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(10-20-2014 07:52 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 07:47 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  RC didn't get here until 96. Our problems go back to the 60s maybe even further.

In the 60s I seem to recall that Memphis football was bigger than Memphis basketball.

Yup. When Spook Murphy was coach, especially in the early '60s, Memphis football was great, ranked, competitive with the biggest schools, had multiple All-Americans, went undefeated one season.

Meanwhile, Moe Iba showed up later that decade, and basketball sank to maybe its lowest point ever, something like 2 straight 6-win seasons, in the late '60s
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(10-20-2014 07:52 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 07:47 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  RC didn't get here until 96. Our problems go back to the 60s maybe even further.

In the 60s I seem to recall that Memphis football was bigger than Memphis basketball.

I could be wrong but if you went 9-0-1 in football back in the early 60s, that was consider great. In fact, after looking it up on gotigersgo.com, the worst season that the Tigers had in the 60's was in 1964 when they went 5-4.

But it's crazy to think that just a field goal would made that undefeated team 10-0. They tied with Ole Miss, 0-0.
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(10-20-2014 08:58 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 07:52 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 07:47 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  RC didn't get here until 96. Our problems go back to the 60s maybe even further.

In the 60s I seem to recall that Memphis football was bigger than Memphis basketball.

Yup. When Spook Murphy was coach, especially in the early '60s, Memphis football was great, ranked, competitive with the biggest schools, had multiple All-Americans, went undefeated one season.

Meanwhile, Moe Iba showed up later that decade, and basketball sank to maybe its lowest point ever, something like 2 straight 6-win seasons, in the late '60s

6 wins... Were we at least competitive? Did we lose games like 50-48 or were they just getting blown out of the gym like there was no tomorrow?
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Problem was we didn't get a bowl invite with a 9-0-1 record. Evidently our AD wasn't worth a flip back then either
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(10-20-2014 09:07 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Problem was we didn't get a bowl invite with a 9-0-1 record. Evidently our AD wasn't worth a flip back then either

That's b/c you had to be a conference champ, and we weren't in a conference then for football, IIRC. That was back when bowl bids were scarce.
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I agree we should've gotten an invite, but back then there was only something like 7 bowls--Rose, Cotton, Sugar, Orange, Gator, Liberty, and Bluebonnet. And the Rose of course had its Pac-12/B1G tie in. Some of the others may have as well--I believe the Cotton was SWC champ.

So, it was kind of limited.
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(10-20-2014 09:09 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 09:07 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Problem was we didn't get a bowl invite with a 9-0-1 record. Evidently our AD wasn't worth a flip back then either

That's b/c you had to be a conference champ, and we weren't in a conference then for football, IIRC. That was back when bowl bids were scarce.


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1964-01-01 Cotton Bowl Texas 28 Navy 6 Cotton Bowl (Dallas, TX)
1964-01-01 Orange Bowl Nebraska 13 Auburn 7 Orange Bowl (Miami, FL)
1964-01-01 Rose Bowl Illinois 17 Washington 7 Rose Bowl (Pasadena, CA)
1964-01-01 Sugar Bowl Alabama 12 Mississippi 7 Sugar Bowl (New Orleans, LA)
1963-12-31 Sun Bowl Oregon 21 Southern Methodist 14 Sun Bowl (El Paso, TX)
1963-12-28 Gator Bowl North Carolina 35 Air Force 0 Gator Bowl (Jacksonville, FL)
1963-12-28 Tangerine Bowl Western Kentucky 27 Coast Guard 0 Tangerine Bowl (Orlando, FL)
1963-12-21 Bluebonnet Bowl Baylor 14 Louisiana State 7 Bluebonnet Bowl (Houston, TX)
1963-12-21 Liberty Bowl Mississippi State 16 North Carolina State 12 Liberty Bowl (Philadelphia, PA)



Looks like half the sec were in bowls that year. The Sugar bowl had two teams
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(10-20-2014 09:02 AM)KendallC Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 08:58 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 07:52 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 07:47 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  RC didn't get here until 96. Our problems go back to the 60s maybe even further.

In the 60s I seem to recall that Memphis football was bigger than Memphis basketball.

Yup. When Spook Murphy was coach, especially in the early '60s, Memphis football was great, ranked, competitive with the biggest schools, had multiple All-Americans, went undefeated one season.

Meanwhile, Moe Iba showed up later that decade, and basketball sank to maybe its lowest point ever, something like 2 straight 6-win seasons, in the late '60s

6 wins... Were we at least competitive? Did we lose games like 50-48 or were they just getting blown out of the gym like there was no tomorrow?

