(10-11-2014 11:39 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  They won't. The committee decides final rankings, and they won't give it to Marshall with that high school schedule. If they do, just wait and see what schedules look like going forward.

Realize that the committee isn't going to risk their credibility and start a controversy on something as meaningless as which G5 champ gets the access bowl bid.

If Marshall is rated clearly ahead of any other G5 champ in the coaches (and AP) poll, they will get the bid.

SOS will factor in only if it's close.

(10-12-2014 01:03 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(10-11-2014 11:39 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  They won't. The committee decides final rankings, and they won't give it to Marshall with that high school schedule. If they do, just wait and see what schedules look like going forward.

Realize that the committee isn't going to risk their credibility and start a controversy on something as meaningless as which G5 champ gets the access bowl bid.

If Marshall is rated clearly ahead of any other G5 champ in the coaches (and AP) poll, they will get the bid.

SOS will factor in only if it's close.

Perhaps you missed the committee's announcement several weeks ago where they announced that SOS would be a factor, and not only when it's close.

CFP FAQs

I think an unbeaten Marshall should get in over any 1-loss AAC team. They might not be better than them, but the only team which should ever end the season unbeaten is the national champion. They can't help their conference anymore than we can, and if we thought it was unfair for them to do it to us last season prior to the BCS win, we can't do the same to Marshall.

If we win out it's ours it goes to the HIGHEST RANKED TEAM. I don't see how Marshall passes us if we win out. Not for nothing I think Marshall loses at UAB in November.

(10-12-2014 01:16 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  I think an unbeaten Marshall should get in over any 1-loss AAC team. They might not be better than them, but the only team which should ever end the season unbeaten is the national champion. They can't help their conference anymore than we can, and if we thought it was unfair for them to do it to us last season prior to the BCS win, we can't do the same to Marshall.

Their conference isn't the problem if their non conference schedule. And why the hell would you hope anyone besides a team from the American gets the spot???

(10-12-2014 01:11 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 01:03 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(10-11-2014 11:39 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  They won't. The committee decides final rankings, and they won't give it to Marshall with that high school schedule. If they do, just wait and see what schedules look like going forward.

Realize that the committee isn't going to risk their credibility and start a controversy on something as meaningless as which G5 champ gets the access bowl bid.

If Marshall is rated clearly ahead of any other G5 champ in the coaches (and AP) poll, they will get the bid.

SOS will factor in only if it's close.

Perhaps you missed the committee's announcement several weeks ago where they announced that SOS would be a factor, and not only when it's close.

CFP FAQs

LOL. You read my literally when I was speaking figuratively. But I guess we'll find out on October 28 what the committee thinks of Marshall.

BTW, the committee will also look at common foes when ranking teams.

Marshall beat Miami-O by 15
Cincy only beat Miami-O by 7

Marshall beat Akron by 31
Akron beat Pitt
Penn St only beat Akron by 18

Marshall beat Old Dominion by 42
NC St only beat Old Dominion by 12

Marshall beat MTSU by 25
Memphis only beat MTSU by 19
Minnestoa only beat MTSU by 11

See a common theme?

(10-12-2014 01:33 AM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 01:16 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  I think an unbeaten Marshall should get in over any 1-loss AAC team. They might not be better than them, but the only team which should ever end the season unbeaten is the national champion. They can't help their conference anymore than we can, and if we thought it was unfair for them to do it to us last season prior to the BCS win, we can't do the same to Marshall.

Their conference isn't the problem if their non conference schedule. And why the hell would you hope anyone besides a team from the American gets the spot???

Because I'm consistent enough to know that if that were UCF still stuck in CUSA, and winning every game we played, I'd think we deserved a shot. I won't change my opinion now that we're relatively better off. There's a lot of football left to be played though, and as USF and SMU have shown against ECU, relatively 'poor' teams can still pose problems to good teams.

(10-12-2014 01:16 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  I think an unbeaten Marshall should get in over any 1-loss AAC team. They might not be better than them, but the only team which should ever end the season unbeaten is the national champion. They can't help their conference anymore than we can, and if we thought it was unfair for them to do it to us last season prior to the BCS win, we can't do the same to Marshall.

The conference isn't Marshall's SOS schedule issue, it was their OOC schedule. ECU's OOC schedule was simply better and stronger than Marshall and that is why ECU is ranked and Marshall isn't although that will probably change tomorrow when the new polls come out.

Realtimerpi has ECUs schedule ranked #185. ECU's FBS opponents are 24-38 overall. Marshall's SOS is ranked #180. Marshall's FBS opponents are currently 31-38. ECU's conference opponents still have @Army and @PSU. Marshall's has BYU, Army, @Arkansas, @Vandy

(10-12-2014 02:15 AM)Shrack Wrote:  Realtimerpi has ECUs schedule ranked #185. ECU's FBS opponents are 24-38 overall. Marshall's SOS is ranked #180. Marshall's FBS opponents are currently 31-38. ECU's conference opponents still have @Army and @PSU. Marshall's has BYU, Army, @Arkansas, @Vandy

Realtime RPI is a basketball site.

