(09-23-2014 11:07 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 10:29 AM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 09:59 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  EKU and Missouri state both making significant progress.

If I'm Idaho...that's probably not the news I want to hear with league renewal coming up for debate in two years.

Can Idaho seriously be voted out? Has a team ever been voted out of a conference before?

Since Idaho is an associate member, they are renewed every two years, and at any point the league can non renew them for any reason. See UMass and the MAC. At some point the league said, all sports or nothing and sent the Minutemen out the door.

That's different from actually voting a league member out...which creates bad blood. Temple got expelled from the Big East quite a while back. There was talk at one point that the Big 10 might expel Penn State after the Sandusky scandal.

In fact, in recent years this happened in the Sun Belt when the conference kicked Denver out.

(09-23-2014 06:45 PM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 05:33 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 04:56 PM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  Man, the Southern Conference really stinks since App St. and we left. I love when they said we'd never be missed. They are now swimming in a sea of mediocrity.

And yet not long ago it was the #1 conference in FCS.

To the Citadel and Chattanooga crowd, I say it couldn't happen to a better crowd. I do hate to see Furman and Wofford go down the tubes with them. I might want to throw in Western Carolina with them as I've always felt sorry for them. By the way, what's the deal with Wofford? They've really done nothing since we left.

SoCon should really absorb the good parts of the Big South and move on with life. No reason Coastal Carolina and Liberty couldn't replace GaSouth and App over there.

(09-23-2014 09:13 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 06:45 PM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 05:33 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 04:56 PM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  Man, the Southern Conference really stinks since App St. and we left. I love when they said we'd never be missed. They are now swimming in a sea of mediocrity.

And yet not long ago it was the #1 conference in FCS.

To the Citadel and Chattanooga crowd, I say it couldn't happen to a better crowd. I do hate to see Furman and Wofford go down the tubes with them. I might want to throw in Western Carolina with them as I've always felt sorry for them. By the way, what's the deal with Wofford? They've really done nothing since we left.

SoCon should really absorb the good parts of the Big South and move on with life. No reason Coastal Carolina and Liberty couldn't replace GaSouth and App over there.

They may be able to replace us but they couldn't match us.

(09-23-2014 07:32 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 11:07 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 10:29 AM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 09:59 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  EKU and Missouri state both making significant progress.

If I'm Idaho...that's probably not the news I want to hear with league renewal coming up for debate in two years.

Can Idaho seriously be voted out? Has a team ever been voted out of a conference before?

Since Idaho is an associate member, they are renewed every two years, and at any point the league can non renew them for any reason. See UMass and the MAC. At some point the league said, all sports or nothing and sent the Minutemen out the door.

That's different from actually voting a league member out...which creates bad blood. Temple got expelled from the Big East quite a while back. There was talk at one point that the Big 10 might expel Penn State after the Sandusky scandal.

In fact, in recent years this happened in the Sun Belt when the conference kicked Denver out.

Denver was not kicked out - they chose to go to the WAC rather than meet the Sun Belt's sport sponsorship requirement:

http://arkansasstate.scout.com/story/138...-standards

You kind of know the schools and administrators of those schools.
That is why the SoCon wouldn't do that.

(09-23-2014 10:16 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  You kind of know the schools and administrators of those schools.
That is why the SoCon wouldn't do that.

Good point.

Jax st. Ranked #8
picked to win OVC
made it to the quarterfinals last year
averages 18,000 in attendance ( actual attendance )
Already has one of the top stadiums in the fcs

(09-24-2014 06:23 AM)cleburneslim Wrote:  Jax st. Ranked #8
picked to win OVC
made it to the quarterfinals last year
averages 18,000 in attendance ( actual attendance )
Already has one of the top stadiums in the fcs

Does not have the votes.

(09-23-2014 10:15 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 07:32 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 11:07 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 10:29 AM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 09:59 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  EKU and Missouri state both making significant progress.

If I'm Idaho...that's probably not the news I want to hear with league renewal coming up for debate in two years.

Can Idaho seriously be voted out? Has a team ever been voted out of a conference before?

Since Idaho is an associate member, they are renewed every two years, and at any point the league can non renew them for any reason. See UMass and the MAC. At some point the league said, all sports or nothing and sent the Minutemen out the door.

