The last two weeks you all have looked like the team we thought you would be at the start of the year.

I wasn't watching the game, how did each team look?

(10-17-2014 10:39 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  I wasn't watching the game, how did each team look?

Still on 9pm eastern kick. UH playing well

(10-17-2014 10:43 PM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  

(10-17-2014 10:39 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  I wasn't watching the game, how did each team look?

Still on 9pm eastern kick. UH playing well

Yeah, unfortunately I can't stay up. I have to get up super early to drive a few hours to be able to tailgate for the UCF game. Damn noon games

UH looks like a complete team. Temple looked good at times during the game but had a few calls go against them and have turned the ball over too much.

If Temple cleans a few things up from this game they will give ECU and everyone else on their schedule a good game I think.

Ward is awesome.

Houston might have the best defense in the league.

I dont understand what happened in week one.

No, I don't believe we got it going just yet... I think our offense isn't clicking as should be, IMO.

(10-17-2014 11:12 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Ward is awesome.

Houston might have the best defense in the league.

I dont understand what happened in week one.

Neither do we.

Still trying to figure what kind of genius moved Ward to WR and punt returner. We are 100% better with him running the show. He can overcome our horrible offensive coaching staff.

(10-18-2014 01:30 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Still trying to figure what kind of genius moved Ward to WR and punt returner. We are 100% better with him running the show. He can overcome our horrible offensive coaching staff.

I think you need to give your coaches a break on this one…O'korn was coming off a pretty good Freshman season and looked to be the clear starter at the QB spot….Ward has so much talent you can not leave him on the bench, they had to find a way to get him on the field which was the right thing to do.

Right now Ward is a damn good scat back playing QB…He is not beating teams with his arm but rather his legs. Your Oline is struggling in pass pro this year and O'Korn did not have the athletic ability to avoid the rush and complete passes down field. I still think O'Korn is probably the best true "QB" option you have but he can not function with your current Oline situation so it was a smart move to put Ward in the game…Reminds me a lot of Godfrey a few years ago at UCF.

It will be interesting to see how Ward performs when/if a team can keep him in the pocket and make him win the game from the pocket passing the ball.

(10-17-2014 11:12 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Ward is awesome.

Houston might have the best defense in the league.

I dont understand what happened in week one.

Not so sure about that…They are probably one of the most aggressive which leads to a lot of turnovers and sacks but they also give up a lot of big plays as well. Temple kept shooting themselves in the foot down in the red zone….Should have been a pretty darn close game if Temple would have held onto the ball and not had so many darn penalties.

(10-18-2014 05:48 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(10-17-2014 11:12 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Ward is awesome.

Houston might have the best defense in the league.

I dont understand what happened in week one.

Not so sure about that…They are probably one of the most aggressive which leads to a lot of turnovers and sacks but they also give up a lot of big plays as well. Temple kept shooting themselves in the foot down in the red zone….Should have been a pretty darn close game if Temple would have held onto the ball and not had so many darn penalties.

weve shut down everyone we've played this year to season lows..

temple had a total of 3 big plays which accouted for 85% of their offensive production for the whole game. and 2 was being caught in a screen on a blitz which happens, they tried that same screen like 3 other times in the game and lost yards..

and ps we regularly allow almost no big plays

the arguably better defenses are ucf and memphis..and im bias but i put houston over both right now..ucf destroyed by an above average (but not that great) mizzou and made byu's new qb look legit on his first start..

(ps im sure you want to argue ecu but hasn't statistical or eyetest looked like the best)

(10-18-2014 06:17 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 05:48 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(10-17-2014 11:12 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Ward is awesome.

Houston might have the best defense in the league.

I dont understand what happened in week one.

Not so sure about that…They are probably one of the most aggressive which leads to a lot of turnovers and sacks but they also give up a lot of big plays as well. Temple kept shooting themselves in the foot down in the red zone….Should have been a pretty darn close game if Temple would have held onto the ball and not had so many darn penalties.

weve shut down everyone we've played this year to season lows..

temple had a total of 3 big plays which accouted for 85% of their offensive production for the whole game. and 2 was being caught in a screen on a blitz which happens, they tried that same screen like 3 other times in the game and lost yards..

and ps we regularly allow almost no big plays

the arguably better defenses are ucf and memphis..and im bias but i put houston over both right now..ucf destroyed by an above average (but not that great) mizzou and made byu's new qb look legit on his first start..

