posts or threads can 'spin it' any other way than it is/was an easy schedule. It is what it is. The optics of ECU beating a Va Tech team that lost again trumps all the Herd blowouts of bad/mediocre teams. I was flamed for saying that the majority of P5 FBS teams plus a few non P5 would be undefeated right now playing the same schedule. Probably not all by same margin of victory but point is that when you are in non-P5, you have to play a few P5 games. Nobody will know how good the Herd team really is. They are clearly the class of the conference but no signature W's so they will not get the props they deserve. Feel bad for some really talented players on that team.

http://www.fbschedules.com/2014/08/phil-...-rankings/

Our AD scheduled a good USM team, a regional rival in Ohio and Miami OH, a decent Akron team, ECU, UCF, Louisville.

We were given 3 crappy MAC teams, a terrible USM, Old Dominion, FIU, FAU, and Rhode Island instead.

The Louisville game was out of their control. I think that is why the AD isn't catching crap.

I agree with you that many p5 teams would roll through that schedule though. I'd say at least half could make it through undefeated.

I have always said their is something to being undefeated though. If the p5 teams keep dropping, it's going to be very interesting to see where Marshall and ECU enter the equation. I'm sure they will at least be discussed by the selection committee.

(10-19-2014 08:54 AM)owl40 Wrote:  Marshall has a great team. They have had a great season. Herd should be congratulated for what they have done.

Too bad the AD scheduled the 125th out of 128th hardest schedule in FBS. That is something out of the control of the players. Maybe i have missed it but don't see the Herd fans with any outrage towards him or why that was allowed to happen.

No posts or threads can 'spin it' any other way than it is/was an easy schedule. It is what it is. The optics of ECU beating a Va Tech team that lost again trumps all the Herd blowouts of bad/mediocre teams. I was flamed for saying that the majority of P5 FBS teams plus a few non P5 would be undefeated right now playing the same schedule. Probably not all by same margin of victory but point is that when you are in non-P5, you have to play a few P5 games. Nobody will know how good the Herd team really is. They are clearly the class of the conference but no signature W's so they will not get the props they deserve. Feel bad for some really talented players on that team.

http://www.fbschedules.com/2014/08/phil-...-rankings/

For the umpteenth thousandth time: Marshall, just a little over a year ago, had NO FCS on the schedule and had Louisville slated as a home game. Our OOC was to be Lousiville, Akron, Ohio, and MiamiOH. Louisville joined the ACC (was in the Big East as FBS when this game was scheduled). The ACC schedule demanded they drop 1 OOC for a conference game. They talked to our AD and rather than just buying us out (which they would have done) they agreed to come to Huntington in 2016 and gave us a basketball game.

This left the Herd with 5 home games. Try though they might they could not complete a deal giving us that sixth home game as all other available P5 teams would not come here first or wanted a 3 for 1. So, Rhode Island was added to the schedule within a year's notice. There wasn't much to be done about it in such short notice. Blame realignment, not our AD. The revenue from the home game outweighed the net gain from a body bag game. We have P5 scheduled every year before and after this year. This was a special circumstance CAUSED BY REALIGNMENT. It is what it is.

Perhaps someone in conference besides us could have stepped up this year and then would have been a "signature win." You know what they say about not being part of the solution....

(10-19-2014 09:15 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  The Louisville game was out of their control. I think that is why the AD isn't catching crap.

I agree with you that many p5 teams would roll through that schedule though. I'd say at least half could make it through undefeated.

I have always said their is something to being undefeated though. If the p5 teams keep dropping, it's going to be very interesting to see where Marshall and ECU enter the equation. I'm sure they will at least be discussed by the selection committee.

P5 schools lose to G5 all the time... I don't think "more than half" would go 12-0 against our schedule.

No they don't. Have you looked at that sticky thread on our main board?

I also said at least half, not more than half. Way to quote that. And if you don't want to believe it, that's fine. I'm not going to sit here and argue over something that you don't want to see or hear. Bottom line is all you can do is win the games on your schedule. Unfortunately, that probably won't be enough.

(10-19-2014 09:26 AM)fedale Wrote:  

(10-19-2014 09:15 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  The Louisville game was out of their control. I think that is why the AD isn't catching crap.

I agree with you that many p5 teams would roll through that schedule though. I'd say at least half could make it through undefeated.

I have always said their is something to being undefeated though. If the p5 teams keep dropping, it's going to be very interesting to see where Marshall and ECU enter the equation. I'm sure they will at least be discussed by the selection committee.

P5 schools lose to G5 all the time... I don't think "more than half" would go 12-0 against our schedule.

Some people buy into ESPiN's contention that there is this great divide between P5 and G5, starting with the worst P5 vs the best G5. It simply isn't the case. The overlap starts somewhere around #10 - #12. Meaning that the G5 #1 would be equal to P5 #10-#12 on a neutral field. Occasionally, it's a little worse and, occasionally, it's a little better.

Pitt that beat VT lost to Akron, who is on our schedule. I think his contention that half the P5 teams would be undefeated with four games on the road and our schedule is ridiculous. They need to get off the P5 teet and stop buying into the bull****.

And don't forget the teams of the CUSA fans saying that ARE on our schedule. He's saying fully half the P5 could not only beat his favorite team, but also all the other teams in conference, playing half of them on the road. It's brainwashing. There is no other explanation for it.

(10-19-2014 09:15 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  The Louisville game was out of their control. I think that is why the AD isn't catching crap.

