On the other board it's very contentious about having a NYE Marathon. I personally think it's a joke having the Marathon on NYE- especially going forward with 8/12 years being the semi-finals and 2 being NFL. What do folks here think about it?

Most not from NYC could really care!

The concept of a NYE showcase doesn't bother me. Marquette will never host because the Bradley Center is occupied every NYE, but if does well for the other schools, that's great. Starting that early gets the 18 game conference season in before March Madness. It gives the conference a showcase, even if it is on FS1. It will probably go away if/when the group gets to 12 teams and not everyone can participate, but I enjoyed it last season. Like FS1, I think it needs a couple of more seasons to see if it sticks or stinks.

(09-30-2014 02:02 PM)MUAvalanche Wrote:  The concept of a NYE showcase doesn't bother me. Marquette will never host because the Bradley Center is occupied every NYE, but if does well for the other schools, that's great. Starting that early gets the 18 game conference season in before March Madness. It gives the conference a showcase, even if it is on FS1. It will probably go away if/when the group gets to 12 teams and not everyone can participate, but I enjoyed it last season. Like FS1, I think it needs a couple of more seasons to see if it sticks or stinks.

I have no problem with the marathon- just I think it should be on the 30th. The 31st is just going to become almost like the NFC/AFC championship Sunday. That's 8/12 years. Then in 2 of the other years, NYE is on a Sunday, that's NFL(after the 2017 and 2023 football years). So of the 12 years, only this year and after 2020 is NYE not going up against the football semifinals or the NFL. I just think it's completely stupid to put the marathon up against the football semifinals or the NFL. You aren't going to get any casual fans at all. They'll either be watching football or celebrating NYE. It should be like you said a showcase.

(09-30-2014 02:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I have no problem with the marathon- just I think it should be on the 30th. The 31st is just going to become almost like the NFC/AFC championship Sunday. That's 8/12 years. Then in 2 of the other years, NYE is on a Sunday, that's NFL(after the 2017 and 2023 football years). So of the 12 years, only this year and after 2020 is NYE not going up against the football semifinals or the NFL. I just think it's completely stupid to put the marathon up against the football semifinals or the NFL. You aren't going to get any casual fans at all. They'll either be watching football or celebrating NYE. It should be like you said a showcase.

The 30th is a business day most years, so the casual fan would miss most of the first 3 games of the marathon. I know I would. Many places are off or half-day for NYE, so there is a chance to see it. If you go on a weekend past NYE, you have other college BB and NFL playoffs. What about the Saturday before NYE in years without a Christmas/Christmas eve conflict? Opposite lousy bowl matchups, nonconference college BB and maybe an NFL game?

(10-01-2014 09:13 AM)MUAvalanche Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 02:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I have no problem with the marathon- just I think it should be on the 30th. The 31st is just going to become almost like the NFC/AFC championship Sunday. That's 8/12 years. Then in 2 of the other years, NYE is on a Sunday, that's NFL(after the 2017 and 2023 football years). So of the 12 years, only this year and after 2020 is NYE not going up against the football semifinals or the NFL. I just think it's completely stupid to put the marathon up against the football semifinals or the NFL. You aren't going to get any casual fans at all. They'll either be watching football or celebrating NYE. It should be like you said a showcase.

The 30th is a business day most years, so the casual fan would miss most of the first 3 games of the marathon. I know I would. Many places are off or half-day for NYE, so there is a chance to see it. If you go on a weekend past NYE, you have other college BB and NFL playoffs. What about the Saturday before NYE in years without a Christmas/Christmas eve conflict? Opposite lousy bowl matchups, nonconference college BB and maybe an NFL game?

That would work- except that's still a pretty big day for OOC games. Also, like in this year, DePaul is playing in the Hawaii tournament ending on the 25th, so getting home in 1 day and playing the next is pretty problematic.

Most casual fans would miss at most 2 games on the 30th- at least on the east coast. If you are home at 5:30, it's mid 1st half of the 3rd game. You'd still have the prime time doubleheader which Fox could put in some really good games. Heck just the dh that fox has this year would look real good on the 30th- PC/Creighton and Xavier/Georgetown. With competition from the Belk and San Francisco Bowls instead of Fiesta and Orange Bowls.

(10-01-2014 09:40 AM)stever20 Wrote:  That would work- except that's still a pretty big day for OOC games. Also, like in this year, DePaul is playing in the Hawaii tournament ending on the 25th, so getting home in 1 day and playing the next is pretty problematic.

Most casual fans would miss at most 2 games on the 30th- at least on the east coast. If you are home at 5:30, it's mid 1st half of the 3rd game. You'd still have the prime time doubleheader which Fox could put in some really good games. Heck just the dh that fox has this year would look real good on the 30th- PC/Creighton and Xavier/Georgetown. With competition from the Belk and San Francisco Bowls instead of Fiesta and Orange Bowls.

Missing 3 games on the 30th pretty much means that it wouldn't be a showcase. A double/triple header on the 30th and 31st? A pair of triple headers on the 30th and 31st if they go to 12 teams?