(ps im sure you want to argue ecu but haan't statistical or eyetest looked like the best)

Here are the stats for the AAC if you're curious:

Scoring defense
1 Temple 17.2
2 Houston 17.9
3 Memphis 20.8
4 UCF 21.4
5 East Carolina 23.8
6 Connecticut 25.7
7 South Florida 28.8
8 Tulane 29.5
9 Cincinnati 40.8
10 Tulsa 41.2
11 SMU 49.4

Yards per game
1 Connecticut 325
2 Houston 327.6
3 UCF 335.8
4 Temple 345.3
5 Memphis 357.2
6 East Carolina 363.8
7 Tulane 389.7
8 South Florida 406.7
9 Tulsa 508.7
10 SMU 557
11 Cincinnati 573.6

We won't know for sure which defense is the best until the end of the year, but for now the stats favor Houston as the top defense.

(10-18-2014 01:30 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Still trying to figure what kind of genius moved Ward to WR and punt returner. We are 100% better with him running the show. He can overcome our horrible offensive coaching staff.

Well, UH did have a returning true Soph that performed pretty darn well at QB last year as a replacement/part-time starters as O'Korn threw for almost 3,200 when he started out as the #3 QB last August...and coaches probably thought O'Korn would only improve...however, he has regressed...hence Ward is in the picture now.

Every "couch" coach is 100% right AFTER the fact...something those that actually do the coaching of real games can't do. (Hence why none of the "couch coaches" are being paid Millions of of $$$).

(10-18-2014 06:27 AM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 06:17 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 05:48 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(10-17-2014 11:12 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Ward is awesome.

Houston might have the best defense in the league.

I dont understand what happened in week one.

Not so sure about that…They are probably one of the most aggressive which leads to a lot of turnovers and sacks but they also give up a lot of big plays as well. Temple kept shooting themselves in the foot down in the red zone….Should have been a pretty darn close game if Temple would have held onto the ball and not had so many darn penalties.

weve shut down everyone we've played this year to season lows..

temple had a total of 3 big plays which accouted for 85% of their offensive production for the whole game. and 2 was being caught in a screen on a blitz which happens, they tried that same screen like 3 other times in the game and lost yards..

and ps we regularly allow almost no big plays

the arguably better defenses are ucf and memphis..and im bias but i put houston over both right now..ucf destroyed by an above average (but not that great) mizzou and made byu's new qb look legit on his first start..

(ps im sure you want to argue ecu but haan't statistical or eyetest looked like the best)

Here are the stats for the AAC if you're curious:

Scoring defense
1 Temple 17.2
2 Houston 17.9
3 Memphis 20.8
4 UCF 21.4
5 East Carolina 23.8
6 Connecticut 25.7
7 South Florida 28.8
8 Tulane 29.5
9 Cincinnati 40.8
10 Tulsa 41.2
11 SMU 49.4

Yards per game
1 Connecticut 325
2 Houston 327.6
3 UCF 335.8
4 Temple 345.3
5 Memphis 357.2
6 East Carolina 363.8
7 Tulane 389.7
8 South Florida 406.7
9 Tulsa 508.7
10 SMU 557
11 Cincinnati 573.6

We won't know for sure which defense is the best until the end of the year, but for now the stats favor Houston as the top defense.

Well lets be honest…Houston really has not played a lot of offensive juggernauts so far this season and there has not been a single P5 school on their schedule to date. They did play a pretty good offensive team in BYU but they gave up 33 points and allowed 523 yards of offense. They also gave up the 2nd most points UTSA has scored all season.

I think they have a decent defense just not ready to crown them the best in the league…can not go by national statistics because of all the different schedules out there. At the end of the year you can take a look at the numbers in conference games to get some better comparative statistics.

(10-18-2014 06:55 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 01:30 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Still trying to figure what kind of genius moved Ward to WR and punt returner. We are 100% better with him running the show. He can overcome our horrible offensive coaching staff.