I agree with you that many p5 teams would roll through that schedule though. I'd say at least half could make it through undefeated.

I have always said their is something to being undefeated though. If the p5 teams keep dropping, it's going to be very interesting to see where Marshall and ECU enter the equation. I'm sure they will at least be discussed by the selection committee.

Except he just said "OK let's do that". I think at that point he would know if Marshall was going to be good. He obviously did, and decided instead of taking the possibility of Louisville not paying up, and having to play them anyway, he just let them move the game for free.

It's not f'ing brainwashing, it's having a brain. I didn't say these teams could beat Marshall, I said they could beat the teams on marshalls schedule. Your schedule sucks, I'm sorry if that offends you. I think you guys have a great team, but don't get to prove it. At the end of the year is you big win going to be Akron?

(10-19-2014 09:41 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(10-19-2014 09:15 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  The Louisville game was out of their control. I think that is why the AD isn't catching crap.

I agree with you that many p5 teams would roll through that schedule though. I'd say at least half could make it through undefeated.

I have always said their is something to being undefeated though. If the p5 teams keep dropping, it's going to be very interesting to see where Marshall and ECU enter the equation. I'm sure they will at least be discussed by the selection committee.

Except he just said "OK let's do that". I think at that point he would know if Marshall was going to be good. He obviously did, and decided instead of taking the possibility of Louisville not paying up, and having to play them anyway, he just let them move the game for free.

Still got the home game AND got a basketball game out of the deal, instead of just buying us out and creating bad blood. That's far from free. They will remember that we chose to help them and that could pay dividends with them and other ACC teams, helping future scheduling with teams like, oh I don't know, Pitt and NCState. Oh yeah, we just signed deals with them.

We knew they would buy us out. They haven't beat us in 30+ years. We were the game getting removed anyway we tried it.

(10-19-2014 09:45 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  It's not f'ing brainwashing, it's having a brain. I didn't say these teams could beat Marshall, I said they could beat the teams on marshalls schedule. Your schedule sucks, I'm sorry if that offends you. I think you guys have a great team, but don't get to prove it. At the end of the year is you big win going to be Akron?

I didn't say they would beat Marshall either. I was pointing out that YOU GUYS are on our schedule. You kept the score closer with the #1 team in the country than any other team at their place. You think 30 other P5 teams would have beat you in Birmingham if you played like that? Brainwashing. Hell, we don't want to play you in Birmingham. Stop selling your own team short and they would have to beat you to go undefeated, as do we. That's what I mean by buying into ESPN's bull****.

Losing by 13 to MSU doesn't mean ****. I wish people would stop with that. We were down 3 scored most of the second half, and they were never in danger of losing that game. We destroyed them with some long balls that we haven't seen since. In also sure they had a very vanilla game plan. Dak got 5 yards any time he wanted against us. But the bottom line is we lost. I don't like moral victories.

I'm not selling my team short, I am telling it like it is. You think we are going to go take Arkansas down this week? And they are what, 10th or so in the sec? Nobody in our conference beat a power 5 team this year. Zero. And we had many, many opportunities. Im not buying into the last place team in power 5 conferences can beat any G5 team, but I am saying their top half could win every game on your schedule.

(10-19-2014 10:09 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  Losing by 13 to MSU doesn't mean ****. I wish people would stop with that. We were down 3 scored most of the second half, and they were never in danger of losing that game. We destroyed them with some long balls that we haven't seen since. In also sure they had a very vanilla game plan. Dak got 5 yards any time he wanted against us. But the bottom line is we lost. I don't like moral victories.

I'm not selling my team short, I am telling it like it is. You think we are going to go take Arkansas down this week? And they are what, 10th or so in the sec? Nobody in our conference beat a power 5 team this year. Zero. And we had many, many opportunities. Im not buying into the last place team in power 5 conferences can beat any G5 team, but I am saying their top half could win every game on your schedule.

Don't worry.

I wish someone better than UAB was on our schedule, too.

(10-19-2014 09:47 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(10-19-2014 09:41 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(10-19-2014 09:15 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  The Louisville game was out of their control. I think that is why the AD isn't catching crap.

I agree with you that many p5 teams would roll through that schedule though. I'd say at least half could make it through undefeated.

I have always said their is something to being undefeated though. If the p5 teams keep dropping, it's going to be very interesting to see where Marshall and ECU enter the equation. I'm sure they will at least be discussed by the selection committee.

Except he just said "OK let's do that". I think at that point he would know if Marshall was going to be good. He obviously did, and decided instead of taking the possibility of Louisville not paying up, and having to play them anyway, he just let them move the game for free.

Still got the home game AND got a basketball game out of the deal, instead of just buying us out and creating bad blood. That's far from free. They will remember that we chose to help them and that could pay dividends with them and other ACC teams, helping future scheduling with teams like, oh I don't know, Pitt and NCState. Oh yeah, we just signed deals with them.

We knew they would buy us out. They haven't beat us in 30+ years. We were the game getting removed anyway we tried it.

Basketball games are scheduled by the coaches. All they did was move the game for free, and hamrick wet himself at the opportunity. Pitt, and State definitely care about friendships right? Debbie only schedules crappy G5 schools, not sure if take that as a compliment. You tout Pitt and State like they're SEC teams. State eternally sucks, and Pitt is having their year of the century. You have beat them in once in 10 years, and if you think Louisville was good before 2007ish you need to go home.