The thing is, having it on the 31st- still a lot of folks have to work that day as well. So it's not a showcase on the 31st either(and defintiely not with the CFP).

If you were going to move to double/triple headers- I would do it 29th/30th. This year on the 29th- you have Liberty/Russell Athletic/Texas Bowls. Hardly murderer's row there.

I just don't think folks are all that excited about having to spend NYE with their teams. I think you are going to see more and more pushback on this.

I do think the fact that they haven't said this is an annual marathon is huge. My hunch is this year is the last one.

well sounds like the NYE Marathon might not happen this year.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/320352651.html

•Marquette expects to open the Big East season at home, but it might not be as part of a New Year's Eve marathon as the conference has done each of the past two years. The Golden Eagles anticipate their conference opener will be on Dec. 30, not Dec. 31. That change could be due to the College Football Playoff, which will hold its semifinals and draw a lot of television viewership on Dec. 31.

Pretty much a no brainer to me. Just don't think it should be a surprise to anyone at all.

I loved the concept for the NYE Big East marathon (went to MU/DePaul last year), and watched all the games the past two years. However, going head-to-head against the CFP is a losing battle. The league's goal is to continue to gain viewers and national attention - which won't happen going against one of the biggest sporting events of the year over the next several years.

Keep the format, but move it to 12/30 (or the available preceding Saturday that's not 12/31).

(08-05-2015 08:49 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  I loved the concept for the NYE Big East marathon (went to MU/DePaul last year), and watched all the games the past two years. However, going head-to-head against the CFP is a losing battle. The league's goal is to continue to gain viewers and national attention - which won't happen going against one of the biggest sporting events of the year over the next several years.

Keep the format, but move it to 12/30 (or the available preceding Saturday that's not 12/31).

I'd actually move it this year to Sat 1/2 given that it's a Saturday. Put 2 games on Big Fox even .

It's something where if the old BCS system had remained, with the biggest games after NYD- it would have been a no brainer. But, the CFP did change the equation, and like it or not, we have to adjust.

(08-05-2015 09:16 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(08-05-2015 08:49 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  I loved the concept for the NYE Big East marathon (went to MU/DePaul last year), and watched all the games the past two years. However, going head-to-head against the CFP is a losing battle. The league's goal is to continue to gain viewers and national attention - which won't happen going against one of the biggest sporting events of the year over the next several years.

Keep the format, but move it to 12/30 (or the available preceding Saturday that's not 12/31).

I'd actually move it this year to Sat 1/2 given that it's a Saturday. Put 2 games on Big Fox even .

It's something where if the old BCS system had remained, with the biggest games after NYD- it would have been a no brainer. But, the CFP did change the equation, and like it or not, we have to adjust.

Any Saturday NFL that day to compete with? If not, that would work fine.

(08-05-2015 09:18 AM)MUAvalanche Wrote:  

(08-05-2015 09:16 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(08-05-2015 08:49 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  I loved the concept for the NYE Big East marathon (went to MU/DePaul last year), and watched all the games the past two years. However, going head-to-head against the CFP is a losing battle. The league's goal is to continue to gain viewers and national attention - which won't happen going against one of the biggest sporting events of the year over the next several years.

Keep the format, but move it to 12/30 (or the available preceding Saturday that's not 12/31).

I'd actually move it this year to Sat 1/2 given that it's a Saturday. Put 2 games on Big Fox even .

It's something where if the old BCS system had remained, with the biggest games after NYD- it would have been a no brainer. But, the CFP did change the equation, and like it or not, we have to adjust.

Any Saturday NFL that day to compete with? If not, that would work fine.

nope. It's the last week of the season so all games that weekend are on Sunday.

Going to what GoldenWarrior11 said, it can't be the preceding Saturday as that weekend has NFL games some of the time.

Pretty exciting that the matchups/dates should be announced soon. After losing the past two openers to Creighton and DePaul, hopefully we can rebound and actually win our Big East opener.

(08-05-2015 10:41 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Pretty exciting that the matchups/dates should be announced soon. After losing the past two openers to Creighton and DePaul, hopefully we can rebound and actually win our Big East opener.

Yeah. schedule as a whole should be released within 5 weeks or so.

Hopefully get a few more CBS games in addition to the Big Fox games. Tough to believe the season is only 14 weeks away right now.

It'll be interesting to see for Marquette if they do the schedule like what Seton Hall had last year- kind of backloaded. Seton Hall's last 7 games were- Georgetown, PC, Nova, St Johns, Creighton, PC, and Georgetown. Thinking the young players have a chance to gel before the real tough stretch of the season.

one thing to kind of think about. If there was going to be a marathon- I think when not only this guy from Marquette but McNamara from Providence paper said about there not being a marathon- there would have been some official push back saying that yes there in fact would be a NYE Marathon. but it's been crickets.

Yes, a change in format is most certainly coming. They won't compete against the CFP on 12/31 (Thursday) or other bowl games on 1/1 (Friday). I'm thinking that 12/30 (Wednesday) or 1/2 (Saturday) will be the day of the marathon.

so sounds like the Marathon will be on the 2nd- and it won't even be the 1st games. It's necessary with the CFP.