Well, UH did have a returning true Soph that performed pretty darn well at QB last year as a replacement/part-time starters as O'Korn threw for almost 3,200 when he started out as the #3 QB last August...and coaches probably thought O'Korn would only improve...however, he has regressed...hence Ward is in the picture now.

Every "couch" coach is 100% right AFTER the fact...something those that actually do the coaching of real games can't do. (Hence why none of the "couch coaches" are being paid Millions of of $$$).

I think some a lot of O'Korn's problems are directly related to the oline play…They have struggled with pass protection thus the need for someone at QB who can run very well.

(10-18-2014 08:14 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 06:27 AM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 06:17 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 05:48 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(10-17-2014 11:12 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Ward is awesome.

Houston might have the best defense in the league.

I dont understand what happened in week one.

Not so sure about that…They are probably one of the most aggressive which leads to a lot of turnovers and sacks but they also give up a lot of big plays as well. Temple kept shooting themselves in the foot down in the red zone….Should have been a pretty darn close game if Temple would have held onto the ball and not had so many darn penalties.

weve shut down everyone we've played this year to season lows..

temple had a total of 3 big plays which accouted for 85% of their offensive production for the whole game. and 2 was being caught in a screen on a blitz which happens, they tried that same screen like 3 other times in the game and lost yards..

and ps we regularly allow almost no big plays

the arguably better defenses are ucf and memphis..and im bias but i put houston over both right now..ucf destroyed by an above average (but not that great) mizzou and made byu's new qb look legit on his first start..

(ps im sure you want to argue ecu but haan't statistical or eyetest looked like the best)

Here are the stats for the AAC if you're curious:

Scoring defense
1 Temple 17.2
2 Houston 17.9
3 Memphis 20.8
4 UCF 21.4
5 East Carolina 23.8
6 Connecticut 25.7
7 South Florida 28.8
8 Tulane 29.5
9 Cincinnati 40.8
10 Tulsa 41.2
11 SMU 49.4

Yards per game
1 Connecticut 325
2 Houston 327.6
3 UCF 335.8
4 Temple 345.3
5 Memphis 357.2
6 East Carolina 363.8
7 Tulane 389.7
8 South Florida 406.7
9 Tulsa 508.7
10 SMU 557
11 Cincinnati 573.6

We won't know for sure which defense is the best until the end of the year, but for now the stats favor Houston as the top defense.

Well lets be honest…Houston really has not played a lot of offensive juggernauts so far this season and there has not been a single P5 school on their schedule to date. They did play a pretty good offensive team in BYU but they gave up 33 points and allowed 523 yards of offense. They also gave up the 2nd most points UTSA has scored all season.

I think they have a decent defense just not ready to crown them the best in the league…can not go by national statistics because of all the different schedules out there. At the end of the year you can take a look at the numbers in conference games to get some better comparative statistics.

we only allowed 27 to utsa on 6 turnovers, 5 of which was inside our own territory, utsa only scored on a full field once

and we gave up some yards versu byu but we held them to their least amount of points with taysom hill as starter for a full game..ps they played 2 legit defenses in texas and virgina with hill still healthy.

and you can want to throw out the P5 label to get some kinda of unnecessary bias in the air but byu with taysom hill is a better offense than unc, vt, and south carolina

who would you crown as the best then?

(10-18-2014 08:14 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  Well lets be honest…Houston really has not played a lot of offensive juggernauts so far this season and there has not been a single P5 school on their schedule to date. They did play a pretty good offensive team in BYU but they gave up 33 points and allowed 523 yards of offense. They also gave up the 2nd most points UTSA has scored all season.

When your offense is constantly 3 and out (or shorter due to turnovers), you try staying composed and fresh on defense.

(10-18-2014 08:14 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 06:27 AM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 06:17 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 05:48 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(10-17-2014 11:12 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Ward is awesome.

Houston might have the best defense in the league.

I dont understand what happened in week one.