That's different from actually voting a league member out...which creates bad blood. Temple got expelled from the Big East quite a while back. There was talk at one point that the Big 10 might expel Penn State after the Sandusky scandal.

In fact, in recent years this happened in the Sun Belt when the conference kicked Denver out.

Denver was not kicked out - they chose to go to the WAC rather than meet the Sun Belt's sport sponsorship requirement:

http://arkansasstate.scout.com/story/138...-standards

Wasn't Texas Pan American kicked out a few years ago?

(09-23-2014 10:15 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 07:32 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 11:07 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 10:29 AM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 09:59 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  EKU and Missouri state both making significant progress.

If I'm Idaho...that's probably not the news I want to hear with league renewal coming up for debate in two years.

Can Idaho seriously be voted out? Has a team ever been voted out of a conference before?

Since Idaho is an associate member, they are renewed every two years, and at any point the league can non renew them for any reason. See UMass and the MAC. At some point the league said, all sports or nothing and sent the Minutemen out the door.

That's different from actually voting a league member out...which creates bad blood. Temple got expelled from the Big East quite a while back. There was talk at one point that the Big 10 might expel Penn State after the Sandusky scandal.

In fact, in recent years this happened in the Sun Belt when the conference kicked Denver out.

Denver was not kicked out - they chose to go to the WAC rather than meet the Sun Belt's sport sponsorship requirement:

http://arkansasstate.scout.com/story/138...-standards

A Sport Sponsorship requirement that the league put into play with the whole intention of forcing Denver out.

The SBC Knew very well that Denver wouldn't up their sport sponsorships, so they used this as a way to dump them without having to go the full process of expelling them.

Keep in mind, SBC rules are very selectively enforced. UALR breaks like half of the membership requirements yearly, but the league has never attempted to force the Trojans out, and likely never will unless AState was to leave the league.

Why is that? Why is UALR allowed to break the rules?

It doesn't bother me, just wondering why (in this example) UALR got a pass, but Denver did not. A location thing?

(09-24-2014 06:23 AM)cleburneslim Wrote:  Jax st. Ranked #8
picked to win OVC
made it to the quarterfinals last year
averages 18,000 in attendance ( actual attendance )
Already has one of the top stadiums in the fcs

yep. Everything I've read makes me assume troy would NEVER support Jacksonville state to join the belt.

Fear and pettiness makes for a winning tradition? Is this what the sbc offers?

Hearing the administration and athletic department are working in high gear with a local firm and Rosser Architects (same group who did the work on Paulson Stadium) on east side stadium renovation. Total cost between $15 and 20 million. Capacity will stay close to 22,000, but will include suites, press area, football facility.

Also moving ahead with close to $5 million in baseball and softball improvements. This president is serious about transforming Eastern. All the word off of campus is about making big plans and delivering.

Know we're a few years behind, but exciting to see an aggressive vision, and more importantly, steps to deliver.

(09-24-2014 08:45 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  Why is that? Why is UALR allowed to break the rules?

It doesn't bother me, just wondering why (in this example) UALR got a pass, but Denver did not. A location thing?

Been in the league for too long.

(09-24-2014 06:23 AM)cleburneslim Wrote:  Jax st. Ranked #8
picked to win OVC
made it to the quarterfinals last year
averages 18,000 in attendance ( actual attendance )
Already has one of the top stadiums in the fcs

I do like that pressbox though...

(09-25-2014 07:27 AM)cleburneslim Wrote:  Fear and pettiness makes for a winning tradition? Is this what the sbc offers?

YES! Yes it does. . . . . . AND welcome to the Belt

On a serious note, if we could add E. Kentuk, Mizz St, and NMSU for all sports,that might not be too bad . . .

(09-25-2014 07:27 AM)cleburneslim Wrote:  Fear and pettiness makes for a winning tradition? Is this what the sbc offers?

What "fear" does jax st strike...? Speaking of petty...why is it that jax st hasn't played TROY since we moved up? Answer...it ain't us that's the problem.

Huge night for the Colonels. Traveled to Coral Gables, FL and blew out the #18 ranked team in the country by 28. It's all about the EKU!

Neubauer has built a program that will compete immediately in the SBC.

Go Colonels!