Sagarin rates ECU's schedule 101 and Marshall 165, worth about 10 points per game. That gap will only widen as we get deeper into conference play.

ECU voluntarily played 3 Power 5 schools out of conference, and beat two of them. Marshall voluntarily scheduled crap.

People around here are the ones always quoting Realtimerpi, figured I'd join the club . Sagarin hasn't calculated today either. The gap will actually shorten most likely, ECU has all 5 of the worst AAC teams on its schedule. Sagarin shows #156 Tulsa, #153 SMU, #148 Uconn, #140 Tulane, #121 USF

(10-12-2014 02:20 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 02:15 AM)Shrack Wrote:  Realtimerpi has ECUs schedule ranked #185. ECU's FBS opponents are 24-38 overall. Marshall's SOS is ranked #180. Marshall's FBS opponents are currently 31-38. ECU's conference opponents still have @Army and @PSU. Marshall's has BYU, Army, @Arkansas, @Vandy

Realtime RPI is a basketball site.

Realtime RPI also rates football which has been used many times by posters on this board to distinguish the AAC/CUSA SOS. Personally, I find using the RPI for football about as useless as the Sagarin.

That said, it doesn't take a genius to figure out ECU's SOS should be better than Marshall.

Yeah, it is obvious ECUs schedule is better, but I just wanted to quote everyone's favorite site .

It's a two horse race with ECU in the lead. Should be fun.

(10-12-2014 01:59 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 01:16 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  I think an unbeaten Marshall should get in over any 1-loss AAC team. They might not be better than them, but the only team which should ever end the season unbeaten is the national champion. They can't help their conference anymore than we can, and if we thought it was unfair for them to do it to us last season prior to the BCS win, we can't do the same to Marshall.

The conference isn't Marshall's SOS schedule issue, it was their OOC schedule. ECU's OOC schedule was simply better and stronger than Marshall and that is why ECU is ranked and Marshall isn't although that will probably change tomorrow when the new polls come out.

another UAB fan dickriding marshall. just sad

(10-11-2014 11:54 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  ECU also gets to play a potentially 9-2 UCF at the end of the season

Don't sleep on Temple. If they win out (highly doubtful but if they do) they control their own destiny. Winning out means wins over ECU, Pen State, and UCF. Those wins, together with one loss, have them jumping Marshall.

Here's the thing. For all we all know it could be a 1 loss East Carolina (for example) against an undefeated Marshall in the Peach Bowl. The bowl itself pits At Large versus At Large in non-playoff years. The noncontract conferences are guaranteed to have at least the highest rated conference champion in an access bowl. I've seen nothing that suggests a second noncontract team "is not allowed" to make an access bowl or the playoff just that at least that the highest rated noncontract team is "guaranteed" access.

So picture this.

Let's say ECU wins out and somehow gets up inside the Top 15, like #12, Marshall wins out to include the CUSA championship game and ends up 13-0 and ranked #13 in the committee poll. Is it not possible (unlikely or not) that a Peach Bowl matchup could be.........


#12 East Carolina 11-1 versus #13 Marshall 13-0

where the committee wants to see those teams settle it on the field.

(10-12-2014 01:59 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  The conference isn't Marshall's SOS schedule issue, it was their OOC schedule. ECU's OOC schedule was simply better and stronger than Marshall and that is why ECU is ranked and Marshall isn't although that will probably change tomorrow when the new polls come out.

Marshall gets jumped by LSU and Southern Cal (maybe Kentucky and Duke as well), so I doubt they get placed into the top 25 in the AP poll.

(10-12-2014 06:41 AM)sfink16 Wrote:  Marshall gets jumped by LSU and Southern Cal (maybe Kentucky and Duke as well), so I doubt they get placed into the top 25 in the AP poll.

Signature bet?

(10-12-2014 02:20 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 02:15 AM)Shrack Wrote:  Realtimerpi has ECUs schedule ranked #185. ECU's FBS opponents are 24-38 overall. Marshall's SOS is ranked #180. Marshall's FBS opponents are currently 31-38. ECU's conference opponents still have @Army and @PSU. Marshall's has BYU, Army, @Arkansas, @Vandy

Realtime RPI is a basketball site.

Sagarin rates ECU's schedule 101 and Marshall 165, worth about 10 points per game. That gap will only widen as we get deeper into conference play.

ECU voluntarily played 3 Power 5 schools out of conference, and beat two of them. Marshall voluntarily scheduled crap.

Warren Nolan is a basketball site and pretty much useless discussing basketball. Realtime RPI is better than that stupid Teamrankings site and Conferencerankings site that CUSA fans swear by.