No, we didn't get blown out much. We just couldn't win. We had some good players, like Mike Butler. Moe Iba just sucked as a coach. I mean, we lost twice to Union, which was an NAIA school.

Moe went 17-9 his first year, with Dean Ehlers' players, then won 8, 6 and 6, before he got fired.
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(10-20-2014 09:20 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 09:02 AM)KendallC Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 08:58 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 07:52 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 07:47 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  RC didn't get here until 96. Our problems go back to the 60s maybe even further.

In the 60s I seem to recall that Memphis football was bigger than Memphis basketball.

Yup. When Spook Murphy was coach, especially in the early '60s, Memphis football was great, ranked, competitive with the biggest schools, had multiple All-Americans, went undefeated one season.

Meanwhile, Moe Iba showed up later that decade, and basketball sank to maybe its lowest point ever, something like 2 straight 6-win seasons, in the late '60s

6 wins... Were we at least competitive? Did we lose games like 50-48 or were they just getting blown out of the gym like there was no tomorrow?

No, we didn't get blown out much. We just couldn't win. We had some good players, like Mike Butler. Moe Iba just sucked as a coach. I mean, we lost twice to Union, which was an NAIA school.

Moe went 17-9 his first year, with Dean Ehlers' players, then won 8, 6 and 6, before he got fired.

At least he was able to sign Finch and Robinson. Thank God he didn't get to coach them doe
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(10-20-2014 09:12 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 09:09 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 09:07 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Problem was we didn't get a bowl invite with a 9-0-1 record. Evidently our AD wasn't worth a flip back then either

That's b/c you had to be a conference champ, and we weren't in a conference then for football, IIRC. That was back when bowl bids were scarce.


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1964-01-01 Orange Bowl Nebraska 13 Auburn 7 Orange Bowl (Miami, FL)
1964-01-01 Rose Bowl Illinois 17 Washington 7 Rose Bowl (Pasadena, CA)
1964-01-01 Sugar Bowl Alabama 12 Mississippi 7 Sugar Bowl (New Orleans, LA)
1963-12-31 Sun Bowl Oregon 21 Southern Methodist 14 Sun Bowl (El Paso, TX)
1963-12-28 Gator Bowl North Carolina 35 Air Force 0 Gator Bowl (Jacksonville, FL)
1963-12-28 Tangerine Bowl Western Kentucky 27 Coast Guard 0 Tangerine Bowl (Orlando, FL)
1963-12-21 Bluebonnet Bowl Baylor 14 Louisiana State 7 Bluebonnet Bowl (Houston, TX)
1963-12-21 Liberty Bowl Mississippi State 16 North Carolina State 12 Liberty Bowl (Philadelphia, PA)



Looks like half the sec were in bowls that year. The Sugar bowl had two teams

I said IF I RECALL CORRECTLY. That was too long ago to remember the details, but sometime around that era, you had to be a conference champ to get to the biggest bowls, and there weren't many other games. Plus, look at your list. Nine bowls. The highest we were ever rated was #14, in 1963, so it was always going to be a struggle to get a bowl game.

Also, it was political, too. The best teams didn't always get invited, especially if they were independent.

The point is, you were assuming we weren't good back then, b/c we didn't go to bowl games, and that's not the case.

P.S. Maybe the champ thing was basketball back then, rather than football. Doesn't matter. We were still damn good in football for the '60s and into the early '70s.
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(10-20-2014 09:26 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 09:12 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 09:09 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 09:07 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Problem was we didn't get a bowl invite with a 9-0-1 record. Evidently our AD wasn't worth a flip back then either

That's b/c you had to be a conference champ, and we weren't in a conference then for football, IIRC. That was back when bowl bids were scarce.