Not so sure about that…They are probably one of the most aggressive which leads to a lot of turnovers and sacks but they also give up a lot of big plays as well. Temple kept shooting themselves in the foot down in the red zone….Should have been a pretty darn close game if Temple would have held onto the ball and not had so many darn penalties.

weve shut down everyone we've played this year to season lows..

temple had a total of 3 big plays which accouted for 85% of their offensive production for the whole game. and 2 was being caught in a screen on a blitz which happens, they tried that same screen like 3 other times in the game and lost yards..

and ps we regularly allow almost no big plays

the arguably better defenses are ucf and memphis..and im bias but i put houston over both right now..ucf destroyed by an above average (but not that great) mizzou and made byu's new qb look legit on his first start..

(ps im sure you want to argue ecu but haan't statistical or eyetest looked like the best)

Here are the stats for the AAC if you're curious:

Scoring defense
1 Temple 17.2
2 Houston 17.9
3 Memphis 20.8
4 UCF 21.4
5 East Carolina 23.8
6 Connecticut 25.7
7 South Florida 28.8
8 Tulane 29.5
9 Cincinnati 40.8
10 Tulsa 41.2
11 SMU 49.4

Yards per game
1 Connecticut 325
2 Houston 327.6
3 UCF 335.8
4 Temple 345.3
5 Memphis 357.2
6 East Carolina 363.8
7 Tulane 389.7
8 South Florida 406.7
9 Tulsa 508.7
10 SMU 557
11 Cincinnati 573.6

We won't know for sure which defense is the best until the end of the year, but for now the stats favor Houston as the top defense.

Well lets be honest…Houston really has not played a lot of offensive juggernauts so far this season and there has not been a single P5 school on their schedule to date. They did play a pretty good offensive team in BYU but they gave up 33 points and allowed 523 yards of offense. They also gave up the 2nd most points UTSA has scored all season.

I think they have a decent defense just not ready to crown them the best in the league…can not go by national statistics because of all the different schedules out there. At the end of the year you can take a look at the numbers in conference games to get some better comparative statistics.

Houston's defense is better than ours

(10-18-2014 08:35 AM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 08:14 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 06:27 AM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 06:17 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 05:48 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  Not so sure about that…They are probably one of the most aggressive which leads to a lot of turnovers and sacks but they also give up a lot of big plays as well. Temple kept shooting themselves in the foot down in the red zone….Should have been a pretty darn close game if Temple would have held onto the ball and not had so many darn penalties.

weve shut down everyone we've played this year to season lows..

temple had a total of 3 big plays which accouted for 85% of their offensive production for the whole game. and 2 was being caught in a screen on a blitz which happens, they tried that same screen like 3 other times in the game and lost yards..

and ps we regularly allow almost no big plays

the arguably better defenses are ucf and memphis..and im bias but i put houston over both right now..ucf destroyed by an above average (but not that great) mizzou and made byu's new qb look legit on his first start..

(ps im sure you want to argue ecu but haan't statistical or eyetest looked like the best)

Here are the stats for the AAC if you're curious:

Scoring defense
1 Temple 17.2
2 Houston 17.9
3 Memphis 20.8
4 UCF 21.4
5 East Carolina 23.8
6 Connecticut 25.7
7 South Florida 28.8
8 Tulane 29.5
9 Cincinnati 40.8
10 Tulsa 41.2
11 SMU 49.4

Yards per game
1 Connecticut 325
2 Houston 327.6
3 UCF 335.8
4 Temple 345.3
5 Memphis 357.2
6 East Carolina 363.8
7 Tulane 389.7
8 South Florida 406.7
9 Tulsa 508.7
10 SMU 557
11 Cincinnati 573.6

We won't know for sure which defense is the best until the end of the year, but for now the stats favor Houston as the top defense.

Well lets be honest…Houston really has not played a lot of offensive juggernauts so far this season and there has not been a single P5 school on their schedule to date. They did play a pretty good offensive team in BYU but they gave up 33 points and allowed 523 yards of offense. They also gave up the 2nd most points UTSA has scored all season.

I think they have a decent defense just not ready to crown them the best in the league…can not go by national statistics because of all the different schedules out there. At the end of the year you can take a look at the numbers in conference games to get some better comparative statistics.

Houston's defense is better than ours

Never said it was not…As a matter of fact I never brought ECU's defense up. When comparing the two schedules and looking at the statistics to date I would not say that as fact at this point. They could be but let see how the conference slate works out.