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1964-01-01 Cotton Bowl Texas 28 Navy 6 Cotton Bowl (Dallas, TX)
1964-01-01 Orange Bowl Nebraska 13 Auburn 7 Orange Bowl (Miami, FL)
1964-01-01 Rose Bowl Illinois 17 Washington 7 Rose Bowl (Pasadena, CA)
1964-01-01 Sugar Bowl Alabama 12 Mississippi 7 Sugar Bowl (New Orleans, LA)
1963-12-31 Sun Bowl Oregon 21 Southern Methodist 14 Sun Bowl (El Paso, TX)
1963-12-28 Gator Bowl North Carolina 35 Air Force 0 Gator Bowl (Jacksonville, FL)
1963-12-28 Tangerine Bowl Western Kentucky 27 Coast Guard 0 Tangerine Bowl (Orlando, FL)
1963-12-21 Bluebonnet Bowl Baylor 14 Louisiana State 7 Bluebonnet Bowl (Houston, TX)
1963-12-21 Liberty Bowl Mississippi State 16 North Carolina State 12 Liberty Bowl (Philadelphia, PA)



Looks like half the sec were in bowls that year. The Sugar bowl had two teams

I said IF I RECALL CORRECTLY. That was too long ago to remember the details, but sometime around that era, you had to be a conference champ to get to the biggest bowls, and there weren't many other games. Plus, look at your list. Nine bowls. The highest we were ever rated was #14, in 1963, so it was always going to be a struggle to get a bowl game.

Also, it was political, too. The best teams didn't always get invited, especially if they were independent.

The point is, you were assuming we weren't good back then, b/c we didn't go to bowl games, and that's not the case.

I always heard the Bear made up most of the bowl matchups back then. I'm also thinking Spook wasn't much of a Schmoozer either.
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(10-20-2014 09:28 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 09:26 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 09:12 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 09:09 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 09:07 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Problem was we didn't get a bowl invite with a 9-0-1 record. Evidently our AD wasn't worth a flip back then either

That's b/c you had to be a conference champ, and we weren't in a conference then for football, IIRC. That was back when bowl bids were scarce.


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1964-01-01 Cotton Bowl Texas 28 Navy 6 Cotton Bowl (Dallas, TX)
1964-01-01 Orange Bowl Nebraska 13 Auburn 7 Orange Bowl (Miami, FL)
1964-01-01 Rose Bowl Illinois 17 Washington 7 Rose Bowl (Pasadena, CA)
1964-01-01 Sugar Bowl Alabama 12 Mississippi 7 Sugar Bowl (New Orleans, LA)
1963-12-31 Sun Bowl Oregon 21 Southern Methodist 14 Sun Bowl (El Paso, TX)
1963-12-28 Gator Bowl North Carolina 35 Air Force 0 Gator Bowl (Jacksonville, FL)
1963-12-28 Tangerine Bowl Western Kentucky 27 Coast Guard 0 Tangerine Bowl (Orlando, FL)
1963-12-21 Bluebonnet Bowl Baylor 14 Louisiana State 7 Bluebonnet Bowl (Houston, TX)
1963-12-21 Liberty Bowl Mississippi State 16 North Carolina State 12 Liberty Bowl (Philadelphia, PA)



Looks like half the sec were in bowls that year. The Sugar bowl had two teams

I said IF I RECALL CORRECTLY. That was too long ago to remember the details, but sometime around that era, you had to be a conference champ to get to the biggest bowls, and there weren't many other games. Plus, look at your list. Nine bowls. The highest we were ever rated was #14, in 1963, so it was always going to be a struggle to get a bowl game.

Also, it was political, too. The best teams didn't always get invited, especially if they were independent.

The point is, you were assuming we weren't good back then, b/c we didn't go to bowl games, and that's not the case.

I always heard the Bear made up most of the bowl matchups back then. I'm also thinking Spook wasn't much of a Schmoozer either.

Ha, I don't know about that. I just remember that bowl picks were quite political back then. There weren't any contracts that sent a certain team form a certain conference to a bowl, and there were damn few bowls, compared to now, with 38 or so.

And yes, Spook tended to be an irascible old coot with everybody. But the schmoozers mostly were the presidents and ADs, not the coaches. Bryant was in a class by himself. He was more like a god, lol.
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In the 60s we were competitive with the SEC - and that scared the SEC. Despite UTK sponsoring our membership application to the SEC, it was just a political ploy to show support but we had no chance. UTK didn't want us & knew the votes would be against us. Neither UTK, Vandy or Ole Miss wanted another SEC competitor in Memphis. The closest we have come to a big time conference membership was just prior to the SWC demise. Texas didn't want us then, they don't now & instead formed the B12, leaving Rice, Houston, SMU & TCU behind (after Arkansas left for the SEC) to fend for themselves. The SEC & BE leaving the CFA & signing their own TV contracts probably played a part too, at least in motivation to form the B12.

But current day, there will likely be no "next wave of expansion". If anything, the P5 powers would probably like to find a way to eliminate more schools to increase the spoils for a smaller group - everything that is being done indicates that the P5 powers want to maximize their revenues. There is not a current scenario where Memphis or any other G5 schools would increase P5 revenues. The only possible way for Memphis to gain P5 status would be for Memphis to win & so dominate the G5 & the P5 schools that Memphis schedules as to essentially force their way into membership by public recognition of the product Memphis produces. If Memphis were ever in that position, facilities & revenue would already be a problem solved because the Memphis area would embrace a local winner of that magnitude. Until then watch the P5 continue to consolidate their control over the sports revenues & watch the G5 (& maybe even some P5 weak sisters) get less & less of the $$$ pie.
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My whole point is we can't blame RC for not being in a P5. The die was cast decades ago. There was NO way we were getting in over those 3 schools in 2003.
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(10-17-2014 09:38 AM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  What does Memphis need to do to are a step up into a P5 when things start rolling again? Where are we soft?

How about an on campus stadium? Sorry, couldn't help myself.

Seriously, what is with all these threads. I know we see the upside of being in a P5, but what is the upside for a P5 adding us?
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(10-20-2014 01:00 PM)John44932 Wrote:  
(10-17-2014 09:38 AM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  What does Memphis need to do to are a step up into a P5 when things start rolling again? Where are we soft?

How about an on campus stadium? Sorry, couldn't help myself.

Seriously, what is with all these threads. I know we see the upside of being in a P5, but what is the upside for a P5 adding us?

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(10-19-2014 09:32 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  05-ban
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(10-17-2014 02:21 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(10-17-2014 12:26 PM)3601 Wrote:  
(10-17-2014 11:48 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  They also weren't Miami State, Pittsburgh State, or Louisville State for years before changing their name...

So you think the reason we are in this situation is because we were named Memphis State? I think it's because we've sucked at football for the better part of 50 years.

Miami - private school in the best recruiting area in the country

Pitt - once a private institution became public in 1966. Considered a "research" university.

Louisville -urban public but geographically fits into several different regions

Memphis - urban public school with so many name changes that I've lost count.




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You actually fell for that geography canard?

#rube

Ever hear of Southern Miss?


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Wow. I thought you were just being argumentative. Now I think you might actually believe that fairy tale.
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(10-20-2014 07:47 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  RC didn't get here until 96. Our problems go back to the 60s maybe even further.

That's what I wrote three days ago. I'm glad that you were finally paying attention for a change.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-708474-post-112...id11258618
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(10-20-2014 01:15 PM)3601 Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 09:32 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  05-ban
(10-17-2014 10:04 PM)3601 Wrote:  
(10-17-2014 02:21 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(10-17-2014 12:26 PM)3601 Wrote:  So you think the reason we are in this situation is because we were named Memphis State? I think it's because we've sucked at football for the better part of 50 years.

Miami - private school in the best recruiting area in the country

Pitt - once a private institution became public in 1966. Considered a "research" university.

Louisville -urban public but geographically fits into several different regions

Memphis - urban public school with so many name changes that I've lost count.




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You actually fell for that geography canard?

#rube

Ever hear of Southern Miss?


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Wow. I thought you were just being argumentative. Now I think you might actually believe that fairy tale.

What scenario would have the big east taking us over Louisville and Cincy? I'll hang up and listen
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(10-20-2014 01:28 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 01:15 PM)3601 Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 09:32 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  05-ban
(10-17-2014 10:04 PM)3601 Wrote:  
(10-17-2014 02:21 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Miami - private school in the best recruiting area in the country

Pitt - once a private institution became public in 1966. Considered a "research" university.

Louisville -urban public but geographically fits into several different regions

Memphis - urban public school with so many name changes that I've lost count.




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You actually fell for that geography canard?

#rube

Ever hear of Southern Miss?


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Wow. I thought you were just being argumentative. Now I think you might actually believe that fairy tale.

What scenario would have the big east taking us over Louisville and Cincy? I'll hang up and listen

It ain't difficult. It is actually extremely simple. In 2003 the Big East's #1 priority was making football as respectable as possible in an attempt to maintain their automatic BCS bid.

Louisville was a slam dunk because they had an extremely solid football program in 2003. They were head and shoulders above the rest of the expansion targets because their football program was head and shoulders above the rest of the expansion targets. They would not have been a slam dunk if they didn't have a solid football program at the time.

In 2003 if Louisville hadn't been to a bowl game in 30 years and Memphis was coming off of 5 straight bowl appearances then Memphis would have been the slam dunk instead of Louisville.
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